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Division Battles 2007


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It's still early but it appears the NFCS will be a two horse race between NO and Carolina, and it should be a very good battle if both teams stay healthy. I'd give the edge as of now to the Saints, who will be into year 2 under Payton. The Panthers will not be to far behind as they appear to be past the confusion with the new offense system and to the point of wanting to implement the scheme. The focal points will be Smith and Williams as the primary weapons. These teams always play each other very tough and this season should be no exception-either way, both go to the PO, but it will be fun to watch the battle for the division crown.

 

Yes, I do not believe Atlanta or Tampa will be a factor this season in the NFCS.

 

Next Homer with analysis please :D

 

NFCS-Carolina or NO(both go the PO)

NFCE-Dallas or Philly(This will be a dogfight-only one get's in the PO)

NFCW-Move over Seattle and enjoy the WC, Congrats on the Division Crown SF( both go to the PO)

NFCN-Well, the Bears win it by default....unless they implode and the 7-9 Pack takes the division?(only one from the N)

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It all boils down to taking care of business at home for Caroilna this year, as the Cat's could be in excellent shape by their three home dates with SF, Seattle and Dallas at home later in the season. It's a tough shedule but it set's up for a beautiful opprutunity to really take care of business to close the season.

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I'd have to think it's the Saints Division to loose.

 

Carolina is muddled at QB & seem reluctant to trust their running game to the better back in Williams.

 

Tampa still looks to have O'line problems & the WR situation is no better then last year.

 

I'm 99.9% certain that Atlanta is going to have to go with Harrington or DJ Shockley for X number of games. Love Vick or hate 'em, I think he gives the Falcons their best chance under center. The O'line is going to transition to a new blocking scheme. Always takes time to jell. An oft injured over the hill Horn is not much of a WR upgrade. On the D'line, a very important Coleman is out for an undetermined amount of time. Abraham, who can't stay healthy to save his life, is on one end & an unproven rookie on the other.

 

I see it;

 

New Orleans

Carolina

Tampa

Atlanta

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Carolina is not muddeled at QB, but Jake has a shorter leash-100% agree, but now we have an able back-up. Plus, the new scheme is a mirror image of the Memphis offensive system-Williams is the man, but Fox is as bad as Shanny and BB and ya won't know until week 1. Foster even did some restructuring of his contract, not a major sign, as Brady in NE has done it at times as well, but still even though no words have been spoken-DW is the man. Plus, like Fox said-"we didn't finish 3-13 or 4-12, we were 8-8 with a ton of guy's out and were in the hunt until the final week of the season." I truly believe you under-estimate Fox....and that is when they play their best.

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I just hope that the Saints are not this years Panthers. Last year the Panthers took a dive after everyone thought they had the division hands down before the season started.

 

 

I don't think it will happen, and that was the doom for the Panthers anyway-for what ever reason they need to have that chip on their shoulder, for they play better and Fox coaches better.

 

However-I still see both the Panthers and the Saints making the PO.

 

The NFCE will be interesting as well-Is Commander Coughlin a lame duck coach? How will the loss of Tiki play out? I see it as a two horse race with the Eagles and Boy's.

 

C'mon this is about Divisions...were are the AFC momo's????

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I just hope that the Saints are not this years Panthers. Last year the Panthers took a dive after everyone thought they had the division hands down before the season started.

 

This has already been a really long offseason. I dont remember a time when there was so much optimism in The Big Easy for the Saints. So many things can happen to turn a good season bad but I dare say that the Saints have now just about equaled the Colts as far as weapons on the offensive side. The question is did they do enough on the other side of the ball?

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I don't think it will happen, and that was the doom for the Panthers anyway-for what ever reason they need to have that chip on their shoulder, for they play better and Fox coaches better.

 

However-I still see both the Panthers and the Saints making the PO.

 

The NFCE will be interesting as well-Is Commander Coughlin a lame duck coach? How will the loss of Tiki play out? I see it as a two horse race with the Eagles and Boy's.

 

C'mon this is about Divisions...were are the AFC momo's????

 

I think everyone is underestimating the Giants this year, not saying they will win the division but when they are healthy the east is a three team race...with two of them going to the postseason.

 

as far as the O-line is concerned 25 sacks given up is not that bad at all and Dhiel played well at LT the end of the year, and the coachs are pretty high on Guy Whimper if Dhiel doesnt work out. Eli's completition % has gone up by about 5% each year, and he has no shortage of recievers to throw the ball to. Throw a healthy combo of Jacobs and Droughns in there and you have a potentially nasty power run/play action offence.

 

I think the biggest question facing the Giants as a team this year are the Cornerbacks and how Spags is gonna have them play, certainly the zone coverage schemes Lewis had them running last year wernt working...wether or not they have the skills to play more physical with receivers this year is gonna be key.

