theeohiostate Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I realize they still have a winning bowl game record. But : Oklahoma State 34, Alabama 31 , they lost this game that was a push either way, but being from the percieved deeper and better conference, this was a game they should have won. Kentucky 28, Clemson 20 - KY surprised most by winning this game, great win for the SEC South Carolina 44, Houston 36 - WOW! A crappy win verse a crappy team, much expected Georgia vs Virginia Tech - solid win, i expected this won, due to the lack of quality teams in the ACC Tennessee 10 vs Penn State 20 -SEC should have won this game, the Big Ten steps up to show a little strength Arkansas 14 vs Wisconsin 17 - Nail in the coffin for the SEC faithful to suggest this conference is so much superior a good win for the Big 10, furthering thier dominance this bowl season over the SEC Auburn 17 vs Nebraska 14 - Auburn looked horrible and should have lost, but won, if you want to call it that way. Callahan should be ashamed of his role in losing this game for his kids who outplayed Auburn all game long. Any thoughts? I went into this bowl season with the expectation that the Big 10 would only win 2 games, Michigan and OSU. I thought the SEC would show us, what we've been drilled into our heads to believe, that they are the superior conference. I was fooled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 I guess not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 anyone impressed? that's what i thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 After tonight who couldn't be impressed? LSU 41 Notre Dame 14 SEC rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'm impressed by LSU, kudos to them, but the Big Ten is still 2-0 vs the SEC, about to be 3-0 next Monday, against the MOST ELITE SEC team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 BTW, I wanted to post this earlier but kept forgetting, TOSU, if this isn't a classic example of someone fishing, I don't know what is lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'm impressed by LSU, kudos to them, but the Big Ten is still 2-0 vs the SEC, about to be 3-0 next Monday, against the MOST ELITE SEC team. OK you caught the biggest fish in the ocean. Can't defend all of the SEC but the score if you are counting is actually SEC 5-3 Big Ten 2-4. Even if the big 10 beats the 2nd best team in the SEC your conference still finishes the bowl season at under .500 that's certainly nothing to hang your big ten hat on. Maybe your Ohio State hat but not your big 10 hat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Then again, find a post where I said the Big Ten was going to do so impressively this bowl season? I picked Iowa to win (of course I'm going to do that) but I was the ONLY one in that bowl sheet to do so, since you're starting to use that as some sort of reference... If you take out the Iowa game... I picked the Big Ten to win 3 and lose 3. I thought the top 3 teams would do well, obviously I was wrong about Michigan, of course USC is no slouch, and I viewed that game as a toss up, I said Wisconsin would beat Arkansas, but Penn State would lose. I've also said on many occasions, that I felt the SEC was the best conference this year as well, but the Big Ten will go 3-0 against the best conference after OSU whacks Florida around. Now if this is a down year for the Big Ten as everyone has said it is, then winning 3 aint half bad. It isn't great, but isn't bad. Big Ten had a very tough bowl slate too. They were underdogs in every game but 2, Iowa probably had the toughest game out of anyone this entire bowl season besides Notre Dame (having to play LSU at LSU) playing at Texas, and lost by 2. Purdue is just garbage, missed both Michigan and Ohio State on the schedule, I knew Maryland was gonna whack them. Texas Tech was a far superior team to Minnesota, but Minnesota had them whooped, but then blew the game. Inexcusable? Michigan got whacked by USC, no way around it, but USC is a great football team that got tripped up during the season a couple times. I would argue that USC is every bit as good as any SEC team. Then we have to play 2 SEC Teams. And by playing 2 SEC teams, that means you're playing the 3rd/4th/5th (however you SEC homers want to rank your teams) best teams (Just ask SEC fans) in the country. Beat them both. Both of which, btw, were games the SEC teams were favored. And now we get the top 2 teams. Big Ten Champ vs SEC champ. Big Ten Champ vs the best team in the country (after all they won the SEC they have to be the best team, who beat the best 2 loss team of all time). Now who had a tougher slate than that. 3-5 is pretty respectable, all things considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'll be honest with you since I think you are doing the same. IF Ohio State beats Michigan then the Big 10 IMO is one of the best conference. If they don't then the Big 10 drops considerably. 2-5 would be bad especially if your Big 2 were to lose. LSU did enough for the SEC to retain their conference again IMO to be the the #1 conference regardless of the outcome in Glendale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 You might be right, but I don't think Ohio State beating Florida means the Big Ten is any better or worse than I thought they were before the bowls started. All it means at this point in the season, is that Ohio State is the best team in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) You might be right, but I don't think Ohio State beating Florida means the Big Ten is any better or worse than I thought they were before the bowls started. All it means at this point in the season, is that Ohio State is the best team in the country. Sorry, but Ohio State is now carrying the Big 10 on it's shoulder. You have to admit it after Michigan got waxed it is critical for the Buckeyes to win. If not then the Big 10 will lose alot of it's thunder when it comes to national recognition. It's actually that simple since Michigan got hammered. That's not picking on the Big 10 that's just the plain truth. Edited January 4, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) Any thoughts? I went into this bowl season with the expectation that the Big 10 would only win 2 games, Michigan and OSU. I thought the SEC would show us, what we've been drilled into our heads to believe, that they are the superior conference. For the first time you actually might have predicted something right except your two wins didn't come form your Big 2 Elite. Edited January 4, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Sorry, but Ohio State is now carrying the Big 10 on it's shoulder. You have to admit it after Michigan got waxed it is critical for the Buckeyes to win. If not then the Big 10 will lose alot of it's thunder