DMD Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Vick-Schaub set scrapped from playbook By D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Flowery Branch —The Falcons' double quarterback set is going back to mothballs. Don't expect to see quarterbacks Michael Vick and Matt Schaub on the field at the same time anytime soon, coach Jim Mora said Monday . "We basically did that because we weren't sure how Jerious [Norwood] and Warrick [Dunn] were going to be," Mora said. Schaub played quarterback, and Vick moved to tailback for four plays. On one play, Schaub ended up flanked out as a receiver with Vick at quarterback. The scheme wasn't that successful. The highlight came when the Falcons got a first down after Schaub completed a pass to Michael Jenkins for 10 yards in the first quarter. "We had that swing pass, that was designed to go to Mike," Mora said. "They actually covered Mike Vick with two guys, the outside linebacker peeled off to cover him, and the inside linebacker covered him. That left a throwing lane for [the pass to] Jenkins." After running the formation three times, the Falcons found out they were running afoul of the league's communication rules. "The official came over to me and said there was a rule, that I wasn't aware of and I asked Rich [McKay] about it during the game and he wasn't aware of it, that you couldn't have two quarterbacks in the game with the quarterback-to-coach [wireless] communication," Mora said. So before running the formation for a fourth time, the Falcons took the communication system out of D.J. Shockley's helmet and, luckily, the helmet fit Schaub. "I wasn't sure if it would fit because Schaubie's got a pretty big head," Mora said. Mora had to alert the officials of the helmet switch. "I didn't want them to throw and flag and then have to explain it afterward," Mora said. Would have been great to seen them have a wildly successful play get called back because of too many helmet radios on the field. Wonder what the refs hand signals are for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Would have been great to seen them have a wildly successful play get called back because of too many helmet radios on the field. Wonder what the refs hand signals are for that? This seems like an appropriate signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I'd assume "illegal procedure" would cover it. Stupid rule; what POSSIBLE competitive advantage comes from that? I suppose the 2nd QB would hear the play clearly and not have to have it relayed to him...big whoop. Doesn't sound like anything that the Falcons are going to spend too awful much time worrying about, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 The Kordell Stewert rule when O'Donnell and Kordell were both wearing the communication devices. Then the rule was set that only one player on the field was allowed to use it at a time. I think it would be ruled unsportmanslike conduct if it was enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I'd assume "illegal procedure" would cover it. Illegal procedure deals with the may players move prior to and with the snap (2 men moving, moving forward during the snap... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Illegal procedure deals with the may players move prior to and with the snap (2 men moving, moving forward during the snap... ) Too few men on the line is also illegal procedure. I'd assume that it's an infraction more worthy of a 5 yd procedural penalty than a 15 yd unsportsmanlike. I have to give the refs points for common sense, actually - a quick warning was much better than throwing a flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I love it when the ref calls "Illegal Participation." They call that when there's 12 men on the field. My boy got called for it this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Why don't they just rig up two helmets for Vick and two for Schaub? ...unless there is a rule somewhere that a player can't have more than one helmet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcmast Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Why don't they just rig up two helmets for Vick and two for Schaub? ...unless there is a rule somewhere that a player can't have more than one helmet... They got rid of that after Thurman Thomas couldn't find his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Stupid rule; what POSSIBLE competitive advantage comes from that? I suppose the 2nd QB would hear the play clearly and not have to have it relayed to him...big whoop. Say all players have a ear piece. The coach can call in the play to everyone and not require a huddle or the QB calling out the play. Also the coach or someone else on the sideline may see something, either good or bad, from their perspective and notify a particular player without having the QB call it out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Say all players have a ear piece. The coach can call in the play to everyone and not require a huddle or the QB calling out the play. Also the coach or someone else on the sideline may see something, either good or bad, from their perspective and notify a particular player without having the QB call it out as well. actualy i like that idea = more offensive scoring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Instead of talking to McKay during the game, I'm surprised Mora didn't just whip out his cellphone and call 411 or his dad to ask about the rule. He could've also gotten an update on the playoff implications if they had played Dallas to a tie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Would have been great to seen them have a wildly successful play get called back because of too many helmet radios on the field. Wonder what the refs hand signals are for that? So they have to switch helmets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.