NFL.com 3 round mock(not rookie)

[Randall]

Boldin late 3rd round?

[rajncajn]

Picking Bush in the 1st will be just as ignorant as it was this year...you heard it here first.

[Bronco Billy]

I googled Michael Fabiano, since I didn’t know who the hell he was. Now I know why:

 

 

Michael Fabiano, 31, has been a prominent member of CBS SportsLine.com's coverage of Fantasy sports since 2000.

 

NFL.com is proud to welcome NFL fantasy guru Michael Fabiano, one of the most experienced and respected fantasy football minds in the business.

 

Why would any site seeking credibilty with the FF crowd pick any of the plums off the CBS Sportsline crew?

 

Talk about your oxymorons. Or is that oxymorans..?

[The Irish Doggy]

Picking Bush in the 1st will be just as ignorant as it was this year...you heard it here first.

 

 

No doubt. With a healthy Deuce around, neither is draftable until the late 3rd I would guess.

 

Otherwise, its not the worst attempt at a mock that we've seen. Too many QBs of course.

Edited February 22, 2007 by The Irish Doggy

[Bronco Billy]

He really does fail in some of the basic errors that neophyte FFers succumb to and then wonder where they went wrong in their drafts:

 

Picking Brees & Bulger in the first 3 rounds is a classic noobie error - expecting players to duplicate career years. After Manning set the TD record, the following year people were predicting passing TDs in the 40s and some were even wondering whether he would break his new record. Instead he reverted to his mean - about 28 passing TDs. That doesn't mean Manning sucks - he's quite possibly the greatest regular season QB in NFL history - it just means he doesn't separate himself from the second tier of QBs enough to warrant a 1st round pick. The value simply isn't there.

 

He also discounts age, situations, & coaching changes completely - again, a serious and common rookie mistake. Examples of this are:

 

Holt has quite plainly been affected by Linehan's offense. After a superb 6 year run where Holt amassed at least 1300 receiving yards every year, he dropped off significantly by 18% of his previous 6 years' production average. While one could argue a reversion to his mean & that Holt may bounce back with a better 2007, like Manning's reversion to his 28 TD average, one can also look at Linehan's O & that Holt's receptions are low for him as are his ypr. Under Linehan it's simply unrealistic to expect 100+ catches at 14+ ypr. A 1100 yd season will probably become the norm as Linehan goes to a more run oriented O and starts to build his D. In other words, signs clearly point to STL becoming more conservative, and that doesn't bode well for Holt, while it does enhance Steven Jackson.

 

Anyone watching Harrison last year can easily see that he is slowing down. Where he always has drawn (and beaten) double coverage, he is getting to the point where one decent CB can account for him. He's 35 going on 36 this August, and while he was very productive this past season, that probably can be attributed to the emergence of Reggie Wayne as an elite WR. While Harrison still figures to glean some numbers off of Wayne's success, Wayne is the guy to have with Manning throwing right now. Harrison ain't going to start suddenly getting younger.

 

Travis Henry was a pleasant surprise last year, no doubt. Here's his biggest caveat, though: LenDale White is still on the roster. As long as there is a high draft pick sharing the duties, Henry's production has a relatively low ceiling for a team's #1 RB, much less going in the 2nd round. TEN ownership is at least going to see what White can do - which means he's going to get significant carries unless he turns into a complete turd. I'd be shocked to see anywhere near 270 touches again - I'd guess closer to 230-240 carries is more likely. That drops his likely production by 16%, give or take, if you consider that his ypc will probably drop back to his norm (that reversion from a career high thing again). That puts him into a bundle of low #2/decent #3 FF RB range, but hardly 2nd round material.

 

Don't even get me started with a CoP RB who has a very good vet RB along side him (remember when McAllister was a top 5 FF pick?) sharing the load going in the 1st...

Edited February 22, 2007 by Bronco Billy

[The Irish Doggy]

 

He also discounts age, situations, & coaching changes completely - again, a serious and common rookie mistake. Examples of this are:

 

Holt has quite plainly been affected by Linehan's offense. After a superb 6 year run where Holt amassed at least 1300 receiving yards every year, he dropped off significantly by 18% of his previous 6 years' production average. While one could argue a reversion to his mean & that Holt may bounce back with a better 2007, like Manning's reversion to his 28 TD average, one can also look at Linehan's O & that Holt's receptions are low for him as are his ypr. Under Linehan it's simply unrealistic to expect 100+ catches at 14+ ypr. A 1100 yd season will probably become the norm as Linehan goes to a more run oriented O and starts to build his D. In other words, signs clearly point to STL becoming more conservative, and that doesn't bode well for Holt, while it does enhance Steven Jackson.

