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Regardless of how the Corey Simon saga is resolved, it will remain a hefty financial investment for the Indianapolis Colts.

Team president Bill Polian said Monday the team still is gathering information regarding the health of the veteran defensive tackle and has yet to make a decision on his status for the 2007 season. However, the Colts have been unsuccessful in an attempt to recover an $8 million option bonus paid Simon prior to last season as part of the five-year, $30 million contract he signed as a free agent in 2005.

Polian described the decision as a "procedural issue'' determined by a similar case involving former Denver wide receiver Ashley Lelie. Based on language in the new labor agreement, the Broncos were unable to recover an option bonus paid to Lelie. A special master ruled in Lelie's favor in November, and a March appeal affirmed that decision.

The Colts had filed documents seeking repayment from Simon, but the Lelie decision rendered the team's actions invalid. The Colts and the league had agreed to abide by the outcome of the Lelie situation.

Two additional grievances involving the Colts and Simon are expected to be heard in June. They center around the team's decisions to place Simon on the league's non-football illness/injury list last October because of an undisclosed illness and not pay him $1.9 million of his $2.5 million base salary.

Repeated attempts to contact Simon and his agent, Roosevelt Barnes, have been unsuccessful.

The team has been noncommittal regarding Simon's status. Signs indicate he has played his final game in Indy. The most telling might have occurred when the Colts were in Miami for Super Bowl XLI against the Chicago Bears.

During daily gatherings with the media, every player under contract was made available, including those on the injured reserve list (Brandon Stokley, Montae Reagor, Mike Doss, etc.). Simon, who resides in Tallahassee, Fla., was an exception.

Also, owner Jim Irsay isn't happy he has gotten so little return on such a large investment. Including bonuses and base salaries, the Colts have paid Simon more than $14 million. He did not play last season after undergoing surgery on his left knee during training camp and reportedly battling polyarthritis. In 2005, Simon started 13 regular-season games and finished with 41 tackles.

"There is no question we have put a tremendous amount of money in this man,'' Irsay said, declining to publicly address whether Simon will be released in the coming weeks. "That's the reality of free agency.''

Here's another: If the team parts ways with Simon, who is scheduled to count $7.055 million against the team's $109 million salary cap, he will remain a financial liability.

At the very least, the team would have to count the remaining portion of bonuses paid to Simon against the cap. That's approximately $9 million. A possible scenario is for the Colts to release Simon, and split the remaining portion between the '07 (approximately $3 million) and '08 ($6 million) salary caps.

"Whether Corey comes back and plays or whether some other resolution takes place, the fact is it has cost us a lot of money for not a lot of production,'' Polian said.

 

from Indy Star

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It makes sense why they haven't cut him yet. If they do, he counts $9 million against the cap. If they give him time, and he can play, he counts $7.055 million against the cap. I'm sure the Colts are taking a wait-and-see approach.

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It makes sense why they haven't cut him yet. If they do, he counts $9 million against the cap. If they give him time, and he can play, he counts $7.055 million against the cap. I'm sure the Colts are taking a wait-and-see approach.

 

 

Nah, they've allready written him off, they juts can't decide when/how to let him go. He'll never play for the Colts again and I doubt he'll ever play football again.

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I don't think so. Otherwise they would have already made the move. I do believe if you cut someone after June 1, you can split the cap hit over the next two years. Even then, that's only a savings of $1 million on this years cap. Perhaps that is what they are waiting on. But it makes sense to wait to be sure he positively cannot play, since there really isn't much benefit to cutting him at this time.

 

I really thought the way the Colts had structured the deal, that Simon was only going to be a Colt for one season. I was very surprised when the paid him the $8 million bonus before last season. They wish they hadn't now!

 

I'm glad they won the Super Bowl, or there would be a lot more uproar over this . . .

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I really thought the way the Colts had structured the deal, that Simon was only going to be a Colt for one season. I was very surprised when the paid him the $8 million bonus before last season. They wish they hadn't now!

 

That's Polian the Genius in action. :D

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That's Polian the Genius in action. :D

 

He did build the team that took the Bills to four straight SB's. Put the Panthers in the NFC Championship in their second year of existence. And took the perennial loser Colts and turned them into SB contenders every year, and won the last one. Yeah, we should definitely think about replacing him. :D

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He did build the team that took the Bills to four straight SB's.

granted

 

Put the Panthers in the NFC Championship in their second year of existence.
...and skipped town when they started collapsing shortly thereafter, thx in part to mortgaging the future with older vets. Bout that Kerry Collins and Timmy B? Yeah smooth drafting.

 

And took the perennial loser Colts and turned them into SB contenders every year, and won the last one.
Yeah it's not like a single pick (Manning) - one not as hard to make as some would have you believe - didn't go a LONG way in making all that happen and cover up his various other screwups, including the fact that he can't build Ds for squat and generally sucks when it comes to FA moves too - or do you think a 2d rounder for Faulk was a great deal?

 

I'm not saying he sucks. I'm just saying his "genius" tag is more than a little overblown.

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...and skipped town when they started collapsing shortly thereafter, thx in part to mortgaging the future with older vets. Bout that Kerry Collins and Timmy B? Yeah smooth drafting.

 

:tup: talk about hindsight being 20/20. Yeah, he should have known that Collins would use a racial slur and blow up the locker room . . . and Biakabutuka got injured . . . he still took an EXPANSION team to the brink of the SB in their second year . . . he also drafted Mike Minter, Kris Mangum, and Muhsin Muhammad . . . By the way, who should he have taken instead of Collins? Kevin Carter? Mike Mamula? Joey Galloway? Kyle Brady? J.J. Stokes? Derrick Alexander? Those were the next six picks. Actually, if you look at that draft, it was terrible.

