Packers After LJ?

[Stingers]

If I were Ted Thompson - I would much rather go after Turner than LJ. I think Turner would fit Green Bay's scheme much better than LJ. I personally don't see it happening either way.

[muck]

Obveously no RBs run exactly the same, I'm simply saying they have the same body type, and I have seen similarities in the ways they run.

 

 

huh? LJ is 2 inches taller (which is a lot for an RB), and 15-20 pounds heavier. the tape i've seen on lynch reminds me nothing of LJ.

 

 

Maybe when he says "same body type" he means they both have two legs, two arms, etc... as opposed to specifics on height, weight, speed, etc.

[Bronco Billy]

Maybe when he says "same body type" he means they both have two legs, two arms, etc... as opposed to specifics on height, weight, speed, etc.

 

 

[Caveman_Nick]

If I were Ted Thompson - I would much rather go after Turner than LJ. I think Turner would fit Green Bay's scheme much better than LJ. I personally don't see it happening either way.

 

 

 

You'd rather have the unproven guy for roughly the same price as one of the proven top backs in the league?

 

[muck]

If I were Ted Thompson - I would much rather go after Turner than LJ. I think Turner would fit Green Bay's scheme much better than LJ. I personally don't see it happening either way.

 

 

Let me guess ... you own Turner in a dynasty league ... right?

[piratesownninjas]

You'd rather have the unproven guy for roughly the same price as one of the proven top backs in the league?

 

 

A guy who is more than three years younger, not a lockerroom problem and won't demand an 7/70mil deal?

Is that really so crazy?

[theprofessor]

:confused:

 

I would beg to differ a bit on that claim...

 

I agree with BB here. Terrible comparison.

[Bronco Billy]

A guy who is more than three years younger, not a lockerroom problem and won't demand an 7/70mil deal?

Is that really so crazy?

 

Yes.

[Hat Trick]

A guy who is more than three years younger, not a lockerroom problem and won't demand an 7/70mil deal?

Is that really so crazy?

 

Actually he wants 80 million

[theprofessor]

If Im KC, I ask for GB's 1st and WR G Jennings for LJ. then I draft Marshawn to replace LJ, and use their first on a OL. They solve 3 positions for 1 player and their current draft pick. I then load up on OL the next 2 rounds, with my picks and the pick I get for Trent Green. the defense will have to wait a yr, as its a weak crop all the way around outside round 1.

 

If I was Green Bay I wouldn't deal Jennings. I think he's a star by 2008. I would try to give up a 1st and a 4th and if that isn't enough throw in a 4th in 2008.

[Hat Trick]

Local news just reported on this rumor. Both teams have denied the trade rumor. LJ was asked today over sirus radio and he stated that he had heard the rumors and that he wants to stay in KC, and that he has a good relationship with Clark Hunt. He's seeking a 80 million deal which supposedly would make him the highest paid RB in the NFL.

 

Take it for what its worth but this appears to be a rumor and nothing else.

 

And now this as well.

 

Per ESPN:

 

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs quickly dispelled rumors they are shopping Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson before this weekend's NFL draft.

 

Team spokesman Bob Moore said Thursday the Chiefs have not offered Johnson to anybody and that no team has been given permission to speak with him.

 

Larry Johnson

Running Back

Kansas City Chiefs

 

Profile

2006 SEASON STATISTICS

Rush Yds TD Rec Yds TD

416 1789 17 41 410 2

 

 

"Anybody who is reporting it's true is simply not telling the truth," Moore said.

 

Johnson, 27, has been participating in the Chiefs' offseason program, but is entering the final year of his contract. He has made it clear he wants a deal worth more than the eight-year, $60 million contract San Diego Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson signed two years ago.

 

Rumors that Kansas City wants to trade the brooding back, who carried the ball an NFL-record 416 times last season, surfaced as the team scrambles to acquire draft picks. The Kansas City Star, without citing a source, reported Thursday that the team had offered Johnson up for trade.

 

Johnson's agent, Alvin Keels, said Thursday he preferred not to comment.

 

Kansas City unloaded return specialist Dante Hall to the St. Louis Rams for a fifth-round pick Wednesday, falling in line with coach Herm Edwards' desire for a more youthful roster built via the draft.

 

"When you have a veteran football team, that's very, very good," Edwards said recently. "But at the end of the day, you have to acquire young players along the way."

 

The Chiefs invited four running backs -- California's Marshawn Lynch, Ohio State's Antonio Pittman, Florida State's Lorenzo Booker and Louisville's Kolby Smith -- for interviews, and have said they are willing to draft a running back in the early rounds.

 

Trading Johnson would make sense to those who view the Chiefs as undertaking a major rebuilding effort.

 

Kansas City is poised to start the season with untested second-year quarterback Brodie Croyle and journeyman Damon Huard, who played well last season when Trent Green missed parts of eight games with a concussion.

 

The offensive line is full of holes, after the retirement of 11-time Pro Bowl tackle Willie Roaf last season and 12-time Pro Bowl guard Will Shields earlier this month. The wide receiving corps has little depth behind aging Eddie Kennison, and defensive tackle and defensive back remain areas of concern.

