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First of all, anyone who knows me knows that I have supported this Chicago Bears team and all of their weaknesses, especially Rex Grossman. I have praised him when he is great and I have pointed out why he did poorly. Whether it be him wanting to go party on New Years with the girl next door or him complaining his hands are too sweaty for reasons I do not want to know of, Rex has been my quarterback. I criticized others when the blame probably should have squarely been put on him, but that is besides the point, far besides it in my mind right now.

 

People who know me also know that I am a realist, not afraid to admit when something is glaringly wrong. Whether it be the offense, the defense, the coaching, the management, or even Bears fans in general in the perception of this team, I will admit it and I will even more readily admit when I personally am wrong.

 

I have rooted for this team hard. I have been to most of the regular season and all of the postseason games of the past two years. I was there yesterday and watched a Bears team that was favored by double digits win 20-10 to a team that will compete for the worst record in the league. Guaranteed.

 

And I sit here now, back in my fraternity room in Greencastle, Indiana, more than 180 miles away from the house that Halas built near beautiful Lake Michigan, and I ask for one simple thing as a proud Bears fan and more so, a fan of the game of football:

 

To blow this offensive up, from top to bottom. From offensive coordinator, to third string tackle, to the scrub kid that carries a towel for Rex, get rid of them all.

 

It is quite obvious that this team has no confidence in the offense and doesn't believe it to be a necessity to have a championship caliber team. They rely far too heavily on their defense and special teams and it is an embarrassment to the game of football. I remember last week Lovie Smith saying he expects the defense to score points and contribute basically more so than the offense. This is the first problem. For a team in the NFL to go into a game expecting the defense and special teams to do great things and the offense to be average at best is a complete joke and a pitiful representation of the game I root for and love once again. Super Bowl teams have great defenses for sure BUT great offenses, usually top ten.

 

As a relatively young Bears fan, one who was not here for the 85 Bears and does not remember watching the great Walter Payton, I have been raised on the wide known idea that Bears football consists of two simple things: A nasty defense and tough running game that wears out the other defense. Easy, right?

 

Well as a young Bears fan, I say be gone with that philosophy. Throw it to the curb, the road, the back alley, whatever. Spit on it, and tell it you never want to see it in the city of Chicago again. Those days are over. The NFL is a different game now. Offenses do matter and you need to do MUCH more than just run the ball effectively. Yes, it STARTS with the running game, but it for sure doesn't END with it. You need a go to guy. You need a quarterback you have complete confidence. COMPLETE. You need a guy to build the offense around. I don't care if it is the fullback, you need that guy.

 

Now people are going to bash Rex, and that is fine. He blew the second half. Blew. But I don't put the blame squarely on him, once again. Sure the offensive line didn't help him. Simply put though, I put it back to this stupid "Bears" philosophy. Ron Turner looks like he is calling plays out of my "Run n' Gun" playbook in Madden. The first half was a productive half for the most part I thought yesterday. Rex was doing well with short drops and short passes, slants, dumps, curls, swings, etc. Those were working. And we were sustaining drives. Great.

 

Then Ron Turner decided to get cute. He decided he needed to try something different. Fine, different is good, I like different. In all honesty though, I don't even know what that different thing was. That consistency that was there in the first half ran away and was hiding probably in the Field Museum next door. It was a complete joke. Every time Rex dropped back and there was a blitz, I didn't even want him to throw the ball. I just wanted him to throw it away. It should not be that way. EVER.

 

I still think Rex is a good quarterback. But he will never be a good quarterback for this team. Hell, I think he could be great quarterback in the Colts system. He has the talent and he can throw the deep ball. He can do all the things that are required physically. And he isn't stupid, I think. He knows football and he played in a complicated offense under Steve Spurrier.

 

If Turner wants to run a conservative offense, fine, whatever, go with it. But stay with it. Don't be stupid. Don't put Rex in situations where he WILL mess up. It is a given and it is so predictable, both when he will mess up and what the Bears will do. It is a complete joke and a disgrace to what Bears fans should be seeing.

 

They have the talent on that side of the ball. Berrian is one of the faster guys in the league, Muhsin is a great possession wide out, Davis a great slot, and Bradley a great up and comer in many roles. Clark can be ok. And Benson is a great straight ahead runner. No tosses, no sweeps, STRAIGHT AHEAD! Olsen should be great. SHOULD BE. But I know he won't be. Because Turner won't know how to use him. Bring back Kurt Kittner, maybe then Turner will have some confidence in himself. Jesus Christ.

 

This team needs to get someone new for offense. I want someone completely unrelated to the Bears. I want someone that has no relationship with the Bears. No former player, no brother of a player, no father, no person with a single chromosome of orange and blue. Bring in June Jones, bring in Norm Chow, bring in Mike Leach, bring in Steve Sarkisian, bring in Jeff Tedford, bring in the guy who runs the pee wee league in the town next door, I don't care. I want something different. REALLY DIFFERENT. Bring in a new gameplan for offense, stick to it, and draft the player you need and want. Hell, draft a quarterback for the next ten years because you are bound to get one good one. This franchise is cursed with quarterbacks. In the last sixty years, this team has not had a good quarterback really. Jim McMahon was ok but he couldn't stay healthy.

