policyvote Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Okay, here's the deal: I have the rights to Steven Jackson in my MML (auction keeper league). Like Fox Mulder, I WANT to believe that the truth is out there--or, more accurately, that what's out there is the truth. Even given that many of the most important pieces of the Greatest Show on Turf are gone or declining, and even given that St. Louis looks like a team that is thoroughly mediocre, most sites/'zines/radio shows rank the young horse no lower than the third-best RB available, and many put him at #2. I paid $50 out of a $200 cap last year (the first year of bumping up the cap from $150 to $200, so a lot of top guys went for proportionately cheaper). I can keep him for $60 this year, which while a little less than I'd expect him to fetch on the open market, is nowhere near a "steal". Plus, I like to roll with STACKED wide recievers, since they are so drastically undervalued in modern FF. So, spending a bunch of money on a top RB is a little counter to my instincts (and I'm in the midst of a five-year playoff streak, including a title, so this isn't exactly an unproven approach for me). Moreover, we will be instituting a PPR rule this year (one point per two receptions in a conservative performance league), so it seems silly to move AWAY from my usual WR strategy at the same time we institue a rule that would make it work even better. On the other hand, I think Steven Jackson is the single most talented big back to come into the league since Bo Jackson. The guy is just a thoroughbred, and I think that outside of LT2 he's as good as they come in the game today. This opinion cost me last year; $50 for him was considered a bit of an overpayment at the time (though of course I wasn't complaining at the end of the year). I can't decide. Given that I think there are a TON of great undervalued RBs out there for the first time in a while, and moreover the PPR rule looks like it will smooth out the value curve for WRs as much as boost them (i.e., the second- and third-tier guys won't be nearly as far behind the first-tier guys as they used to be), maybe this strategy has merit. With the auction friday night, I'm still waffling on pulling the trigger. So. Convince me. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 (edited) his nickname has 4 letters in it (SJAX) STUD is a FOUR letter word Edited August 28, 2007 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredhoo Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 SJAX is money, pure and simple. He is as close to a sure thing as there is (outside of LT and Manning). He catches the ball. He runs hard. He is great in short yardage situations. And there is this: every year, I draft 4 WOs. Several years, I drop 2, maybe 3 of them. Heck, I took R. Moss last year in the first round (2 player keeper league). WRs are a dime a dozen and each year, several decide to show up and become great #2s. It is much more difficult, in my opinion, to find that kind of RB value. Take Sjax and worry about other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I have the Rams winning the division this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 So you say your league is instituting a PPR system this year. Is that only for wrs? Sjax had 90 receptions last year. Adding PPR to your scoring is all the more reason to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Policy, try this on for size... Inherent in the WR position is that they are in a WRBC. That's a term that no one has had to invent -- as they did with RBBC. There are less and less teams employing a single back now than ever before, so if you have a chance to lock up a non-RBBC back -- who is arguably the second best one -- you do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 his nickname has 4 letters in it (SJAX) STUD is a FOUR letter word My apologies. SJAX it is. I know he's a stud, but I had him last year, too, and I *just* snuck into the playoffs (went absolutely gonzo on RBs/WRs, and skimped just a little bit too much on QB.) I'm going to have to really pony up to raise the ante at QB without falling off too much at WR. Plus, since the cap change resulted in some undervaluing last season, there will be a lot of keepers off the board at QB this year. I gues I'm just gunshy about rolling into the auction with so much of my season riding on one guy, whose team I am not particularly fond of. Did I mention this is a deep-rostered, no-trades league? I normally take the "shotgun" approach of second- and third-tier guys, and it usually works well for me. If I roll with SJAX, my whole season is totally pinned on him. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 SJAX is money, pure and simple. He is as close to a sure thing as there is (outside of LT and Manning). He catches the ball. He runs hard. He is great in short yardage situations. And there is this: every year, I draft 4 WOs. Several years, I drop 2, maybe 3 of them. Heck, I took R. Moss last year in the first round (2 player keeper league). WRs are a dime a dozen and each year, several decide to show up and become great #2s. It is much more difficult, in my opinion, to find that kind of RB value. Take Sjax and worry about other positions. Yeah, but in an auction league, you can rack up the cream of the crop. Last year, my drafted WRs were Chad Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Lee Evans, and Eric Moulds, plus I picked up Colston and Furrey along the way (and yes, we can start 4 WRs). Starting SJAX / CJ / Fitz / Colston/ Evans would have been unstoppable, if only I didn't go quite *so* cheap at QB (McNair! ). While going RB/WR/WR in a draft league could kill you, in an auction league you can get three top 12 guys cheap. Yeah, some still flake out, but no more so than at any other position. Like I said, I've been making money with this strategy for quite a while, so I'm hesitant to move from it. I will admit that you guys are doing a good job of convincing me, however. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I can keep him for $60 this year, which while a little less than I'd expect him to fetch on the open market On the other hand, I think Steven Jackson is the single most talented big back to come into the league since Bo Jackson. The guy is just a thoroughbred, and I think that outside of LT2 he's as good as they come in the game today. Read your own material. Between that & Jackson's track record, if 30% of your cap isn't worth having Jackson on your roster, I'd suggest taking up another hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 So you say your league is instituting a PPR system this year. Is that only for wrs? Sjax had 90 receptions last year. Adding PPR to your scoring is all the more reason to keep him. Actually, no, all our scoring is across-the-board, no different rules for different positions. I didn't realize his receptions were THAT high last year. Dang. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photobiz2 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 You gotta keep SJAX in a PPR league. I'm in a PPR and SJAX was 2nd in scoring last year. Marvin and Chad were 17th and 21st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted August 28, 2007 Author Share Posted August 28, 2007 Read your own material. Between that & Jackson's track record, if 30% of your cap isn't worth having Jackson on your roster, I'd suggest taking up another hobby. NIcely put. It's just that I tried to "go big" on RBs my first couple of years playing FF, and I got righteously burned both times. Part of it was that I didn't go with the right RBs, but it made me consider running counter to the "consensus", and I've been immediately and permanenty successful with it ever since. I was honestly pretty much sold on keeping him well before posting this thread, but looking at what other players I'll be able to rope in given the remainder of my budget is giving me pause. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadman Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I went big on SJax in my auction league to pair him up with Gore (great buy last year, signed for 2 more years.). I think he is one of the two sure fire picks this year...after he and LT I think you can find concerns - or wonderings at least - in all of the other backs. Let alone the receivers - who I think are far more questionable this season than in years past. I'm a hugh fan/proponent of LJ, but realize the concerns there. I have Gore, same thing. And after that, it's each man's opinion on how great these guys are, and for what price. People have raised concerns about all of top receivers - Smith (Car offense worries), CJ (Bengals OL worries, tough division), Holt (Knee and new coaching system), TO (Do I really have to have a reason here?)...etc. Long reason longer, I think you are intelligent to keep him at that price. Closest thing to a sure thing for you as there can be, IMO. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) Just thought you all might like an update. Thanks in VERY small part to the stud, Mr. Jackson (and very LARGE part to one Thomas Edward Brady, Jr.), I ripped off a 10-4 regular season, won my division, clinched a first-round bye, and tonight I took home the championship trophy. Thanks to all for your input. Peace policy Edited December 31, 2007 by policyvote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Just thought you all might like an update. Thanks in VERY small part to the stud, Mr. Jackson (and very LARGE part to one Thomas Edward Brady, Jr.), I ripped off a 10-4 regular season, won my division, clinched a first-round bye, and tonight I took home the championship trophy. I finished runner-up in the league I have SJax in - his injury issues made it a bit dicey mid-season, but when he came back and started producing, it was a nice boost to my team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 I finished runner-up in the league I have SJax in - his injury issues made it a bit dicey mid-season, but when he came back and started producing, it was a nice boost to my team. I was in the exact same boat. I paid $78 out of a $200 cap to keep SJAX and Lee Evans . . . both were nonexistent until Brady tailed off from "white-hot burning rage" to merely "smokin'", then both came back and started producing to keep my output high. The crazy thing about the 10-4 record is that I started off 3-3! Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Just thought you all might like an update. Thanks in VERY small part to the stud, Mr. Jackson (and very LARGE part to one Thomas Edward Brady, Jr.), I ripped off a 10-4 regular season, won my division, clinched a first-round bye, and tonight I took home the championship trophy. Thanks to all for your input. Peace policy yeah I acquired SJax before week 1 and it actually paid off down the stretch....I never gave in.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I think the fact that the guy still broke over a 1,000 while missing 5 games speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) I think the fact that the guy still broke over a 1,000 while missing 5 games speaks volumes. The Rams played at another level when he was playing. If they don't draft 7 O linemen and sign more as FA's they are fools. Edited January 2, 2008 by Randall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) You've got the rights to Jackson & you only have to spend 33% of your cap space to keep him and you seriously are questioning whether you should spend the money or not? Throw him back. You don't deserve him. Let someone else go after the championship with him on their roster. Edited January 2, 2008 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 The Rams played at another level when he was playing. If they don't draft 7 O linemen and sign more as FA's they are fools. You'd think that would be their first pick. I wouldn't put it past them to NOT pickup a O lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 You've got the rights to Jackson & you only have to spend 33% of your cap space to keep him and you seriously are questioning whether you should spend the money or not? Throw him back. You don't deserve him. Let someone else go after the championship with him on their roster. BB-- Re-read the thread, carefully noting the dates. I posted this BEFORE this season--and as it turns out, my ominous feeling about St. Louis was absolutely right! However, I was wise enough to both keep SJAX and pay for Tom Brady. And I won the championship with him on my roster, thankyouverymuch. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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