Rockerbraves Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 SEC should continue to dominate college football for years to come grabbing seven out of the top ten spots in the final 2007 rankings. Its not the bias of one recruiting organization either. Our conference is ranked very similarly by scout as well. http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=451&p=9&c=14&view=2&yr=2007 Rivals.com Final 2007 PROSPECT COMMITMENTS School TOTAL Commits Commits Commits Avg Stars Points 1 Florida 27 4 16 7 3.89 2,959 2 Southern Cal 18 6 10 2 4.22 2,761 3 Tennessee 32 5 11 15 3.63 2,726 4 LSU 26 2 19 5 3.88 2,695 5 Texas 24 2 16 5 3.79 2,562 6 South Carolina 31 1 14 13 3.42 2,190 7 Auburn 30 0 13 15 3.37 2,013 8 Notre Dame 18 1 12 4 3.72 1,932 9 Georgia 23 0 12 10 3.48 1,895 10 Alabama 24 0 10 11 3.29 1,790 11 Oregon 29 0 12 12 3.24 1,760 12 Michigan 20 2 5 12 3.40 1,750 13 Nebraska 27 0 10 16 3.33 1,734 14 Oklahoma 20 1 9 8 3.45 1,718 15 Ohio State 15 0 12 3 3.80 1,577 16 North Carolina 23 2 4 12 3.13 1,542 17 Illinois 20 2 5 10 3.30 1,509 18 Florida State 19 0 8 9 3.32 1,464 19 Georgia Tech 20 0 8 10 3.30 1,453 20 Clemson 22 0 7 12 3.18 1,436 21 California 25 0 5 18 3.12 1,405 22 Miami-FL 17 1 7 7 3.41 1,401 23 Penn State 21 0 8 8 3.14 1,305 24 Virginia 24 0 7 11 3.04 1,267 25 Pittsburgh 24 0 6 13 3.04 1,265 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I know that Rivals tends to have Southern bias. They really tend to like the kids from Texas and Florida (the states that is.) I don't put a whole lot into these type of rankings. Texas has had a top 5 recruiting class every year since 1999 and finally won a NC in 2005. Some of it is coaching (I hate Greg Davis) but some of it is how well can you really rank all the HS kids in the nation? Who has time to watch all the game film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I know that Rivals tends to have Southern bias. They really tend to like the kids from Texas and Florida (the states that is.) I don't put a whole lot into these type of rankings. Texas has had a top 5 recruiting class every year since 1999 and finally won a NC in 2005. Some of it is coaching (I hate Greg Davis) but some of it is how well can you really rank all the HS kids in the nation? Who has time to watch all the game film? Bingo. The only ones who get ranked are the ones who parade themselves out there to the highest bidders. There are plenty of kids who have been going to the same camps year-in and year-out, who have relationships with college coaches, and will never get the publicity as some of the kids who have to get fought over to commit to someplace. Reality is that 50% of these KIDS won't pan out the way the "scouts" project them to. Nevertheless it gives the college football-niks something to masturbate over during the winter time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 I know that Rivals tends to have Southern bias. They really tend to like the kids from Texas and Florida (the states that is.) I don't put a whole lot into these type of rankings. Texas has had a top 5 recruiting class every year since 1999 and finally won a NC in 2005. Some of it is coaching (I hate Greg Davis) but some of it is how well can you really rank all the HS kids in the nation? Who has time to watch all the game film? No doubt not every kid ranked high will make it big, but it is probably the best way to look into the future. Click here to see Rivals.com top 100 ranking from 2003. Notice any big name players? Reggie Bush, JaMarcus Russell, http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewr...2003&ra_key=255 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Click here to see Rivals.com