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If no deal is signed by the end of the day today, the only deal he can sign is the franchise tag offer in 2007. It appears that if no deal is signed by 3pm today, he is still threatening to sit out 10 games.

 

:D Let's work something out!

 

 

Lance Briggs = Warrick Holdman when he wasn't playing next to Urlacher either. Don't overpay Jerry.

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Tick tock.

 

Predictions:

 

CHI doesn't cave, Briggs holds out, Jamar Williams fills in and puts up similar numbers.

 

Samuel & NE reach an eleventh-hour agreement and manage to get him into camp on time.

 

KC doesn't cave into LJ's (IMO completely reasonable) demands and Johnson sits out at least the preseason, maybe into the regular season.

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Tick tock.

 

Predictions:

 

CHI doesn't cave, Briggs holds out, Jamar Williams fills in and puts up similar numbers.

 

Samuel & NE reach an eleventh-hour agreement and manage to get him into camp on time.

 

KC doesn't cave into LJ's (IMO completely reasonable) demands and Johnson sits out at least the preseason, maybe into the regular season.

 

If NE and Samuel reach an agreement, (and I doubt they will) it will not be NE who gives in. He's do to make $7.8 mil this year as a franchise player. Take it or leave it.

 

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Neither Briggs nor Samuel reached an agreement with CHI or NE respectively by the deadline.

 

So now, each has to decide that they will play for the 1 year franchise offers, each only in excess of $7M, or hold out.

 

Must be an awfully crappy decision to be forced into - either take $7+M for one year's work or take nothing and watch your team mates go on without you...

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Neither Briggs nor Samuel reached an agreement with CHI or NE respectively by the deadline.

 

So now, each has to decide that they will play for the 1 year franchise offers, each only in excess of $7M, or hold out.

 

Must be an awfully crappy decision to be forced into - either take $7+M for one year's work or take nothing and watch your team mates go on without you...

 

 

Not surprised about samuel - he wants nate Clements money, but after Vasher's deal e's probably stuck at that level since Vasher's numbers are certainly in the same ballpark.

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Briggs is way better than Holdman or Colvin... The guy is a beast-monster, and I will be ecstatic when he holds out the first ten weeks, then next season is a different division.

 

 

I liked Colvin but he did get hurt.

 

Rosenhaus was on NFL LIve talking about this today and saiid no long term deal will be agreed on (he thought) but they are working on other deals.

 

He said Briggs is not against playing for the Bears. When that $425,000 weekly paycheck :D looms I think he'll play.

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I liked Colvin but he did get hurt.

 

Rosenhaus was on NFL LIve talking about this today and saiid no long term deal will be agreed on (he thought) but they are working on other deals.

 

He said Briggs is not against playing for the Bears. When that $425,000 weekly paycheck :D looms I think he'll play.

Briggs will be there next week. :D

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Briggs is way better than Holdman or Colvin... The guy is a beast-monster, and I will be ecstatic when he holds out the first ten weeks, then next season is a different division.

 

 

Colvin was the beast your talking about, until he broke his hip.

 

Seriously, Briggs has looked as good as Holdman did in 2001, and he disappeared. IMO Briggs will do the same thing, especially if he ends up on a team that doesn't play Cover-2.

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Colvin was the beast your talking about, until he broke his hip.

 

Seriously, Briggs has looked as good as Holdman did in 2001, and he disappeared. IMO Briggs will do the same thing, especially if he ends up on a team that doesn't play Cover-2.

at 6'1" 240lbs Briggs doesnt need a cover 2 system to be successful...he could very easily play MLB in a base 4/3 scheme and be very successful easily as good as gary bracket has been

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at 6'1" 240lbs Briggs doesnt need a cover 2 system to be successful...he could very easily play MLB in a base 4/3 scheme and be very successful easily as good as gary bracket has been

 

 

I do believe that is somewhat debatable. Last year, when he passed on the long term deal, there was coverage in the Tribune, and in PFW's 'Whipsers' that most NFL teams see him as an ideal cover two guy who probably lacks the goods to be 'the man' as you are suggesting. He really does beneift from playing next to arguably the beshh

 

Something tells me that this time next year we'll be closer to seeing who's right.