 

But you know what? The idea of bringing in a new offensive coordinator is nothing but a silly dream. It won't happen. Because the Bears WILL NOT shed that mindset and philosophy. They will not, they will not. THEY WILL NOT. And they will not pony up the money for a top flight coordinator like one of those guys. Not a chance. Not while McCaskey is there and not while Angelo is running the team. And that pains me. Teams around the league are paying top dollar to coordinators and know the value they have. The Bears barely paid there head coach. It is so disappointing.

 

I am embarrassed for this offense and I know for a fact that this team will not win the Super Bowl. I am done and I almost ready to give the division crown to the Packers. Almost. I will be going home again for the game next week and I can only hope that Terrell Owens doesn't do something just plain filthy to this team. Hester, you are our only hope. Go get em' Superman. I'm done.

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I think Jeff George is out there?

 

All kidding aside, time is running out on this team. The defense has been superb for quite a few years now and are still a championship caliber defense. How long can they sustain that?

 

I wanted to see Jeff George take some snaps. Seriously.

 

I remember people wanted Jeff Garcia. Hell, I wanted him. But he would have been poor in this offense. He wouldn't be able to show his strengths. Another reason why the Bears need to shed this mindset on offense. Bring in Steve Mariucci, I don't care. OC I am talking about of course.

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First of all, anyone who knows me knows that I have supported this Chicago Bears team and all of their weaknesses, especially Rex Grossman. I have praised him when he is great and I have pointed out why he did poorly. Whether it be him wanting to go party on New Years with the girl next door or him complaining his hands are too sweaty for reasons I do not want to know of, Rex has been my quarterback. I criticized others when the blame probably should have squarely been put on him, but that is besides the point, far besides it in my mind right now.

 

People who know me also know that I am a realist, not afraid to admit when something is glaringly wrong. Whether it be the offense, the defense, the coaching, the management, or even Bears fans in general in the perception of this team, I will admit it and I will even more readily admit when I personally am wrong.

 

I have rooted for this team hard. I have been to most of the regular season and all of the postseason games of the past two years. I was there yesterday and watched a Bears team that was favored by double digits win 20-10 to a team that will compete for the worst record in the league. Guaranteed.

 

And I sit here now, back in my fraternity room in Greencastle, Indiana, more than 180 miles away from the house that Halas built near beautiful Lake Michigan, and I ask for one simple thing as a proud Bears fan and more so, a fan of the game of football:

 

To blow this offensive up, from top to bottom. From offensive coordinator, to third string tackle, to the scrub kid that carries a towel for Rex, get rid of them all.

 

It is quite obvious that this team has no confidence in the offense and doesn't believe it to be a necessity to have a championship caliber team. They rely far too heavily on their defense and special teams and it is an embarrassment to the game of football. I remember last week Lovie Smith saying he expects the defense to score points and contribute basically more so than the offense. This is the first problem. For a team in the NFL to go into a game expecting the defense and special teams to do great things and the offense to be average at best is a complete joke and a pitiful representation of the game I root for and love once again. Super Bowl teams have great defenses for sure BUT great offenses, usually top ten.

 

As a relatively young Bears fan, one who was not here for the 85 Bears and does not remember watching the great Walter Payton, I have been raised on the wide known idea that Bears football consists of two simple things: A nasty defense and tough running game that wears out the other defense. Easy, right?

 

Well as a young Bears fan, I say be gone with that philosophy. Throw it to the curb, the road, the back alley, whatever. Spit on it, and tell it you never want to see it in the city of Chicago again. Those days are over. The NFL is a different game now. Offenses do matter and you need to do MUCH more than just run the ball effectively. Yes, it STARTS with the running game, but it for sure doesn't END with it. You need a go to guy. You need a quarterback you have complete confidence. COMPLETE. You need a guy to build the offense around. I don't care if it is the fullback, you need that guy.

 

Now people are going to bash Rex, and that is fine. He blew the second half. Blew. But I don't put the blame squarely on him, once again. Sure the offensive line didn't help him. Simply put though, I put it back to this stupid "Bears" philosophy. Ron Turner looks like he is calling plays out of my "Run n' Gun" playbook in Madden. The first half was a productive half for the most part I thought yesterday. Rex was doing well with short drops and short passes, slants, dumps, curls, swings, etc. Those were working. And we were sustaining drives. Great.

 

Then Ron Turner decided to get cute. He decided he needed to try something different. Fine, different is good, I like different. In all honesty though, I don't even know what that different thing was. That consistency that was there in the first half ran away and was hiding probably in the Field Museum next door. It was a complete joke. Every time Rex dropped back and there was a blitz, I didn't even want him to throw the ball. I just wanted him to throw it away. It should not be that way. EVER.

 

I still think Rex is a good quarterback. But he will never be a good quarterback for this team. Hell, I think he could be great quarterback in the Colts system. He has the talent and he can throw the deep ball. He can do all the things that are required physically. And he isn't stupid, I think. He knows football and he played in a complicated offense under Steve Spurrier.