top 100 ranking from 2003. Notice any big name players? Reggie Bush, JaMarcus Russell, There are 25 5-star recruits on that list. How many turned out to be star players? I'm counting 4...maybe 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 (edited) There are 25 5-star recruits on that list. How many turned out to be star players? I'm counting 4...maybe 5? Not sure what your point is...Are you saying you would rather have a recruiting class of three or two star athletes? Going in the first round of the NFL draft is no guarantee of success either, but I would take 7 first rounders anyday over seven 3rd or 4th rounders. Edited February 8, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 (edited) Not sure what your point is...Are you saying you would rather have a recruiting class of three or two star athletes? Going in the first round of the NFL draft is no guarantee of success either, but I would take 7 first rounders anyday over seven 3rd or 4th rounders. I'm saying that ranking recruiting classes on letter of intent day is completely irrelevant and a measurement of nothing. ETA: What's the point of getting a 5-star player if he's dropping balls for Northern Iowa by his senior season, or his knees suck, or he didn't physically mature the way he projected? Edited February 8, 2007 by godtomsatan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewp...ey=8427&Sport=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewp...ey=8427&Sport=1 Hits and misses from Texas http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/big12/s...ng.2df7a17.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 I'm saying that ranking recruiting classes on letter of intent day is completely irrelevant and a measurement of nothing. ETA: What's the point of getting a 5-star player if he's dropping balls for Northern Iowa by his senior season, or his knees suck, or he didn't physically mature the way he projected? Luv it when people say football is all about X's and O's especially when my team's X's are better than your team's O's. Quick glance at the last four years team recruiting rankings: 2003 1 LSU 28 1 17 10 3.68 2,626 2 Florida 26 5 9 10 3.65 2,358 3 Southern Cal 28 2 10 14 3.43 2,327 4 Oklahoma 24 0 16 6 3.58 2,121 5 Miami-FL 24 3 10 10 3.63 2,067 6 Georgia 25 2 8 13 3.40 1,947 7 NC State 28 1 6 17 3.14 1,889 8 South Carolina 29 1 4 18 3.00 1,831 9 Mississippi State 28 2 3 18 3.07 1,799 10 Texas A&M 24 1 5 17 3.25 1,778 2004 1 Southern Cal 20 8 7 3 4.05 2,908 2 LSU 28 3 12 10 3.54 2,492 3 Florida State 27 1 16 8 3.59 2,377 4 Miami-FL 28 3 10 9 3.36 2,329 5 Michigan 22 1 12 8 3.59 2,116 6 Georgia 21 1 11 8 3.57 2,074 7 Florida 23 1 11 10 3.52 2,065 8 Oklahoma 18 3 8 6 3.72 2,055 9 Ohio State 25 1 9 10 3.24 1,913 10 Texas 20 1 9 9 3.50 1,864 2005 1 Southern Cal 20 4 11 5 3.95 2,631 2 Florida State 22 3 13 5 3.82 2,582 3 Oklahoma 27 2 14 10 3.63 2,441 4 Tennessee 27 1 16 9 3.63 2,403 5 Nebraska 30 2 11 12 3.33 2,178 6 Michigan 23 1 10 11 3.48 1,995 7 Miami-FL 17 2 11 3 3.82 1,976 8 Texas A&M 26 1 9 11 3.23 1,839 9 California 24 1 9 12 3.38 1,816 10 Georgia 19 0 11 8 3.58 1,814 2006 1 Southern Cal 25 5 14 6 3.96 3,018 2 Florida 27 4 17 5 3.89 2,901 3 Florida State 31 2 18 10 3.68 2,703 4 Georgia 28 2 14 12 3.64 2,436 5 Texas 25 2 11 12 3.60 2,283 6 Penn State 24 1 14 8 3.63 2,241 7 LSU 25 2 12 11 3.64 2,238 8 Notre Dame 28 2 10 15 3.46 2,189 9 Oklahoma 28 1 13 14 3.54 2,180 10 Auburn 25 1 14 7 3.52 2,148 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Luv it when people say football is all about X's and O's especially when my team's X's are better than your team's O's. You have a lot of reading comprehension problems. Explain these teams performance last season with this group of seniors? 