NS UNIT Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I'm thinking I would take Vernon Davis as the #2 TE after Gates is gone just based on this guys potential. Anyone out there agree, or want to slam me on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I'm thinking I would take Vernon Davis as the #2 TE after Gates is gone just based on this guys potential. Anyone out there agree, or want to slam me on this one. I have no problem with somebody believing that Davis will end up being the 2nd overall TE, he does have lots of potential. I'm not sure I buy it but it isn't outside the realm of possibility IMO. Now the trick is to figure out how long you can wait to draft him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS UNIT Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 I have no problem with somebody believing that Davis will end up being the 2nd overall TE, he does have lots of potential. I'm not sure I buy it but it isn't outside the realm of possibility IMO. Now the trick is to figure out how long you can wait to draft him. I did just pick him in a 12 team / 14 round draft league. Managed to pick him up in the 8th round after a run on TE's a round earlier that ignored him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishFreak Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I think he's getting too much love and seems to be over hyped. If he ends up #2 then fine I'm wrong and can handle that but right now I can't take him over much more accomplished players like Heap, Gonzalez, Shockey, etc. Remember this guy is only in his 2nd year and hasn't done squat yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 redraft, keeper, dynasty? any adjustments for te scoring..... could be a nice guy to have long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I just got him in a keeper redraft league in the 9th round. I already had Gates as one of my keepers. I think he is good value there even if it's just to keep him off someone else's roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitpdub Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 The reports in camp is that his hands have improved from last year. The only problem I see is that during preseason he's only caught I think 3 passes. I'm hoping the OC is trying to keep him as our big secret. I'm not yet convinced about A. Smith so until then I dont think Davis should be drafted so high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashHank Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I'm got him on my Dynasty team and couldn't be happier. Anyone that cries on draft day and loves their momma is A-ok by me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I think he's getting too much love and seems to be over hyped. If he ends up #2 then fine I'm wrong and can handle that but right now I can't take him over much more accomplished players like Heap, Gonzalez, Shockey, etc. Remember this guy is only in his 2nd year and hasn't done squat yet. To expand on this, while Davis did have a monsterous combine, he didn't dominate at the college level. He was nowhere near what Kellen Winslow or some others have done, so I ask why is he expected to be able to be the next big thing? Flashy combine numbers are just that... Numbers. I'm not saying he can't turn into this guy that a lot of people believe him destined to be, but I think he has to at least show us something first... I have him rated behind Gates, Winslow, Heap, Cooley and Witten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I took Davis in the 8th... but it's a league with a TE/WR flex position (was on about my 5th beer at that point). I could've taken Hackett and am sort of pissed at myself for not doing so. That said, I'm pretty happy to have him as my #4 at that flex position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I have never seen a tight end like Davis. I have seen him go as early as the #2 tight end taken and as late as #8. He's just all over the place but if you want him badly, you better take him early or risk losing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I have never seen a tight end like Davis. I have seen him go as early as the #2 tight end taken and as late as #8. He's just all over the place but if you want him badly, you better take him early or risk losing him. #2 just sounds insane to me... I think Kellen Winslow is closer to Gates than most, and that there is a hugh drop off after him.KW2 was twice the player Davis was in college, and he appears to be able to live up to his draft hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 (edited) #2 just sounds insane to me... I think Kellen Winslow is closer to Gates than most, and that there is a hugh drop off after him.KW2 was twice the player Davis was in college, and he appears to be able to live up to his draft hype. As DMD said above, I took Davis as the 2nd TE overall just so I wouldn't miss him. I also had the 2nd overall so I REALLY had to speculate as to when he might go which means I probably took him a round too early. But I really had to have him... Davis has a ridiculous ypr for a TE... better than all the big TE names save for Crumpler. Winslow averaged <10ypr. Davis is in his 2nd season. Smith is now in his 3rd season. They probably won't be able to lean on Gore AS MUCH as last season. They added DJax making it less likely that teams can entirely key on Davis. It's relatively low risk in a TE mandatory/non-PPR (5th-8th round draft pick) for a guy that is very capable of putting up Gates-like numbers. About Winslow... the guy is coming off ANOTHER knee procedure this offseason and his QB situation is that much more unclear vs. last season. Winslow might be nice again this year but if you're in a non-PPR league, I see Davis as having MUCH more upside. Edited August 27, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I have him rated behind Gates, Winslow, Heap, Cooley and Witten Gates... 100% agree. Cooley... he's very solid and is a tempting option in his 2nd year in Saunders' system and with Campbell. But is it fair to compare his ceiling to that of Gonzalez, a likely future HOFer? Not really. Heap, Winslow, and Witten... we've pretty much seen what these guys' ceilings are and, again, in Winslow's case he's coming off yet another offseason surgery and entering the season with a carousel at QB. Just my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtdickens Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Took him in the sixth, just ahead of Crumpler and Shockey. I had him on my team last season in a PPR and he was a beast in the few games he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTen Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 To expand on this, while Davis did have a monsterous combine, he didn't dominate at the college level. Neither did Gates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 To expand on this, while Davis did have a monsterous combine, he didn't dominate at the college level. He was nowhere near what Kellen Winslow or some others have done, so I ask why is he expected to be able to be the next big thing? He finished his college career with 1371 yards on 83 receptions for a gaudy 16.5 yards per catch, the best average of any first round tight end ever and more yards than other previous high first round tight ends Tony Gonzalez, Jeremy Shockey, Kyle Brady and Kellen Winslow II. Davis was also voted first team All-American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 If I cant get Gates then I will wait to see what TE I can get from the best of the rest. Hard to predict TEs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Holliday Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I like Vernon Davis alot.I think he will end up a star in the NFL.I do see the skills that is making everyone drool. That being said...I am seeing him go 2 to 3 round before I am even thinking about him in almost every draft I have been in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 He's definately in my top 5, and he's the guy that has the most breakout potential IMO. But for TE I like consistancy - even if you only get me 50-70 yards every game, you're producing. That's why I was targeting Cooley in my auction - he's been a solid healthy producer for a couple years now and will be a great outlet for Campbell - he's also surprisingly athletic over the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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