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HOF Finalists announced at 3pm


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That's what I'm curious about. The NFL doesn't have official tackle sacks anywhere online....:D

 

From the Broncos site

 

Randy Gradishar's Regular Season RecordYear		   Games  Starts Tackles   Ints. Yards	 Avg.	 TD1974		   14	 4		 51	   0	   0	  0.0	 01975		   14	 14	   177	   3	  77	 25.7	 11976		   14	 14	   198	   3	  44	 14.7	 11977		   14	 14	   219	   3	  56	 18.7	 01978		   16	 16	   286	   4	  19	  4.8	 01979		   16	 15	   235	   0	   0	  0.0	 01980		   16	 16	   250	   2	  96	 38.0	 11981		   16	 16	   258	   4	  38	  9.5	 01982		   9	   9	   151	   0	   0	  0.0	 01983		   16	 16	   224	   1	   5	  5.0	 0Career Totals 145	134	 2,049	  20	 335	 16.8	 3

 

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From the Broncos site

 

Randy Gradishar's Regular Season RecordYear		   Games  Starts Tackles   Ints. Yards	 Avg.	 TD1974		   14	 4		 51	   0	   0	  0.0	 01975		   14	 14	   177	   3	  77	 25.7	 11976		   14	 14	   198	   3	  44	 14.7	 11977		   14	 14	   219	   3	  56	 18.7	 01978		   16	 16	   286	   4	  19	  4.8	 01979		   16	 15	   235	   0	   0	  0.0	 01980		   16	 16	   250	   2	  96	 38.0	 11981		   16	 16	   258	   4	  38	  9.5	 01982		   9	   9	   151	   0	   0	  0.0	 01983		   16	 16	   224	   1	   5	  5.0	 0Career Totals 145	134	 2,049	  20	 335	 16.8	 3

 

 

 

wow. 15 tackles per game over a 10 year career? now wonder he was in the pro bowl pretty much every year. no wonder he was hands down the best player on what, for a couple years anyway, was the best defense in the league. now why isn't he even a FINALIST for the hall of fame? :D

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wow. 15 tackles per game over a 10 year career? now wonder he was in the pro bowl pretty much every year. no wonder he was hands down the best player on what, for a couple years anyway, was the best defense in the league. now why isn't he even a FINALIST for the hall of fame? :D

 

 

I totally don't want to turn this into a Randy Gradishar bashing thread, so Bronco fans don't insinuate that I'm doing such a thing. :D

 

But 286 tackles in one season? I honest to goodness find that extremely difficult to accept that as an accurate figure. They don't have the same stats available for his teammate Tom Jackson. I can't find any tackles data for Jack Lambert or Lawrence Taylor (the best before and after Gradishar). I'm not even sure the NFL began keeping tackles data prior to 2002 or so.....

 

I'll look into this further, but file me under skeptical. :bash:

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I totally don't want to turn this into a Randy Gradishar bashing thread, so Bronco fans don't insinuate that I'm doing such a thing. :D

 

But 286 tackles in one season? I honest to goodness find that extremely difficult to accept that as an accurate figure. They don't have the same stats available for his teammate Tom Jackson. I can't find any tackles data for Jack Lambert or Lawrence Taylor (the best before and after Gradishar). I'm not even sure the NFL began keeping tackles data prior to 2002 or so.....

 

I'll look into this further, but file me under skeptical. :D

 

 

I thought that the teams kept track of tackles, and the league didn't, thus the numbers are taken from what the teams report. And from what I've gathered those numbers have always been a little generous??????

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These would be my choices:

 

Ray Guy - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders

Bruce Matthews - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans

Art Monk - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles

Derrick Thomas - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs

Thurman Thomas - Running Back - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins

 

 

Since I can only pick 6 and I forgot about Tagliabue (definitely in), I edited my picks above.

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Here are the 25 semifinalists to refresh your memory:

 

Terrell Davis - RB - ......

 

There is a separate list for old-timers, players that ended their career more than 25 years ago, isn't there? I like to look at that list, because I hope that someday, they will come to their senses about Tommy Nobis.

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I thought that the teams kept track of tackles, and the league didn't, thus the numbers are taken from what the teams report. And from what I've gathered those numbers have always been a little generous??????

 

 

i think that's correct. they probably didnt credit half tackles as such either. when did the NFL start keeping official stats, anyone have any idea?

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Guys who should get in this year:

Ray Guy

Art Monk

Paul Tagliabue (coaches, etc. should have to wait 5yrs, but don't ... so, he gets in on the first ballot)

Derrick Thomas

 

For the final two spots, I can't decide between:

Richard Dent

Russ Grimm

Michael Irvin

Bruce Matthews

Thurman Thomas

 

...but, I think that Dent, Matthews and Thomas are prolly higher in the vote tallys than Grimm or Irvin...

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i think that's correct. they probably didnt credit half tackles as such either. when did the NFL start keeping official stats, anyone have any idea?

 

 

Official defensive stats? For something like tackles, it's been very recently. Sacks and interceptions, a lot longer.

 

The only data I can find on tackles are unofficial and date back to 1993. League leader that season was a safety, Eugene Robinson of Seattle with 163. Since that is barely different than the leader for Zach Thomas in 2006 (165 tackles), I still find it hard to believe that the game changed that much in the previous 15 years to where an LB in a 3-4 scheme got 286 tackles.

 

Unless, we're adding pre-season and post-season in the mix?

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