 

should be feast or famine for the giants this year, the east will be fun to watch

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Next Homer with analysis please :D

 

NFCS-Carolina or NO(both go the PO)

NFCE-Dallas or Philly(This will be a dogfight-only one get's in the PO)

NFCW-Move over Seattle and enjoy the WC, Congrats on the Division Crown SF( both go to the PO)

NFCN-Well, the Bears win it by default....unless they implode and the 7-9 Pack takes the division?(only one from the N)

 

 

NFCS-Saints- They seem poised to build upon last year. People never talk about how well there line played. This is actually why I like them so much.

NFCE-Dallas- Too much talent in a division in influx. Will the McNabb drama continue to build? Will Andy Reids sons do something else? Can McNabb AND Westbrook stay healthy?

NFCW-San Fran As long as Alex Smith continues to improve. I think Arizona makes a huge push this year. Im thinking 8-8.

NFCN-Bears, although if Briggs sits out for ten weeks I wouldnt be so sure. Thomas Jones was there best offensive player, Briggs was the second best, if not the best on that defense. Im not so sure those guys can be easily replaced.

wildcards Green Bay, Carolina

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NFCN-Bears, although if Briggs sits out for ten weeks I wouldnt be so sure. Thomas Jones was there best offensive player, Briggs was the second best, if not the best on that defense. Im not so sure those guys can be easily replaced.

 

The Bears certainly seem hell-bent on pissing away their momentum from the past two seasons, what with trading away T Jones, and the Briggs and Brown situations.

 

But then again, if Grossman starts becoming more consistent and Benson can carry the full load (he IS a very talented back), Briggs becomes a minor distraction.

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It's apparent that in the NFC West that San Fran is now the sexy pick to win the division replacing Arizona, who was the trendy choice for the last 3 years. One factor, amongst many others, to keep in mind is that the outerconference schedule for the NFC West is quite tough this lear. Not exactly the easiest way for young QBs to push their team to a division title. The changing of the guard is coming but not this year.

 

Seattle 10-6

St. Louis 9-7

San Fran 7-9

Arizona 7-9

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The Bears certainly seem hell-bent on pissing away their momentum from the past two seasons, what with trading away T Jones, and the Briggs and Brown situations.

 

But then again, if Grossman starts becoming more consistent and Benson can carry the full load (he IS a very talented back), Briggs becomes a minor distraction.

 

 

 

I say the Bears stumble out to a 2-3 start, then start getting it together near the bye and put forth a nice second half to win the division 11-5, holding off the Lions. Yes, the Lions. The Pack looks 8-8, especially if they're not on the same page - and thus far it appears they are not. Minny has a little more to do to shake off the Tice era but that D is solid, no doubt.

 

 

Briggs? I remember thinking Warrick Holdman was the second coming of Wilbur Marshall and he disappeared when he no longer played next to Urlacher. Methinks we're looking at the same here.

 

Alex Brown is a minor figure in the Bears' woes at best, and they HAD to give Benson the job at one point or another.

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The Pack looks 8-8, especially if they're not on the same page - and thus far it appears they are not.

 

Where is that impression coming from? The fact that Favre can't burp without it being breathlessly reported across the internet?

 

 

Briggs? I remember thinking Warrick Holdman was the second coming of Wilbur Marshall and he disappeared when he no longer played next to Urlacher. Methinks we're looking at the same here.

 

Alex Brown is a minor figure in the Bears' woes at best, and they HAD to give Benson the job at one point or another.

 

I agree they HAD to give Benson the job; that's no guarantee that he'll be as good as Jones was for them. The concern with Brown and Briggs (and possibly Tank Johnson) is less how indispensable they may or may not be (that D can probably still remain VERY solid absent any or all of them) than the fact that the off-field distractions are piling up.

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Yes.

 

:D If Favre says it, it's "news" somehow; if Aaron Rodgers said it, nobody would care.

 

I haven't seen anything to indicate GB won't be able to build on whatever progress they made last year. Whether that necessarily results in a better record is certainly debatable.

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:D If Favre says it, it's "news" somehow; if Aaron Rodgers said it, nobody would care.

 

I haven't seen anything to indicate GB won't be able to build on whatever progress they made last year. Whether that necessarily results in a better record is certainly debatable.

 

The packers won there final 4 down the stretch with the youngest team in football. The only starter lost was Ahman Green, who I thought was over-rated.

Jennings will be healthy all year alongside of Driver.

The O Line has one year of experiance together and are now a cohesive unit.

Kampman is the man, the D Line is actually good. Not great, but good.

The LB corps is going to dominate this year.

Woodson and Harris are a top tandom.

As long as someone can take over Manuels spot, I see no reason why they cant win 9 or even 10 games.

