Rockerbraves Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 (edited) It's still early but here are Rivals.com 2007 Top Ten Rankings. Looks like Texas is kicking some butt down in Austin. Commits Commits Commits Avg Stars Points 1 Texas 23 4 13 5 3.78 2,717 2 LSU 19 0 12 6 3.58 1,797 3 Georgia 24 0 10 14 3.42 1,748 4 Florida 20 1 8 10 3.45 1,730 5 Tennessee 22 2 5 13 3.32 1,728 6 Southern Cal 11 3 7 1 4.18 1,593 7 Notre Dame 14 1 9 4 3.79 1,544 8 Michigan 19 1 6 10 3.32 1,514 9 Auburn 20 0 7 11 3.25 1,479 10 Nebraska 20 0 6 12 3.20 1,326 Edited December 17, 2006 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akfatha Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) as usual for the Horns. seems Vince Young in his Sr. year was the one player Mack got that put him from just great recruiting but not a big game coach, to winning the big game. I'll be curious to see in the next few years when McCoy is older, etc, whether or not it was VY or whether or not Mack got over the hump himself. 5 SEC teams =O mr. february ring a bell? i like mack, i just am curious if he can do it w/o someone like VY. Edited December 18, 2006 by Akfatha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Vince Young won despite having Mack as his coach, not because of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I mean really, the amount of nfl talent that has come from texas, and mack only has 1 conference championship on his resume speaks volumes. Im sure he's a very nice guy, and has a certain way about him that kids are drawn too, but 1 conference championship? I'm not even talking national titles here, im saying conference championships. On the opposite end of that, you have Bob Stoops, who has owned Mack Brown overall in the rivalry, doens't have the luxury of all the nfl talent (although Oklahoma has had its share, but not nearly as many as Texas) and continues to win. Again, speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbmcdonald Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I mean really, the amount of nfl talent that has come from texas, and mack only has 1 conference championship on his resume speaks volumes. Im sure he's a very nice guy, and has a certain way about him that kids are drawn too, but 1 conference championship? I'm not even talking national titles here, im saying conference championships. On the opposite end of that, you have Bob Stoops, who has owned Mack Brown overall in the rivalry, doens't have the luxury of all the nfl talent (although Oklahoma has had its share, but not nearly as many as Texas) and continues to win. Again, speaks volumes. There are currently 32 former OU players on NFL rosters, and 30 former Texas players on NFL rosters. Stoops is 5-3 vs Mack, a winning % of 62.5%, if that is your definition of owning, then I guess there are a whole sh*t load of teams that "own" Iowa. Most people would agree that Stoops is a better game day coach than Brown, but you really should make some effort to keep just a tad of reality on your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 It's still early but here are Rivals.com 2007 Top Ten Rankings. Looks like Texas is kicking some butt down in Austin. Commits Commits Commits Avg Stars Points 1 Texas 23 4 13 5 3.78 2,717 2 LSU 19 0 12 6 3.58 1,797 3 Georgia 24 0 10 14 3.42 1,748 4 Florida 20 1 8 10 3.45 1,730 5 Tennessee 22 2 5 13 3.32 1,728 6 Southern Cal 11 3 7 1 4.18 1,593 7 Notre Dame 14 1 9 4 3.79 1,544 8 Michigan 19 1 6 10 3.32 1,514 9 Auburn 20 0 7 11 3.25 1,479 10 Nebraska 20 0 6 12 3.20 1,326 A few things that stand out. Nice to see my Vols ranked 5th in the country but 4th in the SEC! I'd better get used to 9-3. While it doesn't appear that USC has the quantity of recruits at this point, they sure make up for it by having far and away the highest avg stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) There are currently 32 former OU players on NFL rosters, and 30 former Texas players on NFL rosters. Stoops is 5-3 vs Mack, a winning % of 62.5%, if that is your definition of owning, then I guess there are a whole sh*t load of teams that "own" Iowa. Most people would agree that Stoops is a better game day coach than Brown, but you really should make some effort to keep just a tad of reality on your posts. Few outside of Texas and OU remember Mack won the 1st game of the rivalry, in Stoops first year. The fact Texas was ranked higher than OU, or favored, in 4 of the 5 OU wins, and a significant favorite in the 3 loses. Id say that is owning Mack. And if you were on this side of the argument, you would say the same thing. For Derrick Johnson, Cedric Benson and Chris Simms to go o-fer Oklahoma was simply terrible coaching, and not just gameday, but player development as well. Johnson was a freak his freshman year, as was Roy Williams. Throw in a complete stud RB like Cedric Benson as a freshman, and other than grow and get reps did any of them actually improve from where they started. Look at OU's S Roy Williams, he was an afterthought at OU, same with Jamal Brown who was a DT, switched to OL. Clayton was not one of the most heralded recruits, and all 3 became 1st roundd picks. QB Jason white blew out 2 knees and still won the heisman and