theeohiostate Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 If you get an email from Brian Harwood, delete it. This clown has been parading around message boards and sending out thousands upon thousands of emails for people to join his leagues............ Only problem is, when you join and pay your entry fee you'll notice the total collected and total payouts don't match at all. He's charging $70 to run his league, plus he's playing in them free. That's well over $100 he's banking from morans like me that decided to give his league a try. I posted my thoughts about this, i expect he'll boot me from his league and steal my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Wow!! That's pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piles Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well if that is the case then this tool probably won't pay out at all and just bank it all.... Sorry you got stuck but thank you for spreading the word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So you just sent him money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcoach Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well, I've been running a local league for some years and wanted to give away the commissioner's spot to someone in the league. After 16yrs. it gets to be a little much. I wanted to just sit back and play without all the BS. The owners wanted me to stay on mainly because nobody wanted to do the little bit of work involved so I said I would or the league would have been over. When I handed my money to the tres. he handed it back and said they took a vote and I don't pay so, I guess in a way I'm kinda guilty of the same thing. I don't charge but, kind of guess since I don't pay, I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well, I've been running a local league for some years and wanted to give away the commissioner's spot to someone in the league. After 16yrs. it gets to be a little much. I wanted to just sit back and play without all the BS. The owners wanted me to stay on mainly because nobody wanted to do the little bit of work involved so I said I would or the league would have been over. When I handed my money to the tres. he handed it back and said they took a vote and I don't pay so, I guess in a way I'm kinda guilty of the same thing. I don't charge but, kind of guess since I don't pay, I do. Big difference. The league said you didn't have to. Your not hiding behind the fine print, it's all out in the open. Good for you, a good commish should get a small fee, but to not disclose the information is where i have the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeye Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I read somewhere else about him (not sure where), but it also added that he had like 10 different leagues he was doing this in. Also, he is doing the same in fabtasy baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Big difference. The league said you didn't have to. Your not hiding behind the fine print, it's all out in the open. Good for you, a good commish should get a small fee, but to not disclose the information is where i have the problem So his pratices were spelled out, be the print fine or not? I don't agree with him MAKING money in addition to playing for free but you seem to indicate you just didn't read the fine print and now are wishing you had. Big difference in you inferring he is a crook. Take a vote and veto it, you're good at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So you just sent him money? You just sent me money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Is he in the Find a League / Find an Owner Forum here at the Huddle at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Wow. Sneaky but you have to admit it's an easy way to make some quick money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Rats. Now I need to go change my name on all those e-mails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I'd say a token threat to report him to his state's gaming commissioner should prompt a quick refund. I believe what he is doing would be considered gaming in most jurisdictions, which is why most commissioners don't take a cut of the action or try to participate themselves without paying equal consideration [and certainly aren't stupid enough to broadcast it if they are, in some small informal league]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I'd say a token threat to report him to his state's gaming commissioner should prompt a quick refund. I believe what he is doing would be considered gaming in most jurisdictions, which is why most commissioners don't take a cut of the action or try to participate themselves without paying equal consideration [and certainly aren't stupid enough to broadcast it if they are, in some small informal league]. Yep. Take him to school, TOS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 You just sent me money... I've read the rules and payouts. From reading this there's also no way this guy would've had much of a post count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I'd say a token threat to report him to his state's gaming commissioner should prompt a quick refund. I believe what he is doing would be considered gaming in most jurisdictions, which is why most commissioners don't take a cut of the action or try to participate themselves without paying equal consideration [and certainly aren't stupid enough to broadcast it if they are, in some small informal league]. To add to this: if he's collecting ANY money from someone outside his state it becomes Federal, not just the in-state gaming commission. Now, there may or may not be a Fed law against this, but does he know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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