Sleeping King Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I think everyone has had their fill of the bitch fest that has been going on so I thought we could talk about something a litle more productive. Namely, next year the NFL should finally be able to pass the defensive speaker in the helmet rule. I really do not have an answer off the top of my head as to how it should work since it is not as simple as the QB having a green dot. You know on offense 99.99% of the offensive plays will involve one of the the quarterbacks on the field making it easy to regulate the helmet. On defense I assume they could have a designated captain that carries the speaker, but then you run into the problems of injuries and rotations. I'm sure if push comes to shove, which it has, then the league can find a way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 Valid pt and pretty good idea I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 They talked about this on ESPN or perhaps it was one of the MNF games and it was said that the MLB would probably get the speaker in the helmet but due to the amount of big hits that the guy normally takes in a game, the chance of it going out would be pretty high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping King Posted September 14, 2007 Author Share Posted September 14, 2007 They talked about this on ESPN or perhaps it was one of the MNF games and it was said that the MLB would probably get the speaker in the helmet but due to the amount of big hits that the guy normally takes in a game, the chance of it going out would be pretty high. Yeah it makes sense to either give it to the MLB or the FS as they are the ones generally calling out the defenses. I just do not know how to adjust for say Zach Thomas coming out on a 3rd down. The easy answer is to have his backup have a speaker too, but then what happens when they are on the field at the same time. I'm not sure having 5 extra helmets on the sidelines is the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I would be very surprised if this is not implemented in the next MONTH. The answer is simple, every person that is eligible to carry the "green dot" must have two helmets. I know this could lead to a mistake or two, but would basically solve the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 I would be very surprised if this is not implemented in the next MONTH. The answer is simple, every person that is eligible to carry the "green dot" must have two helmets. I know this could lead to a mistake or two, but would basically solve the problem. You can't implement something like this during the season. There are too many variables, there's no room for error, and everyone is too busy with the season to have a quorum on how it should all happen. Off-season addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I would have a few guys allowed on the field with these helmets. The helmets would be marked. When a helmet was the active radio helmet, an LED on the outside would light. If the helmet is receiving a radio signal, the LED lights. Not too hard to design. Not too hard to implement. IMO this is the best way to handle the situation. Well to be honest, i've only thought about for the last 2 minutes, I could probably do better. But not much. That's a damn good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 IRVING, Texas - Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips wasn't about to pass judgment on the New England Patriots' Video-Gate case sweeping through the NFL this week, but says he was a strong proponent of a rules change proposed by the NFL Competition Committee this spring which would have eliminated the possibility of filming coaches signaling in the defensive play calls: Let the defense have the same coach-to-player communication device the offense has to send in the play to the quarterback. That way, signaling in plays is eliminated, along with the obvious real temptation to somehow steal the signals. "We did vote and I did get up at the meeting to have the defense be able to communicate with the signal caller in the spring and they voted it down," Phillips said here at The Ranch on Wednesday when the subject of the investigation into the Patriots filming the Jets defensive coaches on the sideline Sunday came up. "One of the reasons I got up in front of the whole group when we tried to get it passed and said the very thing, we could take away people trying to cheat, if you want to call it, trying to steal people's signals, if we just do the communication, just like we did on offense." Phillips said he remembers back in the old days when teams spent so much time trying to decipher the offensive signals being sent in. Well, he says, that was all eliminated when the signal-caller was allowed to send the play in directly to the quarterback through the communication device. "If it's out there somebody's going to try to get it," Phillips said. "Baseball, they do it all the time. Once you get the communication through the helmet you can't do it on offense anymore. Well if you do it on defense, they can't do that anymore." The owners, though, did not approve the defensive communication system. The majority thought the league would be unable to legislate which defensive player had the hearing device in his helmet as well as it's monitored with the quarterbacks. The argument was the quarterback or backup quarterback would always be in the game. But on defense, with the increased possibility of injuries and so many different personnel packages being used, you could not limit the hearing device as easily to one player and that multiple players with the hearing device could be on the field