forever in debt to mo lewis Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 top rated CB or top rated S. Most will go CB over S every time. yeah but in this case...landry is clearly the best safety in this crop...head and shoulders above....and hes just a better prospect than hall...in all honesty, leon hall may be ready to come in and play from day one, but i think eric wright will be just as good if not better than hall.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 So you are saying he could develop into Kyle Vanden Bosch. I dont see it, he isnt great at anything excpet stopping the run. He isnt that quick off the end, isnt powerful enough to blow up OT at the next level. But then again, Kampman wasnt either initially either, and he has turned himself into a probowler. I think he could develop into a Grant Wistrom. Wistrom's production and contribution beyond what he brought to the table directly through his own stats were worthy of a 1st round pick in the mid/late 1st round of an NFL draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmypg Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Branch falling to 20 would make me very happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I think he could develop into a Grant Wistrom. Wistrom's production and contribution beyond what he brought to the table directly through his own stats were worthy of a 1st round pick in the mid/late 1st round of an NFL draft. Don't bash me for my lack of DE knowledge, but wasn't Wistrom considered more of a pass rusher than a run-stopper? I like Sarge's Kampman comparison a little better in relation to Carriker. Not saying he will be as good, but could develop into a similar player given the right situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Don't bash me for my lack of DE knowledge, but wasn't Wistrom considered more of a pass rusher than a run-stopper? I like Sarge's Kampman comparison a little better in relation to Carriker. Not saying he will be as good, but could develop into a similar player given the right situation. Wistrom was a very good 2 way end. He was big & strong enough to anchor the end of the line against the run while generating enough rush to affect the passing game. When he was healthy, he was a very tough character for an O to deal with & didn't have to leave the field for a specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted April 20, 2007 Author Share Posted April 20, 2007 Wistrom was considered the best DE in that draft and was known as a high motor guy. Wasnt Wistrom like the #6 pick in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I know you don't like La. football but Landry is from LSU not La. Tech. you know LSU the team that beat the sooners and won the National Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Bowe for the Jets would surprise, but not shock me. I think if any of the four top CB's are there at 25, that's how they will go. In this mock, Ross is still there, and unless for some reason they don't like him, that would be my guess. I've see a few 2 round mocks that have the NYJ taking Hughes in the second, but I really didn't like the film I've seen on him. Very stiff in the hips, almost trips over his own feet in the backpedal when changing direction. The Jets do need a deep threat WR, and be the eventual replacement for Coles in a year or two, I agree with that, but Cotchery isn't going to lose playing time to any rook in this draft the Jets might select. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I am surprised to see you have SD picking a DE at #30. Most pundits have the Bolts picking a safety or WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I know you don't like La. football but Landry is from LSU not La. Tech. you know LSU the team that beat the sooners and won the National Championship. Don't blame him -- he copied the text from my mock, in which I somehow had "Tech." listed for every LSU player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzkek Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 I think the Eagles would take Michael Griffin, S, Texas over Meriweather. Could be wrong, just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Green Bays most pressing need is RB, and why gamble on someone later, when you can have a #1 type back right here. Lynch didnt put up amazing numbers, character issues, and a lot of depth in this years draft. He just doesnt fit the Ted Thompson prospect. I still have a feeling its a db... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I also think that TT is high on Morency... He had an impressive career, and outside of the Rams game, he was good. I see them taking a bruising back in the 2nd or 3rd to pair with Morency. RBBC is the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 BTW, could you imagine if Carolina took Ginn. Smith and ginn on the same field would be a nightmare for any defense. Then put Carter in the slot, and as Mick said to Rock about chasing them chickens-"ta catch a chicken ya gotta have speed, greasy fast speed...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Then put Carter in the slot, and as Mick said to Rock about chasing them chickens-"ta catch a chicken ya gotta have speed, greasy fast speed...." Those 3 would definately be sick. I could see this offense exploding if it had a QB who could get them the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicster Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 2. TBB - (from DET) – Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech. 11. SF – Ted Ginn Jr., WR, Ohio St. 22. DAL – Dwayne Jarrett. WR USC 25. NYJ – Dwayne Bowe, WR, Louisiana Tech. 28. NEP – Robert Meachem, WR, Tenn 31. CHI – Sidney Rice, WR, S CAR Before I begin, I do not know enough to say whether these are good picks or not. I don't watch enough college ball to be able to offer anything in this area. My question is really more of an observation. Most of the mocks that I've seen thus far have 5 receivers being taken in the first round. Personally, with all the questions surrounding some of these players, I find it hard to believe that so many will be taken this high. I would almost bet that only 3 go in the first, and that teams will go with better value at other positions before drafting some of these receivers with their first pick. But, as I qualified earlier, I don't have enough knowledge in this area as Sarge and others, and so this would only be a hunch rather than an actuality. Am I way off here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Before I begin, I do not know enough to say whether these are good picks or not. I don't watch enough college ball to be able to offer anything in this area. My question is really more of an observation. Most of the mocks that I've seen thus far have 5 receivers being taken in the first round. Personally, with all the questions surrounding some of these players, I find it hard to believe that so many will be taken this high. I would almost bet that only 3 go in the first, and that teams will go with better value at other positions before drafting some of these receivers with their first pick. But, as I qualified earlier, I don't have enough knowledge in this area as Sarge and others, and so this would only be a hunch rather than an actuality. Am I way off here?? I think it comes down to need more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Before I begin, I do not know enough to say whether these are good picks or not. I don't watch enough college ball to be able to offer anything in this area. My question is really more of an observation. Most of the mocks that I've seen thus far have 5 receivers being taken in the first round. Personally, with all the questions surrounding some of these players, I find it hard to believe that so many will be taken this high. I would almost bet that only 3 go in the first, and that teams will go with better value at other positions before drafting some of these receivers with their first pick. But, as I qualified earlier, I don't have enough knowledge in this area as Sarge and others, and so this would only be a hunch rather than an actuality. Am I way off here?? I understand what you are saying, but this draft is deep with good WR's and DE/OLB tweeners, with something of a shortage at most other positions. It looks like there might only be 2 RB's in the first round, maybe only 2 classic 4-3 LB's and only one TE. 6 DB's are first rounders if you include Merriweather. If teams go more BPA, I can see six WR's off the board. Sure, some players like Ginn have their detractors, but he'll still go early. This may be the deepest WR draft in a long time, but short in the other skill positions. Personally, I think in last year's draft, Joe Thomas would have been lucky to be in the top ten. Now he's a lock for top five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 This draft is thick with solid WR's and safeties. I think you could see players at these positions fall further than expected, with the exception of CJ and Landry. I'd be really shocked if Carolina took Reggie Nelson in the first, my guess for them is Levi Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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