 

Johnson's value has never been higher, either. After rushing for 1,750 yards and 20 touchdowns in 2005, he gained 1,789 yards and had 17 touchdowns last season. His 2,199 yards from scrimmage accounted for 43 percent of the Chiefs' total offense.

 

"He's still a guy in his prime," said former Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly, who believes the Chiefs will sign Johnson to a contract extension. "I don't know what they could get to replace him. Certainly a draft choice isn't going to replace him."

 

Another way the Chiefs could acquire more draft picks is by dealing Green, the two-time Pro Bowl selection who returned from his concussion midway through last season but never played at the same level.

 

The Miami Dolphins have reached a tentative agreement with Green, who will be 37 when training camp opens. But the teams have not agreed on compensation, and it is becoming increasingly unlikely a trade will be done by the start of the draft.

 

The Chiefs are seeking a second-round pick and a late-round pick for Green.

Edited April 26, 2007 by Hat Trick

[muck]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs quickly dispelled rumors they are shopping Pro Bowl running back Larry Johnson before this weekend's NFL draft.

 

He's definately gone.

 

Team spokesman Bob Moore said Thursday the Chiefs have not offered Johnson to anybody and that no team has been given permission to speak with him.

 

"Anybody who is reporting it's true is simply not telling the truth," Moore said.

 

There is no way they're trading him.

 

Johnson's agent, Alvin Keels, said Thursday he preferred not to comment.

 

He's finalizing a deal with some other team as I type.

 

The Chiefs invited four running backs -- California's Marshawn Lynch, Ohio State's Antonio Pittman, Florida State's Lorenzo Booker and Louisville's Kolby Smith -- for interviews, and have said they are willing to draft a running back in the early rounds.

 

He's as good as gone.

 

Trading Johnson would make sense to those who view the Chiefs as undertaking a major rebuilding effort.

 

The offensive line is full of holes, after the retirement of 11-time Pro Bowl tackle Willie Roaf last season and 12-time Pro Bowl guard Will Shields earlier this month. The wide receiving corps has little depth behind aging Eddie Kennison, and defensive tackle and defensive back remain areas of concern.

 

Johnson's value has never been higher, either. After rushing for 1,750 yards and 20 touchdowns in 2005, he gained 1,789 yards and had 17 touchdowns last season. His 2,199 yards from scrimmage accounted for 43 percent of the Chiefs' total offense.

 

+1, probably house shopping somewhere

 

"He's still a guy in his prime," said former Houston Texans general manager Charley Casserly, who believes the Chiefs will sign Johnson to a contract extension. "I don't know what they could get to replace him. Certainly a draft choice isn't going to replace him."

 

There is no way the Chiefs are trading their best player. Is Marshawn Lynch (or any other player in this draft really going to replace his impact on the Chiefs? He's staying put.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2007 by muck

[Chavez]

I'm sure Lynch's back problem will scare many teams away. Considering his character issues, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Lynch drops way below what he's being projected.

 

The latest mocks hitting have had Lynch not only NOT being the consensus #16 by the Pack but falling out of the first round COMPLETELY. FWTW.

[The Wolf]

The latest mocks hitting have had Lynch not only NOT being the consensus #16 by the Pack but falling out of the first round COMPLETELY. FWTW.

 

 

I am not a betting man but do not see any way he gets by three teams in dire need of a RB: GB. BUF, TEN.

[Swiss Cheezhead]

Maybe a KC fan can correct me, but isn't LJ more of a down hill runner? More flow to the edge than make a cut against the grain? He's obviously a talented guy, but he doesn't seem to be the one-cut guy to fit the scheme.

 

KC guys

 

 

I have to respectfully disagree, Fatman. If I put together a short list of the best downhill, one-cut NFL runners, LJ would probably be right at the top. In a zone scheme, you basically just can't have happy feet behind the line of scrimmage. LJ's not a "dancer" by any means, and I think he'd look GREAT in green 'n' gold.

[Caveman_Nick]

A guy who is more than three years younger, not a lockerroom problem and won't demand an 7/70mil deal?

Is that really so crazy?

 

 

2 years younger, and still unproven.

[Randall]

I have to respectfully disagree, Fatman. If I put together a short list of the best downhill, one-cut NFL runners, LJ would probably be right at the top. In a zone scheme, you basically just can't have happy feet behind the line of scrimmage. LJ's not a "dancer" by any means, and I think he'd look GREAT in green 'n' gold.

 

 

 

I do too, but doubt if it'll happen.

[Stingers]

Let me guess ... you own Turner in a dynasty league ... right?

 

 

Actually I don't. I just like what I see about Turner and think he would fit well in Green Bay - better than LJ. Turner is younger and has less wear and tear than LJ.

[rattsass]

From a business standpoint the Chiefs are trying to make all the right moves. But from a fans perspective, it sure will look ugly when it hits the field in September.

 

But lets face it, what they have been doing hasn't worked. Its going to be painful but the best thing may be to blow it up and start over while they still have enough ammo to do the job.

 

Not so sure Green Bay is looking for a one year fix though, so I don't really give a whole lot of creedence to this one.

