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Adding IDP's to My League... Need Advice on Setup and Scoring


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Hello everyone,

 

I'm the commissioner of a Sportsline fantasy football league. In the past, we've had 10-12 members, but this year we have 14 members. Because I'm concerned about roster depth with 14 owners, I'd like to add individual defensive players.

 

Currently, teams are required to start 8 players per week:

 

1 QB

2 RBs

3 WR/TE

1 Team Defense

1 Kicker

 

Ideally, I'd like to bump this up to 10 players per week and add two IDPs to everyone's roster, in addition to the team defense that they are already playing. Is this advisable, or am I asking for trouble by doing both IDPs and team defenses?

 

Also, can anyone offer some advice for how scoring should be set up for IDPs?

 

I see that Sportline offers a few different options for defenders (e.g. "one individual defensive player for all defensemen" or "LB/DL/DB positions"). I'm not really sure which is the better option. Can anyone help?

 

Thank you!

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i dont have the time to give an in depth answer right now but I would say that if you are going to do IDP that you do it right(imo, 2 is wrong) otherwise you are just doing it for the sake of doing it and what good is that

 

i will try to get back to this later

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i dont have the time to give an in depth answer right now but I would say that if you are going to do IDP that you do it right(imo, 2 is wrong) otherwise you are just doing it for the sake of doing it and what good is that

 

i will try to get back to this later

 

ok, thanks... looking forward to your response.

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ok, thanks... looking forward to your response.

 

keggers will certainly have more to say than I will, but I will give you one thing to think about. Say you had a league that only drafted IDP, and you decided to add Offensive players. Would you just add 2 or 3? If you did just add 2 or 3, how is the team with LT going to stack up against everyone else? Just food for thought.

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the reason i say 2 IDPs is wrong is simply due to logistics....with only 2/team there will more then likely always be viable starters avail on the WW.

If you are going to take the plunge i suggest looking at adding at least 8 starters and break them out by DL(DTs and DEs), LB and DB(CBs and S's)...as your league progresses you can always look to break out the DL position and the same goes with the DB position too.

 

scoring is a matter of preference for me I prefer:

 

2pts/tackle

1pt/assist

2 or 3pts/sack(if you use decimal scoring you really should break this down to per 1/2 sack)

2 or 3pts/INT

1.5 pts/PD(pass defended)

6pts for all TDs

2pts/FF(forced fumble)

2pts/FR(fumble recovery)

3-5pts/blocked FG

2pts/blocked Punt

3-4pts/Safety

 

good luck and if you cant get your league to go full blown at least 2 is better then none but be forewarned that some owners may at seasons end say IDP didnt really add anything to the league....and in all honesty they would probably be correct

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the reason i say 2 IDPs is wrong is simply due to logistics....with only 2/team there will more then likely always be viable starters avail on the WW.

If you are going to take the plunge i suggest looking at adding at least 8 starters and break them out by DL(DTs and DEs), LB and DB(CBs and S's)...as your league progresses you can always look to break out the DL position and the same goes with the DB position too.

 

scoring is a matter of preference for me I prefer:

 

2pts/tackle

1pt/assist

2 or 3pts/sack(if you use decimal scoring you really should break this down to per 1/2 sack)

2 or 3pts/INT

1.5 pts/PD(pass defended)

6pts for all TDs

2pts/FF(forced fumble)

2pts/FR(fumble recovery)

3-5pts/blocked FG

2pts/blocked Punt

3-4pts/Safety

 

good luck and if you cant get your league to go full blown at least 2 is better then none but be forewarned that some owners may at seasons end say IDP didnt really add anything to the league....and in all honesty they would probably be correct

 

Thanks for the reply, keggerz.

 

One thing I did not realize is that Sportsline apparently does not allow you to assign different scoring values to IDPs vs team defenses. For instance, lets say that I want to make a sack by an IDP worth 2 points, but I want to make a sack by a team defense worth only one point. Sportsline, as near as I can tell, does not allow this. Can anyone confirm that this is the case?

 

Furthermore, what happens if I want to award IDPs points for tackles/assisted tackles but do NOT want team defenses to get points for tackles/assisted tackles. Is this possible?

