armchairwarrior Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Thanks to everyone here for the help in the past. My draft date got postponed back to the 25th so I have had a chance to devour the messages on this most awesome board and do a little research myself. Needless to say I think I am getting addicted to FF. That said, I think Jerry Porter is an excellent sleeper at WR. I can't imagine anyone expecting much out of the Oakland camp but Kiffin is seriously installing a WC style of offense. If the first pre-season game is any indication then Porter will see enough balls cominig his way. I'm guessing about 70-80 catches, 900-1000 yards and 6-8 TD's My only fear is that Mike Williams might get a number of corner of the endzone TD's ala USC days, especially with his Kiffin connection. Frm what I have been reading on this board I am expecting to go 3 RB's and 1 QB somehow in the first 4 round becuase the point differential in RB's is much steeper than that of WR's. So hopefully I have helped make a contribution to this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 Why QB so early? Unless there is some sort of uniques league setup like 2 starting QBs, unless Manning falls to the 3rd or a Palmer/Brady are there in the late 4th/early 5th, you should probably be waiting on QB and gobbling up as many good RBs and WRs as you can with your early picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I agree. Too long a wait for a quality #1 WR in my opinion. Check the point scored dfferential between Peyton and the #10 QB. It's probably about 6-8 pts. Don't try getting all your wideouts later in the draft. Getting a good QB is easier than a quality WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd74 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Devery Henderson is my choice for sleeper WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexterDew Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 i worry about Devery's hammy armchairwarrior, you are getting good advice from above, you will need at least one stud WR, and depending on your weekly starting line up, maybe another. While I agree with the ability to find some good WRs in the later rounds, thus concentrating a focus on RBs in the early rounds, you still need a stud WR to build around. as for the QB thing, I just cruched the numbers for my local, and we had 5 QBs AVG more than 35 points, but the next 7 QBs AVG between 29-35 points. So I wouldn't spend a top 4 pick on a QB to get that "small" of an advantage if it comes to fruition. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 (edited) The first four rounds in a 12 team league are fine to draft a QB, so long as you're getting Manning, Brady, Bulger, Palmer, or Brees, and *maybe* McNabb near the end of the 4th. After that, its best to wait until the late 6th or beyond. But you do need to grab at least one top WR in the first four rounds. Edited August 16, 2007 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 My sleeper at wr would be dj hackett for sure ...no djax any longer and I think hasselbeck is very comofrtable throwing to hackett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 My sleeper at wr would be dj hackett for sure ...no djax any longer and I think hasselbeck is very comofrtable throwing to hackett Yeah, but Burleson is still pushing Hackett for the job. Personally, I think Hackett walks away with the #2 WR position. Just be aware that its not quite settled just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Yeah, but Burleson is still pushing Hackett for the job. Personally, I think Hackett walks away with the #2 WR position. Just be aware that its not quite settled just yet. Good info thanks ..have not been keeping up as much as I wanted to but plan to do so this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxfactor Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Frm what I have been reading on this board I am expecting to go 3 RB's and 1 QB somehow in the first 4 round becuase the point differential in RB's is much steeper than that of WR's. You shouldn't say that already. Too many things happen in a draft. What pick do you have? I've seen quite a few mocks and quite a few real drafts and have seen people go RB WR WR a bunch. I only know one of my draft positions already(#2) and am leaning towards going WR WR in rounds 2 and 3 as SJ will be my 1 pick barring a miracle. But things can happen to change my mind. Perhaps a very good RB slides. Just don't know. So go into the draft open minded. If your league is a PPR league I would definately reconsider your plan. If my league I referred to was not a PPR, I might tend to go RB RB WR. Just have to play it by ear. I'm gettin' damn antsy that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory_n_az Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 (edited) My super sleeper (He'll probably go undrafted in a 20-player 12-team league) is Patrick Crayton. At best, he's probably getting drafted as a WR5-6. #3 Wr in a good offense with 2 aging WR's (one coming off knee surgery and the other that's suffered various ailments the last 3-4 years). Playing for a new contract as well (so his value probably isn't limited to just this year). Another WR in a similar situation is Bryant Johnson. #3 WR in a decent offense with WR's that have also been nicked up in the past. Playing for a new contract as well. Again, a player that probably won't get drafted in your 20-player 12-team league, but IMO has significantly more upside long-term (past 2007) than the Michael Clayton/Marty Bookers (WR's in bad pass offenses) of the world. Edited August 16, 2007 by cory_n_az Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 My super sleeper (He'll probably go undrafted in a 20-player 12-team league) is Patrick Crayton. At best, he's probably getting drafted as a WR5-6. He won't be going undrafted in any draft I am involved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Yeah, but Burleson is still pushing Hackett for the job. Personally, I think Hackett walks away with the #2 WR position. Just be aware that its not quite settled just yet. Can Burleson catch the ball?I had him last year and he looked terrible much of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 My super sleeper (He'll probably go undrafted in a 20-player 12-team league) is Patrick Crayton. At best, he's probably getting drafted as a WR5-6 I'd go with this too. Glenn was Parcells' boy last year, and Crayton now might be the fastest guy on the team. Plus, Glenn had some funky injuries last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Here are some deeper sleepers that COULD find a way to be a lot more productive than currently predicted IMO... Ernest Wilford Brandon Jones Maurice Stovall Bernard Berrian and you heard it here first... Tim Carter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Can Burleson catch the ball?I had him last year and he looked terrible much of the time. I would assume so. Burleson has a lifetime 