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This has already been a really long offseason. I dont remember a time when there was so much optimism in The Big Easy for the Saints. So many things can happen to turn a good season bad but I dare say that the Saints have now just about equaled the Colts as far as weapons on the offensive side. The question is did they do enough on the other side of the ball?

 

 

:D

 

Are you really saying that one great season by Brees and Colston equal the plethera of seasons put together by Manning and Harrison?

 

:D

 

Reality check needed.

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I think that would be a pretty select crowd.

 

I've watched every packers game since DirectTV's Sunday Tickets start. I can tell you before he was hurt two years ago he lost a lot of burst. This past year there were times when the line would give him massive holes to run through, which he did. I just think that Green is replacable.

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:D

 

Are you really saying that one great season by Brees and Colston equal the plethera of seasons put together by Manning and Harrison?

 

:D

 

Reality check needed.

 

Not historically no! Right now it is hard to argue that the Saints arent on par with the Colts.

You point out a great season by Brees and Colston but lets not forget they also have a couple of guys in the backfield who are putting up some pretty stellar stats.

Add to that a TE that can actually catch the ball, a rookie rec that should be interesting if nothing else and an offensive scheme that seems to have the NFL def's on there toes.

Not sure you can really argue that the Saints arent an offensive powerhouse on the level of the Colts :tup: .

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Not sure you can really argue that the Saints arent an offensive powerhouse on the level of the Colts :D .

 

 

I think they had a year where everything was in their favor....everything. The emotion of carrying a city. A new Qb with something to prove. A WR that took the league by surprise. An RBBC that worked better than anyone expected it could. An NFC South that was nowhere near as strong as many expected. It all added up to a very special year for the Saints and their fans.

 

If they can duplicate 80% of what they did offensively last year this coming season, I'll be very surprised. They do have some serious weapons, but to put them on the same pedastal as the Colts, based on one great year. There are some terrific NFC offenses that could just as easily put up the stats the Saints did last year:

 

Seattle: Hassleback, Alexander, Jackson, Branch, Hackett (all healthy)

Cowboys: Romo, Jones/Barber, Ownes, Glenn (one year of gelling behind them)

Eagles: Mcnabb, Westbrook, Brown, Smith (all healthy, top NFC offense last year prior to McNabb injury)

 

I personally like the Saints quite a bit, but to say after one great season that they are going to be on par with the Colts is a little pre-mature. The Colts have proven year-after-year their offensive success is not a fluke. The Saints need to do it at least another year before I put them in that lofty category.

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I think they had a year where everything was in their favor....everything. The emotion of carrying a city. A new Qb with something to prove. A WR that took the league by surprise. An RBBC that worked better than anyone expected it could. An NFC South that was nowhere near as strong as many expected. It all added up to a very special year for the Saints and their fans.

 

If they can duplicate 80% of what they did offensively last year this coming season, I'll be very surprised. They do have some serious weapons, but to put them on the same pedastal as the Colts, based on one great year. There are some terrific NFC offenses that could just as easily put up the stats the Saints did last year:

 

Seattle: Hassleback, Alexander, Jackson, Branch, Hackett (all healthy)

Cowboys: Romo, Jones/Barber, Ownes, Glenn (one year of gelling behind them)

Eagles: Mcnabb, Westbrook, Brown, Smith (all healthy, top NFC offense last year prior to McNabb injury)

 

I personally like the Saints quite a bit, but to say after one great season that they are going to be on par with the Colts is a little pre-mature. The Colts have proven year-after-year their offensive success is not a fluke. The Saints need to do it at least another year before I put them in that lofty category.

 

 

Very well said. I agree 100%. I also have to say that you are a very level-headed sports fan as you can make decisions/conclusions based on reality rather than biases. Case in point, complimenting Dallas' offensive strength as an Eagle fan. Pretty impressive!

 

By the way unless the Seahawks have a very favorable schedule I just have a sour feeling about them this year.

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Seattle: Hassleback, Alexander, Jackson, Branch, Hackett (all healthy)

Cowboys: Romo, Jones/Barber, Ownes, Glenn (one year of gelling behind them)

Eagles: Mcnabb, Westbrook, Brown, Smith (all healthy, top NFC offense last year prior to McNabb injury)

 

 

 

I agree that this season will tell alot about what the Saints are made of but I will disagree that any of those Offenses can top what they did last year moreless match em this year!

 

Eagles would be the one with a chance but the "all healthy" part is whats most unlikely!

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I can tell you before he was hurt two years ago he lost a lot of burst.
Agreed; it looked to me like he had recovered a good portion of that burst fairly early last season.

 

This past year there were times when the line would give him massive holes to run through, which he did.
I didn't see the line performing at as high a level as you did for whatever reason - obviously, the fact that Herron and Morency were able to step in and produce as well as Green is favors your side of the argument.

 

I just think that Green is replacable.

 

Agreed.

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