 

 

 

I'm not buying it.

 

Bulger had a rib injury affecting his performance for a few games mid season - which coincided with Holt's poorest games.

 

Holt was targeted the most of any WR in the league.

 

Even with some struggles, both Bulger and Holt ended 6th in total points at their positions.

 

I haven't a clue how you can "enhance" a 2300 yard, 16TD RB even more with this evidence.

[Bronco Billy]

I'm not buying it.

 

Bulger had a rib injury affecting his performance for a few games mid season - which coincided with Holt's poorest games.

 

Holt was targeted the most of any WR in the league.

 

Even with some struggles, both Bulger and Holt ended 6th in total points at their positions.

 

I haven't a clue how you can "enhance" a 2300 yard, 16TD RB even more with this evidence.

 

 

Good, Then you'll be the guy drafting Holt in the 2nd round.

 

[Savage Beatings]

I know it's a wait and see kind of situation, but Kevin Jones at #27 (high 3rd round pick) seems way too high for a guy who might miss significant playing time next year.

[Azazello1313]

He really does fail in some of the basic errors that neophyte FFers succumb to and then wonder where they went wrong in their drafts:

 

Picking Brees & Bulger in the first 3 rounds is a classic noobie error - expecting players to duplicate career years. After Manning set the TD record, the following year people were predicting passing TDs in the 40s and some were even wondering whether he would break his new record. Instead he reverted to his mean - about 28 passing TDs. That doesn't mean Manning sucks - he's quite possibly the greatest regular season QB in NFL history - it just means he doesn't separate himself from the second tier of QBs enough to warrant a 1st round pick. The value simply isn't there.

 

He also discounts age, situations, & coaching changes completely - again, a serious and common rookie mistake. Examples of this are:

 

Holt has quite plainly been affected by Linehan's offense. After a superb 6 year run where Holt amassed at least 1300 receiving yards every year, he dropped off significantly by 18% of his previous 6 years' production average. While one could argue a reversion to his mean & that Holt may bounce back with a better 2007, like Manning's reversion to his 28 TD average, one can also look at Linehan's O & that Holt's receptions are low for him as are his ypr. Under Linehan it's simply unrealistic to expect 100+ catches at 14+ ypr. A 1100 yd season will probably become the norm as Linehan goes to a more run oriented O and starts to build his D. In other words, signs clearly point to STL becoming more conservative, and that doesn't bode well for Holt, while it does enhance Steven Jackson.

 

Anyone watching Harrison last year can easily see that he is slowing down. Where he always has drawn (and beaten) double coverage, he is getting to the point where one decent CB can account for him. He's 35 going on 36 this August, and while he was very productive this past season, that probably can be attributed to the emergence of Reggie Wayne as an elite WR. While Harrison still figures to glean some numbers off of Wayne's success, Wayne is the guy to have with Manning throwing right now. Harrison ain't going to start suddenly getting younger.

 

Travis Henry was a pleasant surprise last year, no doubt. Here's his biggest caveat, though: LenDale White is still on the roster. As long as there is a high draft pick sharing the duties, Henry's production has a relatively low ceiling for a team's #1 RB, much less going in the 2nd round. TEN ownership is at least going to see what White can do - which means he's going to get significant carries unless he turns into a complete turd. I'd be shocked to see anywhere near 270 touches again - I'd guess closer to 230-240 carries is more likely. That drops his likely production by 16%, give or take, if you consider that his ypc will probably drop back to his norm (that reversion from a career high thing again). That puts him into a bundle of low #2/decent #3 FF RB range, but hardly 2nd round material.

 

Don't even get me started with a CoP RB who has a very good vet RB along side him (remember when McAllister was a top 5 FF pick?) sharing the load going in the 1st...

 

 

man, i agree with every word you said. i still like a lot of those players next year, but not quite as high as this guy is suggesting for exactly the reasons you point out.

[Pope Flick]

man, i agree with every word you said. i still like a lot of those players next year, but not quite as high as this guy is suggesting for exactly the reasons you point out.

