Zooty Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Wondering what the consensus is on these guys Willis- Wowed everyone but landed in a 3-4 scheme. Will he end up like D. Edwards or J. Vilma? Timmons- Also landed in a 3-4 (for now). Appears to slated at OLB. The next Merriman/ Ware? Beason- Looks to start at WLB until Morgan gets another concussion then could move to MLB Posluzney- Still up in the air as to OLB or ILB but BUF LBs have been very productive in fantasy. Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Zooty you don't want those guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Voted for Poz just cause he has the shot at playing MLB...allthough I'm hoping it will be Willis or Beason :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Everyone seems to be making the assumption that Poz will play MLB. Crowell has played there before and done so pretty damn well. Poz might just be the guy moving to the outside. And I would find it unfathomable that SF wouldn't wouldn't put a LB as talented as Willis - and drafted as high as Willis - in a position where he'd be limited on D. I have heard rumors that he might be battling with Derek Smith for his spot rather than playing alongside him. That would make sense to me, especially given that Smith has 10 years in the league already & the drop in his tackle numbers last season (yes, I know he was hurt, but he was hurt for 4 games & his tackles were down from his 4 year average by 40%). Injuries are starting to affect Smith's playing time, having missed 5 games and being ineffective in another in the past 3 years after only missing 2 games in the previous 7 years. We'll see, Poz could be the real deal, but I see Willis as being in the right spot right now and having a higher pro upside than Poz. Edited May 10, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicster Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Everyone seems to be making the assumption that Poz will play MLB. Crowell has played there before and done so pretty damn well. Poz might just be the guy moving to the outside. This is why I voted for Beason. I'm not sold that Morgan will be able to come back and keep himself in there the entire season. Beason will start at WLB and if anything happens to Morgan will move to the middle and put up very nice FF numbers. I have also heard that Crowell will man the middle and Poz will be on the outside. In the end, I think the difference may be negligible, but I would bank on Beason over Poz right now. As far as Willis goes, I just don't know enough about the situation there to make a call. Derek Smith has been steady but not outstanding there. Willis could make a huge difference there, but if the DL can't keep people off of him, exactly how effective can he be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 As far as Willis goes, I just don't know enough about the situation there to make a call. Derek Smith has been steady but not outstanding there. Willis could make a huge difference there, but if the DL can't keep people off of him, exactly how effective can he be? :confused: Derek Smith put up 4 years where he averaged 113 tackles before last season. If he can do that - and I'm a big Smith fan, BTW - I find it hard to believe that 113 tackles isn't the baseline for anything Willis will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robash Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 well i hope you both are right, i look forward to years of starting Morrison, Willis, and Beason every sunday in a LB heavy league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicster Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 :confused: Derek Smith put up 4 years where he averaged 113 tackles before last season. If he can do that - and I'm a big Smith fan, BTW - I find it hard to believe that 113 tackles isn't the baseline for anything Willis will do. I'm sure Willis will make a lot of tackles. But I thought it was a combination of injuries and the DL not being able to keep the blockers from getting to the second level that added to Smith not being as effective. Seems if he's having to take on blocks by the larger offensive lineman, it wears on him. I've had Smith on my dynasty team for 4 years now, I like the guy as well. Just curious how much of Willis is hype and how much is true. If I remember correctly, prior to the combine, wasn't Willis projected to be the second or 3rd best linebacker of the bunch? I truly may be wrong and I apologize if I am. Just for some reason remember the pre-combine rankings not having him as high as he ended up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 If I remember correctly, prior to the combine, wasn't Willis projected to be the second or 3rd best linebacker of the bunch? I truly may be wrong and I apologize if I am. Just for some reason remember the pre-combine rankings not having him as high as he ended up. Willis has been the #1 LB in this draft for as long as I remember draft talk getting serious. The guy didn't make his bones at the combine, he slam dunked a superb college career there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 I'm having a hard time figuring out why Timmons was the 2nd LB drafted and 15th overall but there is no love for him as an IDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I'm having a hard time figuring out why Timmons was the 2nd LB drafted and 15th overall but there is no love for him as an IDP. Where's he going to play and what's his role? Not nearly as defined as the other players listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted May 11, 2007 Author Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) Where's he going to play and what's his role? Not nearly as defined as the other players listed. P. Willis - SF [ 3 ] ** [27.27%]L. Timmons - PIT [ 1 ] ** [9.09%] J. Beason - CAR [ 2 ] ** [18.18%] P. Posluzney - BUF [ 5 ] ** [45.45%] Other [ 0 ] ** [0.00%] Someone likes him Edited May 11, 2007 by Zooty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Someone likes him If it's any consolation, I didn't vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 I'm having a hard time figuring out why Timmons was the 2nd LB drafted and 15th overall but there is no love for him as an IDP. He more than likely plays OLB, which in a 3-4 defense doesnt rack up the stats, really. But then again, there has also been talk of him moving insde, just a question of which defense (3-4, 4-3, hybrid) and which inside spot. Like gts sad, there are too many questions for most to spend a high pick on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 (edited) Buffalo can stud 2 LBs in their scheme. Last yr before Crowell got hurt, it was he and Flethcer. This yr, I like Poz ability to score more than Willis just because Willis is likely to play in a 3-4, which outside of Farrior and Donnie, this hasnt been as productive than Poz playing either weakside or Middle for Buffalo. Edited May 11, 2007 by Sgt. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted May 11, 2007 Share Posted May 11, 2007 Where's he going to play and what's his role? Not nearly as defined as the other players listed. Timmons is already listed as the starting ROLB. Woodley is competing for the starting spot as the LOLB. PIT has had all 4 starting LBs in the top 25 of FF LBs in the past - I could see a return to those times with this crew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Willis has been the #1 LB in this draft for as long as I remember draft talk getting serious. The guy didn't make his bones at the combine, he slam dunked a superb college career there. When he ran sub 4.4 at his pro day he hit a home run. A 4.37 ILB and hitting like this? And running like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted May 20, 2007 Share Posted May 20, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 You're supposed to say Posluzney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 You're supposed to say Posluzney. I voted for Willis And I'm surprised that he is 2nd also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I voted for Willis And I'm surprised that he is 2nd also Poz seems to be in the better situation but who is better should be interesting. If Beason becomes ROY that other Bastage commissioner will look pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I'm having a hard time figuring out why Timmons was the 2nd LB drafted and 15th overall but there is no love for him as an IDP. Like Joey Porter - Hit or miss every week. If you owned Porter, you will know what I mean. More hype than substance, and the scheme dictates a players opportunities. Timmons playing outside LB in a 3-4 isnt an idea situation at all. Now if he went to a team that plays straight cover 2, and he is the weak side backer, he becomes very valuable. Time will tell on which D Pitt ends up with, not just this yr but future years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DO Jaded Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I voted Willis, as I just took him at 1.11 in a 12 team IDP Dynasty draft. Poz was taken 1.12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DO Jaded Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I voted Willis, as I just took him at 1.11 in a 12 team IDP Dynasty draft. Poz was taken 1.12. Just took Beason 2.5. Hoping at least one (if not 2) from Wills/Beason become top 10 LBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DO Jaded Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 well i hope you both are right, i look forward to years of starting Morrison, Willis, and Beason every sunday in a LB heavy league I'm looking the same, with C.June and E. Sims as bye fillers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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