[Men In Tights]

Wow, the Packers are going to be awesome with LJ and Randy Moss next year...

 

Regardless of what they do they will still be better than the Vikings next year.

[piratesownninjas]

2 years younger, and still unproven.

 

I wouldnt say unproven. I'd say he's done great in limited work. He'll also be about 40 million cheaper and not a lockerroom problem.

[SuperChiefs]

I am not a betting man but do not see any way he gets by three teams in dire need of a RB: GB. BUF, TEN.

 

I am a betting man, and I agree. Marshawn falling to the second round is simply absurd. Whatever "unnamed source" predicted that, just toss out any other fantasy advice they give for the rest of the year.

 

SuperChiefs / John

[SuperChiefs]

From a business standpoint the Chiefs are trying to make all the right moves. But from a fans perspective, it sure will look ugly when it hits the field in September.

 

But lets face it, what they have been doing hasn't worked. Its going to be painful but the best thing may be to blow it up and start over while they still have enough ammo to do the job.

 

Not so sure Green Bay is looking for a one year fix though, so I don't really give a whole lot of creedence to this one.

 

As a fan in Kansas City, trust me that a large number of us would not mind a retooling of the team. Many of us are frustrated by the fact that the management has sat by and let the team get old -- especailly the offensive line -- without doing anything about it. I don't even think most fans would mind a trade of LJ -- IF, and that's a big IF on purpose, IF team management makes the right moves.

 

If this seems like an extraordinary change of direction, remember that team ownership has changed -- still in the family, but a different person at the helm. On the other hand, if it doesn't work, then count on King Carl being ridden out of town on a rail.

 

Now, all this being said -- I personally expect LJ to still be here in 2007. I think the deal for Trent Green gets done for a 4th round draft pick. And I think that one of the second day picks for the Chiefs may be a sleeper RB with speed that can spell LJ better than Bennett ever will -- and that new RB will be brought up under LJ the way that LJ was brought up under Priest.

 

SuperChiefs / John

[The Next Generation]

If I were Ted Thompson - I would much rather go after Turner than LJ. I think Turner would fit Green Bay's scheme much better than LJ. I personally don't see it happening either way.

 

 

Report: Chargers trading RB Turner soon

Written by: Jim Wyatt ¦ 4/27/2007

Source: www.tennessean.com

 

The Chargers are prepared to trade running back Michael Turner in the near future after receiving an acceptable contract offer from another team, ESPN reported on Friday.

 

According to the report, an unidentified team has offered the Chargers a first-round pick in the 2008 draft, and San Diego is willing to accept the deal.

 

The Titans, Bills and Packers are among the teams who've expressed an interest in Turner, although San Diego General Manager A.J. Smith has said other teams are also interested.

 

Titans officials could not immediately be reached for comment on Friday. Agent Bus Cook, who represents Turner, said it was news to him.

 

"I have no idea. If (the Chargers) have, they haven't talked to me about it,'' Cook said. "If it's true, somebody has to call me to tell me about it.''

 

Asked which team it might be, Cook could only speculate

 

"I don't have a clue, unless it's the Titans, but I don't know,'' Cook said. "But they haven't called me about it. I haven't heard from anybody.''

http://www.tennessean.com/

 

Per J. Clayton, it's the Packers. Sorry no link for the Clayton info.

 

Report: Packers most likely to land Chargers RB Turner

Written by: - ffLiveWire - ¦ 4/27/2007

Source:

FFLW is reporting that the Packers are rumored to be the likely landing spot for Chargers RB Michael Turner. Strong sources are saying that the deal will include the first round pick for 2008.

Edited April 27, 2007 by The Next Generation

[Stingers]

Report: Chargers trading RB Turner soon

Written by: Jim Wyatt ¦ 4/27/2007

Source: www.tennessean.com

 

The Chargers are prepared to trade running back Michael Turner in the near future after receiving an acceptable contract offer from another team, ESPN reported on Friday.

 

According to the report, an unidentified team has offered the Chargers a first-round pick in the 2008 draft, and San Diego is willing to accept the deal.

 

The Titans, Bills and Packers are among the teams who've expressed an interest in Turner, although San Diego General Manager A.J. Smith has said other teams are also interested.

 

Titans officials could not immediately be reached for comment on Friday. Agent Bus Cook, who represents Turner, said it was news to him.

 

"I have no idea. If (the Chargers) have, they haven't talked to me about it,'' Cook said. "If it's true, somebody has to call me to tell me about it.''

 

Asked which team it might be, Cook could only speculate

 

"I don't have a clue, unless it's the Titans, but I don't know,'' Cook said. "But they haven't called me about it. I haven't heard from anybody.''

http://www.tennessean.com/

 

Per J. Clayton, it's the Packers. Sorry no link for the Clayton info.

 

Report: Packers most likely to land Chargers RB Turner

Written by: - ffLiveWire - ¦ 4/27/2007

Source:

FFLW is reporting that the Packers are rumored to be the likely landing spot for Chargers RB Michael Turner. Strong sources are saying that the deal will include the first round pick for 2008.