The Misfit Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 A judge told suspended Bengals linebacker Odell Thurman today that the NFL was wrong to suspend him for the season after Thurman was convicted of drunken driving. Hamilton County Common Pleas Judge John Burlew called NFL officials “hypocrites” for promoting alcohol consumption during games but punishing players for drinking. This case upsets me more than anything else, primarily ...with the National Football League,” Burlew said. “The allegations are that you had a legal substance – alcohol -- in your body, a substance which they advertise from and get money from, millions of dollars a year from.” Burlew said if the league really wanted to crack down on alcohol abuse, they would give everybody who left a football stadium a blood alcohol test. “You don’t like alcohol, take those Budweiser commercials off TV,” Burlew said. “Stop selling alcohol in the stadium.” Burlew’s comments came as Thurman appeared in court on a probation violation charge. Thurman was suspended last season and for the coming season by the NFL for violating the league’s substance-abuse policy after he was caught drunken driving. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has said Thurman can apply to get back on the field after the 2007 season. The suspension comes after the league put in place a tougher personal-conduct policy to protect the league’s image and reverse the wave of off-field incidents involving players. In June Burlew sentenced Thurman to spend six days in an alcohol treatment program, spend two years on probation and pay a $250 fine on a charge of operating a vehicle while intoxicated. Thurman was charged last September after Cincinnati police stopped him on Kellogg Avenue in the East End and a Breathalyzer test showed Thurman had a blood-alcohol level of 1.8, more than twice Ohio’s legal limit to drive. Thurman said in court that he was an “alcoholic and will be one the rest of my life.” Thurman said after his arrest he spent four months at an in-patient alcohol treatment program followed by out-patient treatment. Thurman was arrested earlier this month for violating his probation by failing to report to his probation officer by July 24. Thurman, who at the time also owed $574 in fees, fines and costs, was arrested on the charge Aug. 7. He is being held at Turning Point, an alcohol-treatment program, pending the outcome of his case. The probation violation case was continued for two weeks to give Thurman time to get a lawyer. Hear ye hear ye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Stick to what you allegedly know best, judgey, and keep your nose out of the business world. You embarrassed yourself badly by dropping trou like you did in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 He's an alcoholic and violated his probation, I see nothing wrong with what Goodell and the league are trying to get across here. This judges analogy is wetodded. So what if the NFL promotes alcohol, are they saying we should drink it everyday, all the time? No, they are advertising a LEGAL product. And they are also punishing players who do things that are ILLEGAL. Thurman has a problem......at least he's man enough to admit it, but he shouldn't be playing football until he's fixed his problems, and clearly he still hasn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 This judges analogy is wetodded. wetodded? Suffering succotash! is wetodded? Dipped in KC Bar-B-Que sauce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 From the urban slang dictionary: wetodded isn't defined yet, but these are pretty close: 1. wetod The name for a dumbass person who has surpassed just retarded. You have now been scarred the name "wetod". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 So htf does hat get onto anything urban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 This case upsets me more than anything else, primarily ...with the National Football League,” Burlew said. “The allegations are that you had a legal substance – alcohol -- in your body, a substance which they advertise from and get money from, millions of dollars a year from.” Are you freaking kidding me? Alcohol may be legal indeed but driving with certain levels in your system are not legal. This judge's credibility comes into question now. What happens when he gets a convicted drunk driver in his court who states he was driving home from an NFL game? Does he let him go? Another moronic, liberal judge set to completely turn our society upside down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 wetodded? Suffering succotash! is wetodded? Dipped in KC Bar-B-Que sauce? Another Huddleism. First used here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 wetodded? Suffering succotash! is wetodded? Dipped in KC Bar-B-Que sauce? NEWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Another Huddleism. First used here Seriously, BJ, you are the sh!t! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Misfit Posted August 21, 2007 Author Share Posted August 21, 2007 Are you freaking kidding me? Alcohol may be legal indeed but driving with certain levels in your system are not legal. This judge's credibility comes into question now. What happens when he gets a convicted drunk driver in his court who states he was driving home from an NFL game? Does he let him go? Another moronic, liberal judge set to completely turn our society upside down... I don't know the judge, but methinks the chance of a judge being a liberal in Cincinnati is pretty much nil. I just thought it was funny. The judge is obviously concerned about the Bengals D this season, even while administering justice. That's how it should be, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 All he had to do was show up by a certain date & pay a $575 fine and he couldn't even do that. He has no one to blame but himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Another moronic, liberal judge set to completely turn our society upside down... Typical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 The NFL supports drunk driving??? Wow, that's news to me. Thanks for pointing that out, judge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Mania Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have no sympathy for Thurman, but..... Has Goodell ever given an explanation for the additional year suspension? Don't you think he oughtta? Shouldn't he say EXACTLY why Thurman was suspended another year, so other teams can tell their players not to do it? Again, read my first line above, I have no sympathy for Thurman. He probably deserves what he gets. His own fault. But, I find it amazing Goodell gets to say no dice on reinstatement w/o a reason given. (It doesn't sound from local news that Thurman or the Bengals were given the reason either) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have no sympathy for Thurman, but..... Has Goodell ever given an explanation for the additional year suspension? Don't you think he oughtta? Shouldn't he say EXACTLY why Thurman was suspended another year, so other teams can tell their players not to do it? Again, read my first line above, I have no sympathy for Thurman. He probably deserves what he gets. His own fault. But, I find it amazing Goodell gets to say no dice on reinstatement w/o a reason given. (It doesn't sound from local news that Thurman or the Bengals were given the reason either) I was pretty certain it was because he didn't meet the terms of his parole & was subsequently arrested yet again. I would be willing to bet Goodell gave both the organization and Thurman his reasons and IMO it should be left up to Thurman and/or the Bengals if they want to make that information public knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Thurman should've been allowed to play this season IMO.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Thurman should've been allowed to play this season IMO.... Yeah & you had the same opinion of Michael Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal Mania Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I would be willing to bet Goodell gave both the organization and Thurman his reasons and IMO it should be left up to Thurman and/or the Bengals if they want to make that information public knowledge. I would think he'd give them his reasons, and I'd agree w/ your statement. But much of what I've read seems to indicate otherwise..... Just strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Yeah & you had the same opinion of Michael Vick. Before he pled guilty.... yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 (edited) didnt thurman get in trouble just before the league denied his suspension? as for the judge.. he is up for re-election in 2008 and is trying to score points with as many bengals fans as he can.. so i dont take anything a politician says, who is about to run for reelection, seriously. Edited August 22, 2007 by jjpro11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizards Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 He's an alcoholic and violated his probation, I see nothing wrong with what Goodell and the league are trying to get across here. This judges analogy is wetodded. So what if the NFL promotes alcohol, are they saying we should drink it everyday, all the time? No, they are advertising a LEGAL product. And they are also punishing players who do things that are ILLEGAL. Thurman has a problem......at least he's man enough to admit it, but he shouldn't be playing football until he's fixed his problems, and clearly he still hasn't. Alcoholism is a disease. Thurman is admitting of having a problem. Judge has a point to the degree that when your family leaves any stadium after a game you run the risk of getting hit, killed, etc by a drunk (.08 or better in a lot of states) driver. Cigarettes are "legal" too, but you can't smoke in most places now (including stadiums)--although there are designated areas. Just because it is legal doesn't mean promotion and sales of one of the largest problems in America (drinking & driving). Most Americans if asked will admit of doing two(three) things that are illegal--speeding and drinking (past the limits set) while driving. Combined they are what statistics and ruined lives are made of....NFL, Nascar, MLB, etc.....are places you want to avoid when the event is over...I would bet that if it was possible to have a check point just as you leave a venue after a game to test drivers, one in two or three would be legally (illegally) drunk! Believe this is what the judge is referring to...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Alcoholism is a disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I wouldn't go there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I wouldn't go there.... I know you wouldn't. I don't have your common sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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