 

It seems to me that we would have to get rid of team defenses completely if we are going to use IDPs... the alternative is that team defense will start scoring 30+ points per game. Am I misinterpreting something here?

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Thanks for the reply, keggerz.

 

One thing I did not realize is that Sportsline apparently does not allow you to assign different scoring values to IDPs vs team defenses. For instance, lets say that I want to make a sack by an IDP worth 2 points, but I want to make a sack by a team defense worth only one point. Sportsline, as near as I can tell, does not allow this. Can anyone confirm that this is the case?

 

Furthermore, what happens if I want to award IDPs points for tackles/assisted tackles but do NOT want team defenses to get points for tackles/assisted tackles. Is this possible?

 

It seems to me that we would have to get rid of team defenses completely if we are going to use IDPs... the alternative is that team defense will start scoring 30+ points per game. Am I misinterpreting something here?

if you do IDP you can do away with TEAM D/ST

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I've said this before, I'll say it again.

 

If a league is going to go to IDP, they need to make a commitment to it. Adding 1 or 2 IDPs to a league that already has & is keeping a team D will make for a bad experience. You won't get the nuances of IDP strategy because there will be plenty of studs to go around, and then one or two teams will benefit greatly by paying attention and getting a Ryans/Bulluck combo or something similar while the other teams' IDPs are relatively mediocre and made up of big name players. It would be kind of like playing in a start 2 K league.

 

While I wouldn't necessarily advocate requiring 11 D starters (you hae better have a league that loves FF to do that), I would advocate getting rid of the team D and starting at least 5 D players - maybe 1 DL, 2 LB, 2 DB or something similar - so that your league can get a true flavor of IDPs. Make sure you institute a scoring system that helps DBs & DLs somewhat to increase their values if you are going to have a small number of IDPs - that way scoring is spread around more, just like a well thought out O scoring system that gives value to QBs, RBs, & WRs (at least) so that teams can spread out risk/reward factors between positions.

 

IDP FF is truly a great experience. Don't short yourselves. I'd be willing to wager that if your league does it right that they'll never be a mention of going back to team D, even from teams that have a rough time with IDPs the first year (unless you have owners who want to do minimal work & still be in a FF league). It also makes Sundays a hell of a lot more fun - you'll be watching more of the content of the games and have players spread across more NFL teams. But like anything else in life, if you do it halfway & halfass, you can pretty much expect an unsatisfactory result.

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BTW - the scoring system keg is proposing is considered very heavily weighted towards tackles/assists & tries to artificially inflate DBs with the 1.5 passes defended (PDs). It also moves D players way up the value charts so that LBs become equivalent with lower end #1 WRs and #2 RBs. A league new to IDPs might not take too kindly to seeing IDPs score that well.

 

Having played in IDP leagues for years, if you're looking for better spreading of the scoring, I'd be looking to lower tackle scoring just a bit, having more of a 3:1 to 4:1 ratio for sack to tackle scoring, increase scoring for INTs, and reduce scoring for PDs.

 

Just some thoughts. If you'd like a bit more balanced system, let me know and I can post something from a couple of leagues.

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BTW - the scoring system keg is proposing is considered very heavily weighted towards tackles/assists & tries to artificially inflate DBs with the 1.5 passes defended (PDs). It also moves D players way up the value charts so that LBs become equivalent with lower end #1 WRs and #2 RBs. A league new to IDPs might not take too kindly to seeing IDPs score that well.

 

Having played in IDP leagues for years, if you're looking for better spreading of the scoring, I'd be looking to lower tackle scoring just a bit, having more of a 3:1 to 4:1 ratio for sack to tackle scoring, increase scoring for INTs, and reduce scoring for PDs.

 

Just some thoughts. If you'd like a bit more balanced system, let me know and I can post something from a couple of leagues.

and if they dont score well enough then a new league might say why are we bothering with IDPs :D

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and if they dont score well enough then a new league might say why are we bothering with IDPs :D

 

That's true, but again, guys just starting with IDPs may not be quite prepared to see the value of IDPs in this kind of system and how favorable it is to the D players as compared to a more traditional system.

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