kingfish247 Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) already got rid of the zone blocking system, a new varied offensive gameplan, and probably most importantly... accountability. i'm liking this new staff more and more each day. 'No coddling of Vick' New offensive coordinator says QB 'excited' about audible freedom By STEVE WYCHE The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 02/12/07 Falcons quarterback Michael Vick may be the team's most recognizable and highly paid player but the new coaching staff, led by head coach Bobby Petrino, could care less. "There will be no coddling of Michael Vick," offensive coordinator Hue Jackson said in an exclusive interview with the AJC Monday. "We're not going to coddle Michael Vick. This is not a demerit system where we say, 'Okay we're going to deal with this guy this way and this guy that way.' We're going to coach them all hard and he knows that. We have an expectation of him and I think he'll be the first to tell you that I'm not afraid to say anything to him and I'm not afraid to say anything to anyone on this offense. "There is an expectation and that's what we're going to get. I don't care what the position is. That's the way we see it and that's the way we're going to deal with it." Vick was not available for comment. Jackson, hired from Cincinnati, where he was the Bengals' wide receivers coach, said he speaks with Vick every two days and the quarterback is eager to start learning the new offensive system. Petrino and Jackson said Vick will be allowed to audible at the line of scrimmage and that the quarterback is excited about the change. Vick was not allowed to alter a run play to a pass or a pass to a run under the previous coaching staff, headed by Jim Mora and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. "He is very excited almost to a point where he's, "Give me all the information now,'" Jackson said. "He's chomping at the bit. Our expectation is our quarterback is the extension of us and he's the guy running the show. He should get it all and he should be able to handle that. We expect our quarterback to do more than anybody on this football team. He should do more. He's going to hit the right calls. He has to hit the right calls." — For more, read the full-length article in the AJC print version or at AJC.com later this week. Edited February 14, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Might be a nice #1 QB next year if this pans out. Look at what Jackson did with previous no-names in Cinn. Housh, Henry, etc. And if the defense (Abraham) is healthy there should be lots of short fields for Vick to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Vick presents such a different set of skills to the position that there will always be the sense that he could be a great one - if he was used in a manner that made use of all his skills and downplayed or eliminated his weaknesses. But used conventionally as he has the past years, he never rises to the level everyone expects because he is not that sort of QB. I am not completely sold that he is a QB per se, but he has undeniable skills that I suspect are best suited for getting him the ball as much as possible. If the offense caters to him, it could be dangerous. If they try to make him what he is not, it will flop yet again. Be interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Whats wrong with cuddling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 (edited) "There will be no coddling of Michael Vick," Translation: Vick is on thin ice and he'd better live up to the hype and produce this coming season - or he'll be playing elsewhere in '08. Edited February 14, 2007 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 So draft Vick according to how successful you'll think he will be but basically it's in his hands so don't bother drafting anyone else except for Alge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Petrino and Jackson said Vick will be allowed to audible at the line of scrimmage and that the quarterback is excited about the change. Vick was not allowed to alter a run play to a pass or a pass to a run under the previous coaching staff, headed by Jim Mora and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp. Soooooo, how long before he finds the Falcons down by 27 in the 3rd quarter, loses interest, and changes "a run to the weakside" to "a run out to get weeeed" ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share Posted February 14, 2007 Vick presents such a different set of skills to the position that there will always be the sense that he could be a great one - if he was used in a manner that made use of all his skills and downplayed or eliminated his weaknesses. But used conventionally as he has the past years, he never rises to the level everyone expects because he is not that sort of QB. I am not completely sold that he is a QB per se, but he has undeniable skills that I suspect are best suited for getting him the ball as much as possible. If the offense caters to him, it could be dangerous. If they try to make him what he is not, it will flop yet again. Be interesting... This has always been my view of Vick. Knapp's system never was the right fit nor was his inability or unwillingness to change anything for his players' skill set. Not just Vick but his o-line, WRs, and RBs. What Knapp wanted to do was constantly at odds with what his players could actually do. Now if they can manage to not lose Zimmer to the Chargers, I'll be a content ATL homer. Until draft day of course when we take Ginn in the first and another VTech corner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Whats wrong with cuddling? Nothing!! Its Valentines Day!