muck Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 No one thinks Matt Hasselbeck is a Hall of Fame level QB. He is what he is - and what he is, is VERY GOOD but not "great." So, Vick, McNair, Culpepper, etc. are HOF QBs? McNabb, maybe. The rest of those guys? Prolly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 For me : Honorable mention for dan marino Low blow to all Dolphins Fans. You made me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 So, Vick, McNair, Culpepper, etc. are HOF QBs? McNabb, maybe. The rest of those guys? Prolly not. Chavez was responding to a specific post mentioning Hassleback's "hump". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 McNair, he only probably has one more year before he has to hang it up and Baltimore has to move on. Baltimore is a very old offensive team. I agree that McNair only has a year (maybe two). However, Baltimore is not an old team. They have great young WR's in Clayon and Williams. Heap is only 5 years in. Granted, Ogden is about out of juice, but four other lineman have less than four years experience. And Jamal isn't old, he's just poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'd agre 100% with this - Manning had a "hump" because there was talk about him being the greatest EVER and his resume was missing one very notable piece - playoff success, if not a Super Bowl. I don't really see anyone else out there at his level. Maybe I'm reading this incorrectly, but you don't put Brady at Manning's level... or even near it? I'd say that the two are pretty close, with Peyton slightly ahead. And the talk of Peyton being the "greatest ever" is premature, IMO. I'd say that he's passed Young and Elway at this point but, man, it's going to be tough to pass Marino and Favre. And even if he was fortunate enough to get past those two statistically, would he really be as great in this era as Unitas was in his? I'm not sure about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I'd say that he's passed Young and Elway at this point but, man, it's going to be tough to pass Marino and Favre. Fair points, although Elway's career spanned a longer period of time. To early to tell on Marino and Farve. And even if he was fortunate enough to get past those two statistically, would he really be as great in this era as Unitas was in his? I'm not sure about that. Agreed. I don't think anyone here actually watched Unitas live, but what's clear is that this guy changed the landscape of the game during his era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 everyone has given up on Culpepper? I remember when he was better than McNabb What a year that was... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Fair points, although Elway's career spanned a longer period of time. Actually, I take that back about Elway. In retrospect, Peyton probably needs another few years to surprass Elway (although he'll surpass his passing TD total next season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Actually, I take that back about Elway. In retrospect, Peyton probably needs another few years to surprass Elway (although he'll surpass his passing TD total next season). Oh yeah? Well he'll never touch Elway's rushing yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 (edited) Maybe I'm reading this incorrectly, but you don't put Brady at Manning's level... or even near it? I'd say that the two are pretty close, with Peyton slightly ahead. I was referring specifically to Peyton getting the playoff monkey off his back. I don't have the will to endure another Brady/Manning debate at this point in time. And the talk of Peyton being the "greatest ever" is premature, IMO. I'd say that he's passed Young and Elway at this point but, man, it's going to be tough to pass Marino and Favre. And even if he was fortunate enough to get past those two statistically, would he really be as great in this era as Unitas was in his? I'm not sure about that. I'm not saying I think Manning is the greatest ever; I'm just pointing out why a Super Bowl win is so important to his legacy in some people's eyes. Edited February 10, 2007 by Chavez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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