beat Texas every year. The raw talent and where they finished was amazing when you look at the two programs. Think if Stoops coached at Texas, or got the consistent recruits mack gets, to start with. No one would be talking about Pete Carroll as the best coach in college football, that much is for sure. What brian should have said is, Texas year in, year out has more decorated recruiting classes than OU, but OU players actuallyimprove while being in the program. Which is why there are more Sooners in the NFL than Longhorns. Edited December 18, 2006 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 as usual for the Horns. seems Vince Young in his Sr. year was the one player Mack got that put him from just great recruiting but not a big game coach, to winning the big game. I'll be curious to see in the next few years when McCoy is older, etc, whether or not it was VY or whether or not Mack got over the hump himself. 5 SEC teams =O mr. february ring a bell? i like mack, i just am curious if he can do it w/o someone like VY. Vince Young won despite having Mack as his coach, not because of him. Mack reminds me a lot of Jimmy Johnson when he was coaching Dallas. He has a great eye for tallent, but not that great of a coach. They both relyed heavily on thier assistants on game day. I wouldn't say that VY won despite Mack, but it could be said that VY won despite Greg Davis. I don't know if Greg Davis has some incriminating pictures of Mack or what, but he seems to have stuck around a lot longer than he should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) A few things that stand out. Nice to see my Vols ranked 5th in the country but 4th in the SEC! I'd better get used to 9-3. While it doesn't appear that USC has the quantity of recruits at this point, they sure make up for it by having far and away the highest avg stars. Yep, as a USC fan I take some solace in those average stars. I watched the HS football state championships this weekend, and I think I saw our next QB - Aaron Corp. (I don't mean I'm unsure of seeing him - it was him. I mean I think he can be a starter within 1-2 years.) Kid looked great running and throwing, and will give Sanchez some tough competition. Looks like the SEC will be really tough in the next few years, although that's nothing new..... Edited December 18, 2006 by Coffeeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 mr. february ring a bell? i like mack, i just am curious if he can do it w/o someone like VY. Not a Mack apologist, but these days any coach either needs a guy like that, several players nearly that good, a pretty freaky stretch of luck, or some combination of those things to win the NC. Simple fact is, he did it. His team went out and beat an insanely talented USC team for the title and that should count for something to any reasonable person. If he was the complete moron that some paint him out to be, that couldn't have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 A few things that stand out. Nice to see my Vols ranked 5th in the country but 4th in the SEC! I'd better get used to 9-3. While it doesn't appear that USC has the quantity of recruits at this point, they sure make up for it by having far and away the highest avg stars. With the exception of Texas based off the points awarded each team in the ranking, you can pretty much group the rest of the top ten together. Longhorns recruiting class though is apparently heads and tails above the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 It's still early but here are Rivals.com 2007 Top Ten Rankings. Looks like Texas is kicking some butt down in Austin. Commits Commits Commits Avg Stars Points 1 Texas 23 4 13 5 3.78 2,717 2 LSU 19 0 12 6 3.58 1,797 3 Georgia 24 0 10 14 3.42 1,748 4 Florida 20 1 8 10 3.45 1,730 5 Tennessee 22 2 5 13 3.32 1,728 6 Southern Cal 11 3 7 1 4.18 1,593 7 Notre Dame 14 1 9 4 3.79 1,544 8 Michigan 19 1 6 10 3.32 1,514 9 Auburn 20 0 7 11 3.25 1,479 10 Nebraska 20 0 6 12 3.20 1,326 Where's Da Ohio State University? 11th? Go Blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 Where's Da Ohio State University? 11th? Go Blue. Thought you might like to know where your competition ranks early on. 19 Ohio State 12 0 8 4 3.67 1,103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 (edited) Glad to see my UW Huskies back in the Top-25 again. Bring em' back Tyrone!! Edited December 18, 2006 by theprofessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 The U - 41st Not surprising given the coaching turnover, but longing for the days of Butch Davis where they were always top 5. Maybe Shannon can close strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Not a Mack apologist, but these days any coach either needs a guy like that, several players nearly that good, a pretty freaky stretch of luck, or some combination of those things to win the NC. Simple fact is, he did it. His team went out and beat an insanely talented USC team for the title and that should count for something to any reasonable person. If he was the complete moron that some paint him out to be, that couldn't have happened. 12-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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