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 Any word on whether ATL plans on starting their best QB for a change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 14, 2007 Share Posted February 14, 2007 What?!?!?! They are going to expect him to finally be an NFL QB. Good luck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 What?!?!?! They are going to expect him to finally be an NFL QB. Good luck with that. Glad I am not the only one that caught that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Translation: Vick is on thin ice and he'd better live up to the hype and produce this coming season - or he'll be playing elsewhere in '08. Because Vick's play seems to dictate the W-L of the team I wouldn't doubt that. Everything is about Vick and he needs and will step up this year and bring the Falcons back to the playoffs and further. But the problems weren't just on the offensive side of the ball. Injuries plagued the defense all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Because Vick's play seems to dictate the W-L of the team I wouldn't doubt that. Everything is about Vick and he needs and will step up this year and bring the Falcons back to the playoffs and further. But the problems weren't just on the offensive side of the ball. Injuries plagued the defense all year. Yes .... we all know how injuries on the defense impact the QB's ability to perform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Yes .... we all know how injuries on the defense impact the QB's ability to perform Did I say that. I'm not seeing anyone putting any of the blame on Donatel or the defense when they were getting smoked on a regular basis. Grits are we going to start another one? Alright how about the O-Line? Do they impact the QB's ability to perform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Because Vick's play seems to dictate the W-L of the team I wouldn't doubt that. Everything is about Vick and he needs and will step up this year and bring the Falcons back to the playoffs and further. But the problems weren't just on the offensive side of the ball. Injuries plagued the defense all year. Did I say that. I'm not seeing anyone putting any of the blame on Donatel or the defense when they were getting smoked on a regular basis. Grits are we going to start another one? Alright how about the O-Line? Do they impact the QB's ability to perform? Everything is about Vick and he needs and will step up ... but the problems weren't just on the offensive side of the ball. Injuries plagued the defense all year You are the one that tied the poor defense to Vick's inability to perform ... you were already making excuses for him. I'm thinking that any o-line that anchors one of the top running games in the league can't be all bad. And before you say they can't pass block ... I'd venture a guess that it is somewhat difficult to pass block when the QB refuses to exhibit any pocket presence what so ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'm thinking that any o-line that anchors one of the top running games in the league can't be all bad. And before you say they can't pass block ... I'd venture a guess that it is somewhat difficult to pass block when the QB refuses to exhibit any pocket presence what so ever. Or maybe it's the whole part of the game where Vick drops back and has to avoid the rush half the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Or maybe it's the whole part of the game where Vick drops back and has to avoid the rush half the time. You just keep apologizing for Vick ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 You just keep apologizing for Vick ... I'm not apologizing just stating the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I'm not apologizing just stating the facts. You are only deluding yourself with that belief ... we can all see you apologizing for Vick's inadequacies ... again ... and again .... and again ... and again ... ad nauseum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 You are only deluding yourself with that belief ... we can all see you apologizing for Vick's inadequacies ... again ... and again .... and again ... and again ... ad nauseum Does adding a infront of your posts make it right? Because the rest of your post is Sega!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Does adding a infront of your posts make it right? Because the rest of your post is Sega!. Look up the word "coddle" and "coddling" ... I venture to say a real QB doesn't need the definition you find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 Look up the word "coddle" and "coddling" ... I venture to say a real QB doesn't need the definition you find. What are you talking about? Where did I say that Vick needed to be "coddled"? No . Well then it can't be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) What are you talking about? Where did I say that Vick needed to be "coddled"? No . Well then it can't be true. His new OC said there will be "no more coddling of Vick". Why do you suppose he said that? Did he say it because the Atlanta defense sucked? Did he say it because the o-line under performed? Did he say it because Atlanta WRs drop balls.? Why would he say it? Edited February 15, 2007 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 (edited) His new OC said there will be "no more coddling of Vick". Why do you suppose he said that? My best bet is to emphasize that this offense will be built around Vick and if the offense doesn't flourish it'll be deemed his fault. And do I think it will flourish with the new coaching staff and the anticipation for this offseason. Hell yeah. Edited February 15, 2007 by broncosn05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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