when it comes to national recognition. It's actually that simple since Michigan got hammered. That's not picking on the Big 10 that's just the plain truth. What thunder did the Big Ten ever have? All the media hype has been on TWO teams in the Big Ten. Thats it. While the SEC was hailed as the greatest conference ever by the media. The Big Ten got no respect, and quite frankly, doesn't deserve any more than they are getting other than knocking off the two SEC teams so far. If Ohio State wins, that doesn't make the Big Ten any better or any worse. If they lose, then yeah, I guess they lost whatever "thunder" they ever had. I mean give me a break. You tell me what analyst other than Homer Herbstreit, thought the Big Ten was any good this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 What thunder did the Big Ten ever have? All the media hype has been on TWO teams in the Big Ten. Thats it. While the SEC was hailed as the greatest conference ever by the media. The Big Ten got no respect, and quite frankly, doesn't deserve any more than they are getting other than knocking off the two SEC teams so far. If Ohio State wins, that doesn't make the Big Ten any better or any worse. If they lose, then yeah, I guess they lost whatever "thunder" they ever had. I mean give me a break. You tell me what analyst other than Homer Herbstreit, thought the Big Ten was any good this year? I recall many people not just in this forum say they thought Michigan was the #2 team in the country and should be allowed to play a redo against the other Big ten team. I know you weren't for a rematch, but you did think Michigan was the second best team at that time. My argument has always been not that I think Florida is the 2nd best team, but whether Ohio State or Florida is in fact the #1 team. After the Rose Bowl I think it's pretty clear Michigan isn't the #1 team, so now we at least have a chance to find out if Ohio State is deserving of their #1 ranking espcially since their biggest quality win vs. Michigan has been tarnished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I recall many people not just in this forum say they thought Michigan was the #2 team in the country and should be allowed to play a redo against the other Big ten team. I know you weren't for a rematch, but you did think Michigan was the second best team at that time. My argument has always been not that I think Florida is the 2nd best team, but whether Ohio State or Florida is in fact the #1 team. After the Rose Bowl I think it's pretty clear Michigan isn't the #1 team, so now we at least have a chance to find out if Ohio State is deserving of their #1 ranking espcially since their biggest quality win vs. Michigan has been tarnished. Isn't that what I just said? The Big Ten got hype for 2 teams all year long. That's it. So again, I ask you, what thunder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Isn't that what I just said? The Big Ten got hype for 2 teams all year long. That's it. So again, I ask you, what thunder? Having the #1 & #2 ranked team in the nation for several weeks at the end of the season is SUPER THUNDER, don't you think? Now if they both lose what woud be the basis of ranking either of those teams in say the top 6? Guess we could twist something out of those two big ten bowl wins. Maybe Texas or ND wins? My point is if both OS & Michigan lose that certainly makes those early thunderest #1 & #2 rankings look silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFanUnfortunately Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 The SEC is 5-3, two games over 500, not bad. I was predicting 6-2 at this point. I thought Alabama, Arkansas and Tennessee had good chances to win, they didn't. I didn't think Kentucky and Georgia would win, they did. I also didn't think the Big Ten would only have two wins at this point. That's why they play the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 anyone impressed? that's what i thought. OSU ask this question after another half and let me know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 OSU ask this question after another half and let me know the answer. I'd say i'm less impressed with the Bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFanUnfortunately Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 OSU ask this question after another half and let me know the answer. A lot of game left. But unless something drastic happens, I would say 6-3 and a national title would be pretty impressive. The 3 losses were a 3 point loss by Bama whose program was way down this year; a 3 pont loss by Arkansas who played poorly had 140 yards in penalties, blew several FG opportunties and only loss by 3 but held Wisconsin to -5 yards rushing; and Tennessee who was tied late in the game and driving for the go ahead TD when they fumbled on PSU's 12 yard line and PSU took it back for a score. All 3 losses were competitive. On the other hand Michigan for a game and OSU for a half... Let's just say OSU has some work to do for the Big Ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFanUnfortunately Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I'd say i'm less impressed with the Bucks. That is called denial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 A lot of game left. But unless something drastic happens, I would say 6-3 and a national title would be pretty impressive. The 3 losses were a 3 point loss by Bama whose program was way down this year; a 3 pont loss by Arkansas who played poorly had 140 yards in penalties, blew several FG opportunties and only loss by 3 but held Wisconsin to -5 yards rushing; and Tennessee who was tied late in the game and driving for the go ahead TD when they fumbled on PSU's 12 yard line and PSU took it back for a score. All 3 losses were competitive. On the other hand Michigan for a game and OSU for a half... Let's just say OSU has some work to do for the Big Ten. Hey, maybe we should lay off these guys a little. It's obvious guys like Sarge and TOS are fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 pwned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I realize they still have a winning bowl game record. Any thoughts? I went into this bowl season with the expectation that the Big 10 would only win 2 games, Michigan and OSU. I thought the SEC would show us, what we've been drilled into our heads to believe, that they are the superior conference. I was fooled You were foolish not fooled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickL Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 i was pretty impressed last night to see Florida destroy the much heralded Ohio State team. you guys sure put tons of stock in crappy bowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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