 

 

 

It really IS the classic noob error. You don't draft for last year, but for next year.

[isleseeya]

for me Stephen Jackson is the # 2 for sure ...i had LJ last year and he was great , but he had a ton of carries took a ton of pounding ...I think SJAX will continue to get better and offers more at this stage than LJ

[dabuffbills]

why would someone take Manning at #5? I know he's a good QB, but I just don't understand why people would take QBs that high

[peteteacher2001]

Let the noobies look at this and take some creedence in it. I think we all have a good handle on what we think will happen, albeit different opinions.

[Randall]

for me Stephen Jackson is the # 2 for sure ...i had LJ last year and he was great , but he had a ton of carries took a ton of pounding ...I think SJAX will continue to get better and offers more at this stage than LJ

 

 

 

They also said he with be the centeriece of their passing offense. LJ could improve if Green improves of Huard starts, but it's too early to tell.

 

I'll take Boldin in the 3rd round.

[Delicious_bass]

I googled Michael Fabiano, since I didn’t know who the hell he was. Now I know why:

Michael Fabiano, 31, has been a prominent member of CBS SportsLine.com's coverage of Fantasy sports since 2000.

 

NFL.com is proud to welcome NFL fantasy guru Michael Fabiano, one of the most experienced and respected fantasy football minds in the business.

 

Why would any site seeking credibilty with the FF crowd pick any of the plums off the CBS Sportsline crew?

 

Talk about your oxymorons. Or is that oxymorans..?

 

Exactly! That douchesack is worthless when it comes to real fantasy insight, and it never ceases to amaze me that he not only has a job but is also regarded as some sort of "guru". The same can be said for most of CBS' gaggle of 'tards that pollute the site with ignorance.

 

I would wager that the average Huddle member would give as good advice or better than these fools. I'd go further saying many Huddlers would destroy Fabiano and Co in actual fantasy leagues.

[Savage Beatings]

They also said he with be the centeriece of their passing offense. LJ could improve if Green improves of Huard starts, but it's too early to tell.

 

I'll take Boldin in the 3rd round.

 

 

Drunk again?

[Randall]

Drunk again?

 

 

 

Not yet. What I meant to say is SJax will be the centerpiece of the passing offense.

 

The round the clock Anna Nicole Smith radio and internet coverage is distracting. Geez.

[piratesownninjas]

I know it's a wait and see kind of situation, but Kevin Jones at #27 (high 3rd round pick) seems way too high for a guy who might miss significant playing time next year.

 

There are conflicting reports on how long Kevin Jones will be out. I tend to beleive mlive.com more than national writers. People try and compare it to Tedy Lehmans injury. The only real similarity between there injuries is basically the name of said injury. After that, its completley different. With Lehman, he was misdiagnosed and walked on it for close to a month, which further complicated his injury. With Kevin Jones the original diagnosis was the correct one. Kevin Jones had the surgery prior to the seasons end, and from what I've read from Mlive, the Lions brass and Jones himself, he seems to be exactly where they thought he would be at this point, and that is on time for the season opener.

[piratesownninjas]

They also said he with be the centeriece of their passing offense. LJ could improve if Green improves of Huard starts, but it's too early to tell.

 

I'll take Boldin in the 3rd round.

 

 

 

Drunk again?

 

 

 

Not yet. What I meant to say is SJax will be the centerpiece of the passing offense.

 

The round the clock Anna Nicole Smith radio and internet coverage is distracting. Geez.

 

[CEO of the Barefoots]

 

Anyone watching Harrison last year can easily see that he is slowing down. Where he always has drawn (and beaten) double coverage, he is getting to the point where one decent CB can account for him. He's 35 going on 36 this August, and while he was very productive this past season, that probably can be attributed to the emergence of Reggie Wayne as an elite WR. While Harrison still figures to glean some numbers off of Wayne's success, Wayne is the guy to have with Manning throwing right now. Harrison ain't going to start suddenly getting younger.

 

 

 

Harrison is 34 and will be 35 in August. Just a little math I worked out by subtracting 1972 from 2007. Additionally, he just posted his fifth best yardage year and his best since 2002. His 95 rec. 1366 yards and 12 TD's out pace Wayne in every category. I am not questioing Wayne's success but if you think for a moment he is clearing the way for Marvin Harrison then you clearly have the matrix reversed.