59.07% reception ratio. (Though, Hackett's lifetime reception ratio is 66.97%). Like I said, I think it will be Hackett's job. But that simply hasn't been decided yet, is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShiznit Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Here are some deeper sleepers that COULD find a way to be a lot more productive than currently predicted IMO... Ernest Wilford Brandon Jones Maurice Stovall Bernard Berrian and you heard it here first... Tim Carter Add to that list Malcolm Floyd and I would agree. I think Malcolm Floyd will be the #2 in SD even with Craig Davis being drafted. Guy is tall and can catch. If you have later drafts....watch this kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocNiner52 Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 High Reward /Low Risk Sleeper- I see him currently the #2 receiver on the depth chart.He's got a new QB who's been productive in the WCO. He says he's got his head screwed on straight and wants to re-ignite his nfl career. He's a former first round pick at the 8 spot. He's had two 1,000 yd. season's in his 6 year career with 3 years of 7td's or more. He's had his share of injuries and other problems which led him to being out of football for a while. He's resurfaced now and is currently the #2 wr on his team according to the depth chart.His name, no outbursts please, is David Boston. In a 3 keeper league I picked him up with my last pick of the draft(18.01). He could end up being a nice sleeper should he be able to rekindle his career. Yeah there's risk but at 18.01 I'd have him as low risk pick that could develop into a high reward player. At the very worst I can drop him for the hot waiver wire pick one week if he doesn't pan out. He would definitely be the comeback player of the year should he put up decent #2 receiver numbers. No doubt he had talent , hopefully it's still with him,being a first round pick and I'd like to see him finally"GET IT" in redeeming himself as a player and person. If you can get him late in your draft and are happy with your current receiver corps he could quite possibly be a big surprise to your roster this year and you could reap the benfits of having him to the dismay of your other league members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 High Reward /Low Risk Sleeper- I see him currently the #2 receiver on the depth chart.He's got a new QB who's been productive in the WCO. He says he's got his head screwed on straight and wants to re-ignite his nfl career. He's a former first round pick at the 8 spot. He's had two 1,000 yd. season's in his 6 year career with 3 years of 7td's or more. He's had his share of injuries and other problems which led him to being out of football for a while. He's resurfaced now and is currently the #2 wr on his team according to the depth chart.His name, no outbursts please, is David Boston. In a 3 keeper league I picked him up with my last pick of the draft(18.01). He could end up being a nice sleeper should he be able to rekindle his career. Yeah there's risk but at 18.01 I'd have him as low risk pick that could develop into a high reward player. At the very worst I can drop him for the hot waiver wire pick one week if he doesn't pan out. He would definitely be the comeback player of the year should he put up decent #2 receiver numbers. No doubt he had talent , hopefully it's still with him,being a first round pick and I'd like to see him finally"GET IT" in redeeming himself as a player and person. If you can get him late in your draft and are happy with your current receiver corps he could quite possibly be a big surprise to your roster this year and you could reap the benfits of having him to the dismay of your other league members. I think that might be a mistake. I've heard other people saying this as well... that he is the #2 WR. But I think that the truth is that he is on the 2nd team, not the #2 WR. This needs to be clarified because I have seen it numerous times now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Add to that list Malcolm Floyd and I would agree. I think Malcolm Floyd will be the #2 in SD even with Craig Davis being drafted. Guy is tall and can catch. If you have later drafts....watch this kid. the thing is....Jackson is 6'5" as well ...(I believe Floyd is 6'5")...but Davis offers something a little different.. I think Floyd would be ideal in the slot while Davis is the #2... then when Parker comes back...he'll likely fit somewhere in between... at least my opinion anyways.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'd go with this too. Glenn was Parcells' boy last year, and Crayton now might be the fastest guy on the team. Plus, Glenn had some funky injuries last year. Even for a Bears fan, that's a silly statement. Crayton has never been a speed guy. He's got decent wheels, but nothing special. Off the top of my head, the following Cowboys are ALL faster than Crayton: T. Owens T. Glenn T. Newman S. Hurd J. Jones T. Thompson A. Glenn K. Davis Don't get me wrong, I like Crayton as a sleeper this year -- I just couldn't ignore a statement so obviously wrong. You can do better than that, Pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Anyone familiar with Todd Lowber? Never played college FB. Played hoops. Vikings tried him out and clocked him at 4.11 and 4.22! They signed him. Now that's past sleeper....more like comatose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudSkipper Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 My WR Sleeper is Brandon Jones in Tenn. Lots of 4th Quarter comeback attempts in Tenn this season and he's a default #1 on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Anyone familiar with Todd Lowber?Never played college FB. Played hoops. Vikings tried him out and clocked him at 4.11 and 4.22! They signed him. Now that's past sleeper....more like comatose! He's not going to make the team. He is the fastest guy on the field, but he just isn't familiar enough with the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Even for a Bears fan, that's a silly statement. Crayton has never been a speed guy. He's got decent wheels, but nothing special. Off the top of my head, the following Cowboys are ALL faster than Crayton: T. Owens T. Glenn T. Newman S. Hurd J. Jones T. Thompson A. Glenn K. Davis Don't get me wrong, I like Crayton as a sleeper this year -- I just couldn't ignore a statement so obviously wrong. You can do better than that, Pope. Well, I WAS talking receivers, and he APPEARED to me to be the deep threat complement to Glenn last year, but I find it hard to believe TO is faster than him. He's never been known for his speed, but rather his strength and size. Addtiionally, Glenn has very certainly lost a step.... Still, I think he's the WR sleeper on the Cowboys, which is what the trhread was about. Honestly - I'd like some Dallas homers chiming in on this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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