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Rosenhaus was on NFL LIve talking about this today and saiid no long term deal will be agreed on (he thought) but they are working on other deals.

 

He said Briggs is not against playing for the Bears. When that $425,000 weekly paycheck :D looms I think he'll play.

 

Only a complete idiot would turn down that kind of guaranteed money. Even if it's "only" for one year, you could live off of that VERY comfortably for the rest of your life. Given that Briggs has been getting paid near the league minimum up to this point, I seriously doubt that he holds out. All it takes is one serious injury and the tens of millions that he thinks he deserves becomes a pipe dream.

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at 6'1" 240lbs Briggs doesnt need a cover 2 system to be successful...he could very easily play MLB in a base 4/3 scheme and be very successful easily as good as gary bracket has been

 

Just like how Cato June's reputation for being a top LB has followed him to TB!

 

:D

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Actually, if you ask the coaches in Tampa, they'd tell you his reputation HAS followed him...and that's because they also run a Cover-2. Not the ideal comparison, really. :D

 

Funny, that perception sure hasn't carried over to anyone else's thinking. Of course, given TB's success the past couple of years, who would ever think to question their coaches?

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Just like how Cato June's reputation for being a top LB has followed him to TB!

 

:doh:

are you trying to compare a 6' 227lb. LBer that is a converted safety to a 6'1 240lb. LBer? Light in the pants type guys with speed are well suited for the Cover 2 and will more then likely struggle in most other systems(there are always exceptions)...you surely arent comparing Briggs to June just because they both played WLB in a cover 2? I know I wasnt just referring to FF as I was talking about NFL impact also.

 

fwiw I am in the camp of :D with TB wanting to play June at SLB...to me it is a complete head scratcher but hey they are the ones getting paid as a NFL coach.

 

Actually, if you ask the coaches in Tampa, they'd tell you his reputation HAS followed him...and that's because they also run a Cover-2. Not the ideal comparison, really. :D

:tup:

 

edit: actually a better comparison for briggs would probably be Brooks but you do know there is only one Derrick Brooks :D

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are you trying to compare a 6' 227lb. LBer that is a converted safety to a 6'1 240lb. LBer? Light in the pants type guys with speed are well suited for the Cover 2 and will more then likely struggle in most other systems(there are always exceptions)...you surely arent comparing Briggs to June just because they both played WLB in a cover 2? I know I wasnt just referring to FF as I was talking about NFL impact also.

 

I wasn't aware that size is the critical criteria for playing MLB. Briggs may be a superb MLB. He also could be a bust there. The responsibilities of a MLB as opposed to a WLB in a superb cover 2 system are vastly different, and to expect a transfer of one skill set to another position simply because of size is unreasonable - and we have seen LBs play the WLB in CHI's cover 2 put up very good numbers, just like Cato June put up in the same situation in IND, only to be exposed as mediocre LBs in other systems and/or playing with team mates who have different skills & abilities when they moved on.

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I wasn't aware that size is the critical criteria for playing MLB. Briggs may be a superb MLB. He also could be a bust there. The responsibilities of a MLB as opposed to a WLB in a superb cover 2 system are vastly different, and to expect a transfer of one skill set to another position simply because of size is unreasonable - and we have seen LBs play the WLB in CHI's cover 2 put up very good numbers, just like Cato June put up in the same situation in IND, only to be exposed as mediocre LBs in other systems and/or playing with team mates who have different skills & abilities when they moved on.

i didnt say it was the ONLY/CRITICAL criteria...what I am saying is that I think that Briggs has the skill set to play MLB and he happens to be of a size that he will be able to play the position and in turn most WLBs in a cover 2 wouldnt have the size to play MLB(again there are exceptions to every rule)

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i didnt say it was the ONLY/CRITICAL criteria...what I am saying is that I think that Briggs has the skill set to play MLB and he happens to be of a size that he will be able to play the position and in turn most WLBs in a cover 2 wouldnt have the size to play MLB(again there are exceptions to every rule)

 

You could very well be right. I'll remain skeptical, though. Not irrevocably convinced he can't play the position, mind you. I just would like to see it happen before I'm ready to annoint Briggs one of the great LBs of this era of professional football.

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