piratesownninjas Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) I don't have a hard on for Betts, I have a hard on for Betts situation. Worst case scenario for Betts? He is used frequently to spell Portis, and comes in on passing downs. They guy is going to have 800 yds rushing (which should be 40% of the team total), He is going to catch 40-50 passes, and he will get some touchdowns along the way as well. Even under those circumstances I contend Betts will match the fantasy points of Jacobs, McAllister, Cadillac and guys in that range. But there is always the possibility that Portis doesn't make it through the season again, and then Betts instantly becomes a top 5 back. I ask. Are my estimations unreasonable? And if not, what's not to like about Betts? It doesn't matter which back is more talented. Has absolutely nothing to do with it. There is no way Betts gets 800 yards rushing. Unless Portis misses a lot of games. You name a bet if you're confident in this prediction. 40-50 receptions isn't out of the question though. I'll also take a bet, if you wan't to make one with him outscoring Deuce. So yeah, I think your estimations are unreasonable. The only way he sniffs 800 is if Portis misses 4+ games. Edited August 27, 2007 by piratesownninjas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 Absolutely... if he's there in the 5th round, it will be hard to pass him up, but I am not spending a 1st, 2nd, or even a 3rd rounder on the guy. Agreed. I wouldn't touch him before round 4 in a 12 teamer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 There is no way Betts gets 800 yards rushing. Unless Portis misses a lot of games. You name a bet if you're confident in this prediction. 40-50 receptions isn't out of the question though.I'll also take a bet, if you wan't to make one with him outscoring Deuce. So yeah, I think your estimations are unreasonable. The only way he sniffs 800 is if Portis misses 4+ games. I am guessing he is saying that the chances of Portis missing 4+ games is high... I hate to draft players on the hopes of injury of another guy, but Betts may be a decent value depending where you have to draft him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 I am guessing he is saying that the chances of Portis missing 4+ games is high... I hate to draft players on the hopes of injury of another guy, but Betts may be a decent value depending where you have to draft him. I don't think so. He said: Worst case scenario for Betts? He is used frequently to spell Portis, and comes in on passing downs. They guy is going to have 800 yds rushing (which should be 40% of the team total), He is going to catch 40-50 passes, and he will get some touchdowns along the way as well. Even under those circumstances I contend Betts will match the fantasy points of Jacobs, McAllister, Cadillac and guys in that range. That isn't Portis hurt, that is even if Portis plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I think that the Broncos swindled Danny Snyder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted August 27, 2007 Author Share Posted August 27, 2007 I think that the Broncos swindled Danny Snyder. Now that is a different story. The shut down CB or the RB. A lot less shut down CB's than good RB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I don't think so. He said: Worst case scenario for Betts? He is used frequently to spell Portis, and comes in on passing downs. They guy is going to have 800 yds rushing (which should be 40% of the team total), He is going to catch 40-50 passes, and he will get some touchdowns along the way as well. Even under those circumstances I contend Betts will match the fantasy points of Jacobs, McAllister, Cadillac and guys in that range. That isn't Portis hurt, that is even if Portis plays. I didn't read it too closely, but I think that is too high of a prediction for Betts without a Portis injury. I don't like Portis much this season, but I certainly am not that high on Betts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 There is no way Betts gets 800 yards rushing. Unless Portis misses a lot of games. You name a bet if you're confident in this prediction. 40-50 receptions isn't out of the question though.I'll also take a bet, if you wan't to make one with him outscoring Deuce. So yeah, I think your estimations are unreasonable. The only way he sniffs 800 is if Portis misses 4+ games. I don't need to make some he-man bet with you about my projections. I put my money where my mouth is by drafting Betts. I think if you look at historical statistical probability in this situation, you would find that Portis' chances of returning to glory are on the slim side. Worst case scenario, Betts hits the numbers I quoted. I think he will do much better than that. I'm just trying to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 "A hard on for Betts" ... not hardly. More I expect that Portis won't be able to stay healthy and is not very likley to play in 10 games this year. And that's the point right there. Portis will get hurt one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 And that's the point right there. Portis will get hurt one way or another. And the only way he might not get hurt, is if he splits the carries with Betts. In either case, I'm riding Betts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moss6 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) I took Portis at 3.03 in Genlost, did not like much of what was left. Reach - probably but he would not have lasted 3-4 more picks. Betts was taken by someone else at 6.04(12 team-18rds) - that was a reach in my opinion, I was hoping to handcuff in the 7.03 -- wishful thinking -- I bet that Portis gets 65%+ carries -- we will see edited for wrong number in 7th Edited August 27, 2007 by Moss6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proninja Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I love Portis in shallow leagues as a lotto ticket. I just took him 3.05 in ECB after taking Parker/Edge in the first two rounds. I can only start two of 'em, but we only start 1RB, 2WR, 1Flex. 3rd round is awfully high to take a bench player, but there's not too many bench players with top 5 potential. In deeper leagues, I probably wouldn't touch him there, because you need those guys to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 And that's the point right there. Portis will get hurt one way or another. He's worn down in the past because Gibbs pounded him way too many times and didn't give him a breather. I think Betts will get a nice amount of touches, enough to keep Portis' fresh. Only time will tell, but I think we see a healthy Portis, Betts, and Redskins run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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