 

Yeah it's not like a single pick (Manning) - one not as hard to make as some would have you believe - didn't go a LONG way in making all that happen and cover up his various other screwups, including the fact that he can't build Ds for squat and generally sucks when it comes to FA moves too - or do you think a 2d rounder for Faulk was a great deal?

 

 

Yeah, the Manning over Leaf was a slam dunk, once again with the advantage of hindsight, it's pretty easy now, isn't it BeeR? :D How about Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams? Dwight Freeney over Wendell Bryant or Albert Haynesworth? Or how about taking Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark when everyone was clamoring for defense? Those guys have turned out to be instrumental parts of the Colts offense.

 

Uh, those Buffalo defenses were pretty good. Bruce Smith and Cornelius Bennett and all . . . sucks at FA moves? His free agent moves lead Carolina to the NFC Championship game. It's funny, in one breath you complain how he "mortgaged the future" with vets, mainly thru free agency, and then say he's not good with free agent moves? Which is it?

 

His free agent moves with the Colts also helped them go from 3-13 in Manning's rookie year, to 13-3 the year after. Once again with Cornelius Bennett, Chad Bratzke, etc. . Vinatieri was a good free agent signing. So was Tyrone Poole, even if it was for too much money. Hell, I even liked Walt Harris. Ryan Lilja? Brandon Stokley? But I see you didn't mention the undrafted free agents he has found. Jeff Saturday. Dominic Rhodes. Gary Brackett. Raheem Brock. Mike Vanderjagt. Or the low draft picks that have become starters? Cato June. Rick DeMulling. Antoine Bethea. David Thornton. Ryan Diem. Robert Mathis. And let's not talk about how he has hit a home run with the first pick of every draft as Colts GM. The worst one was Rob Morris, and he STARTED at strong-side linebacker in the Super Bowl. . .

 

But judging by you, I guess he just lucked into being the architect of 5 different SB teams, 5 conference championships, and 7 conference championship appearances, right?

 

Seriously, you never have answered me, how long have you been a Colts fan? Because those of us who remember Jim Irsay and Bill Tobin as GM's (and had to sit through 1-15 and 3-13 seasons thanks to their efforts) tend to appreciate the job Polian has done. You know, winning the SB and all . . . but that's all Manning right? I wonder why they didn't win it his other years in the league then? :D When Polian wins the SB, it's because of Manning, but when he loses it's because he can't build a defense? Is that how it works?

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So... they didn't mention it up there... but I recall this being about more then an injury... there seemed to be some bad blood. Am I remembering this incorrectly? If not, what was the deal.

 

The Colts put him on the non-football injury list, which means they don't have to pay him for the year. It also means they can go after a pro-rated portion of his sigining bonus. Cory wasn't real happy about that, he wanted to be given more time to try and get ready for the season. That's all the "bad blood" I know of.

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So... they didn't mention it up there... but I recall this being about more then an injury... there seemed to be some bad blood. Am I remembering this incorrectly? If not, what was the deal.

 

 

As of October 5, 2006, Simon will miss the remainder of the season with an undisclosed medical problem. Early reports stated polyarthritis, but his agent and Colts GM Bill Polian stated it has nothing to do with previous surgery to fix polyarthritis. Rumors link his sitting out the season as lack of desire, being overweight, and/or being told by his preacher to never play again. The latter is thought to be a joke.

 

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Apparently, whatevcer ails Simon is a mystery. And, there HAS to be bad blood when you pay that much $$ to a guy who won't play and there is no documneted reason why not.

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Apparently, whatevcer ails Simon is a mystery. And, there HAS to be bad blood when you pay that much $$ to a guy who won't play and there is no documneted reason why not.

 

Agreed. I don't see Simon playing another down for the Colts. There's too much animosity between him and Polian and with the way that Simon was way out of shape back in '05, I'm not even sure that he wants to play in the NFL anymore. And unless he agrees to seriously re-structure his contract with a new team, there's no way that anybody will trade for him. It's a good thing that they got Pitcock in the draft, because they're probably going to need him this season.

 

The question now is do the Colts release him and take the $7 million cap hit, or do they eventually put Simon on IR or PUP (there's no indication that he's healthy yet) and take a lower cap hit next season? I'm betting it's the latter.

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  • 5 weeks later...

According to today's Indy Star, and beat writer Mike Chappell regarding Simon:

 

Look for the veteran defensive tackle to get his walking papers, perhaps after a final grievance with the Colts is resolved involving $1.9 million in '06 base salary.

The latest sign Simon has played his final game for the Colts: He wasn't invited to Wednesday night's ring ceremony.

 

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According to today's Indy Star, and beat writer Mike Chappell regarding Simon:

 

Look for the veteran defensive tackle to get his walking papers, perhaps after a final grievance with the Colts is resolved involving $1.9 million in '06 base salary.

The latest sign Simon has played his final game for the Colts: He wasn't invited to Wednesday night's ring ceremony.

 

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As long as they can absorb the cap hit, the sooner they dump Simon, the better IMO. This guy's never in shape, never healthy, is at war with the front office, and doesn't seem to even want to play football anymore.

 

Also good to hear that Polian is negotiating with Freeney's agent right now. Polian has said repeatedly that he wants to get a long-term contract done ASAP. I imagine that it may also lower Freeney's cap value (vs. the franchise tag), alleviating the cap hit from dumping Simon somewhat.

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