2006 final AP ranking 2003 - 2006 is the 4th year of players recruited 1 LSU 28 1 17 10 3.68 2,626 #3 2 Florida 26 5 9 10 3.65 2,358 #1 3 Southern Cal 28 2 10 14 3.43 2,327 #4 4 Oklahoma 24 0 16 6 3.58 2,121 #11 LSU and FSU both had down years in 2002, so obviously they had some great talent come in that resulted in really good teams in 2006. USC and Oklahoma were top programs in 2002 and are top programs now. My question to you would be to counter your insistence that these kinds of rankings mean something beyond setting expectations in February, where is Ohio State on this ranking list? How about Wisconsin? Louisville? Michigan? Boise State? 5 Miami-FL 24 3 10 10 3.63 2,067 Unranked 6 Georgia 25 2 8 13 3.40 1,947 #23 7 NC State 28 1 6 17 3.14 1,889 Unranked 8 South Carolina 29 1 4 18 3.00 1,831 Unranked 9 Mississippi State 28 2 3 18 3.07 1,799 Unranked 10 Texas A&M 24 1 5 17 3.25 1,778 Unranked Explain why these teams are listed on the same poll, yet were not quality squads on the field. Essentially, AGAIN, I'll say that ranking recruiting classes on letter of intent day is completely irrelevant and a measurement of nothing. You're doing nothing to prove anything different to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 Essentially, AGAIN, I'll say that ranking recruiting classes on letter of intent day is completely irrelevant and a measurement of nothing. You're doing nothing to prove anything different to me. Let's try one more time to explain how the Rivals.com star system seems to work pretty good. This time lets use this year's NFL projected top draft choices and and see if that helps you better understand. Granted there are always some exceptions but for the most part the star rating system has gotten alot better of late considering HS schools and combines are providing more reliable information these days. Ready! Let's get started with my favorite team LSU of course. Jamarcus Russell 4 star Dwayne Bowe 4 star Laron Landry 4 star Chris Leak 5 star (Won the NC) Troy Smith 4 star (Won the Heisman) Joe Thomas 4 star Brady Quinn 4 star Calvin Johnson 4 star Jamal Anderson 2 star as a WR (Is a DE) Allan Branch 4 star Gains Adams 3 star as a TE (is a DE) Adrian Peterson 5 star Levi Brown 4 star Reggie Nelson 4 star Amobi Okoye 2 star as a OL (is a DE and a FREAK!) Leon Hall 4 star Lawrence Timmons 4 star Javaris Moss 5 star Marshawn Lynch 4 star Ted Ginn Jr. 5 star Adam Carriker 3 star Dwayne Jarret 4 star Darrelle Revis 3 star Quinton Moses 3 star Aaron Ross 4 star Sidney Rice 3 star DeMarcus Tyler 3 star Patrick Willis 3 star Paul Posluszny 3 star Marcus Macculey 2 star Ben Grubs 3 star as a DE (is a OG) Robert Meachem 5 star Aaron Sears 4 star John Beason 4 stars Out of 34 players listed 5 5 stars 17 4 stars 9 3 stars 3 2 stars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbmcdonald Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) 1 Ernie Sims 2 Reggie Bush 3 Whitney Lewis 4 Andre Caldwell 5 Kyle Wright 6 Prescott Burgess 7 Tony Hills Jr. 8 Jorrie Adams 9 Paul Oliver 10 Greg Olsen This is Rivals top 10 from 2003, other than Bush, who can tell give me a position and college, for more than 2 of these guys? (With out looking it up) Edited February 13, 2007 by rbmcdonald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Well you'll think im lying that i didnt look it up but i'll do it anyway... Sims, LB, FSU Lewis, WR, USC Caldwell, WR, Fla Wright, QB, Miami Burgess, LB, Mich Adams, OL, A & M Olsen, OL, Miami ???? How'd I do? Edited February 13, 2007 by GWPFFL BrianW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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