at the same time. Thus, as Phillips said, the defensive coaches at times are forced to go through elaborate schemes to protect the signals they send in from being filmed from across the field, including having someone hold a towel up in front of them to block anyone else's view. And just as in baseball, coaches will have indicators to signify the next call is the real one. "I just thought we didn't need to go through that," Phillips said, "but evidently we do because we voted that way." So does Phillips hope this incident will help his cause next year? "I hope so," Phillips said, "because we were the ones who voted for it . . . to me we could just eliminate all of that - it's just messy." As for what punishment the Patriots should receive, Phillips said that's up to the commissioner. But Miami defensive end Jason Taylor, knowing the Dolphins are in the same AFC East as New England, certainly had his opinion on the long-arm of justice. "I think they should have all their games disqualified and not be allowed to make the playoffs for the next four years," Taylor said, tongue firmly planted in cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Just use wristbands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 SK is right...the idea has merit. It's not something to be implemented right now but should be discussed. The offense has seen a number of rulings go to their advantage...it is about time the defense caught up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd74 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 As dumb as some football players are.....it really doesnt matter....... but from what I hear alot of teams already have defensive players have mics in their helmets........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I would have a few guys allowed on the field with these helmets. The helmets would be marked. When a helmet was the active radio helmet, an LED on the outside would light. If the helmet is receiving a radio signal, the LED lights. Not too hard to design. Not too hard to implement. IMO this is the best way to handle the situation. Well to be honest, i've only thought about for the last 2 minutes, I could probably do better. But not much. That's a damn good idea. I like it...because I thought of that myself when at the top of this post.... Hell, it doesn't even have to be as technical as an LED light (although I think that idea is much more this century). It could be an arm band (like a captain in soccer would wear) or a removable patch they can swap on and off.....Adding just another 2 more minutes of thought to yours LosGatos.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 As dumb as some football players are.....it really doesnt matter....... but from what I hear alot of teams already have defensive players have mics in their helmets........ 1. How many players are dumb? Did they just stumble into the NFL? 2. An ellipsis is three periods (dots). Like this"..." 3. Where have you heard defensive players are mic'ed? Do you have a link or are you just posting rubbish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 1. How many players are dumb? Did they just stumble into the NFL?2. An ellipsis is three periods (dots). Like this"..." 3. Where have you heard defensive players are mic'ed? Do you have a link or are you just posting rubbish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I suppose they could try something really radical like having the players play the game instead of a bunch of folks in an upstairs suite shifting people around like old men playing chess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 (edited) As dumb as some football players are.....it really doesnt matter....... but from what I hear alot of teams already have defensive players have mics in their helmets........ 1) Throw that stereotype out the window dude...I wonder if you could learn an Al Saunders playbook 2) Do you have a link to this "defensive players have mics in their helmet?" EDIT to Add: Whoops...just saw your post pirates. Great minds think alike I guess. Edited September 15, 2007 by The Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 What? You mean the other 31 teams should start doing this next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 1. How many players are dumb? Did they just stumble into the NFL?2. An ellipsis is three periods (dots). Like this"..." 3. Where have you heard defensive players are mic'ed? Do you have a link or are you just posting rubbish? Let's give'em a test! Like, before they actually start playing in the NFL. We need a catchy name for the test though... Rocky Bleier spoke at my younger son's college (Missouri State) my son's freshman year and Bleier was hilarious, (since we're on the subject of dumb). He stated that Bradshaw likes to harken back o the good ole days of QBs calling their own plays in the huddle. "That was great for him because we only had three plays". Football player dumb? Let's not open that can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Let's give'em a test! Like, before they actually start playing in the NFL. We need a catchy name for the test though... Rocky Bleier spoke at my younger son's college (Missouri State) my son's freshman year and Bleier was hilarious, (since we're on the subject of dumb). He stated that Bradshaw likes to harken back o the good ole days of QBs calling their own plays in the huddle. "That was great for him because we only had three plays". Football player dumb? Let's not open that can. Have you ever seen a Zach Thomas interview???? He is a great LB though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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