 

If Turner wants to run a conservative offense, fine, whatever, go with it. But stay with it. Don't be stupid. Don't put Rex in situations where he WILL mess up. It is a given and it is so predictable, both when he will mess up and what the Bears will do. It is a complete joke and a disgrace to what Bears fans should be seeing.

 

They have the talent on that side of the ball. Berrian is one of the faster guys in the league, Muhsin is a great possession wide out, Davis a great slot, and Bradley a great up and comer in many roles. Clark can be ok. And Benson is a great straight ahead runner. No tosses, no sweeps, STRAIGHT AHEAD! Olsen should be great. SHOULD BE. But I know he won't be. Because Turner won't know how to use him. Bring back Kurt Kittner, maybe then Turner will have some confidence in himself. Jesus Christ.

 

This team needs to get someone new for offense. I want someone completely unrelated to the Bears. I want someone that has no relationship with the Bears. No former player, no brother of a player, no father, no person with a single chromosome of orange and blue. Bring in June Jones, bring in Norm Chow, bring in Mike Leach, bring in Steve Sarkisian, bring in Jeff Tedford, bring in the guy who runs the pee wee league in the town next door, I don't care. I want something different. REALLY DIFFERENT. Bring in a new gameplan for offense, stick to it, and draft the player you need and want. Hell, draft a quarterback for the next ten years because you are bound to get one good one. This franchise is cursed with quarterbacks. In the last sixty years, this team has not had a good quarterback really. Jim McMahon was ok but he couldn't stay healthy.

 

But you know what? The idea of bringing in a new offensive coordinator is nothing but a silly dream. It won't happen. Because the Bears WILL NOT shed that mindset and philosophy. They will not, they will not. THEY WILL NOT. And they will not pony up the money for a top flight coordinator like one of those guys. Not a chance. Not while McCaskey is there and not while Angelo is running the team. And that pains me. Teams around the league are paying top dollar to coordinators and know the value they have. The Bears barely paid there head coach. It is so disappointing.

 

I am embarrassed for this offense and I know for a fact that this team will not win the Super Bowl. I am done and I almost ready to give the division crown to the Packers. Almost. I will be going home again for the game next week and I can only hope that Terrell Owens doesn't do something just plain filthy to this team. Hester, you are our only hope. Go get em' Superman. I'm done.

 

 

For Christ's Sake. Who wants to read that?

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funny, you could replace the words "Chicago Bears" for "New York Giants", "Offence" for "Defence", and "Offensive player name" for "Defensive player name" and it would sum up my feelings as well.

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Too bad you guys snoozed on Charlie Frye. More losses are on the way.

 

 

For Christ's Sake. We have new Menudo.

 

 

For Christ's Sake. Who wants to read that?

 

 

Look at me.Look at me....making a statement about my team. :D

 

So um... Bush... do you not like Goopster? :D

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Goopster I feel your pain man, I am australian and have been a Bears fan since about 1991 and outside of a couple of flickering moments there has been very little to cheer about. The window of opportunity will start to close rapidly after this season we will lose Lance Briggs which regardless of what anyone says he will be a massive loss, Urlacher is not getting any younger and he is the heart and soul of that defense, The secondary looks more and more fragile everytime I see it however I do think the D'line looks better than last year although I didn't see todays game so I amnot sure how they went.

 

I don't know what to make out of Rex at times I love what he does he has confidence in himself which is something that no QB outside of possibly Erik Kramer I have seen play for the bears has had and he can wing the ball a bit, but he just has those couple of throws or a period in a game where he just goes ice cold and nothing he does works and that rared it's ugly head again today. His bad throws are coming when he doesn't plant his feet and he tries to throw off his back foot however Turner I think is as much to blame as Rex there, He should know by now what his limitations are and also what the offensive lines limitations are they cannot block for long periods of time they are an experienced unit however they are no longer a very good unit and I am still pissed we didn't draft a single lineman.

 

I also feel Rex could be successful in this league but I think that Ron Turner really needs to go, I for one was excited when Turner came in he had been successful as a coordinator here before but this time around his offense looks very average indeed with little or no adjustments happening at half time to what the opposition defense is doing. Don't get me wrong Rex has to get some of the blame aswell but Turner deserves all of what he is copping aswell.

 

The tools certainly are there guys like Berrian and Bradley should be a very good air of WRs and Clark and Olsen will help down the seems aswell and obviously the more successful that they all become the easier it then becomes for Benson to do something. I don't know that getting rid of Turner will solve the problems all together but I doubt it will get any worse.

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It would appear that nothing will change in CHI until someone gets hold of the pictures that Grossman has of Lovie & some livestock and destroys them. The answer is sitting on CHI's bench & Lovie apparently won't even think of benching Grossman for Griese. Throwing Jones away to make Benson their #1 RB doesn't help at all either.

 

Lovie's ego is getting in the way. Badly.

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Does it matter or change things because it's week #2? Come on. Goopsters right. Time for some changes in Chicago. I can see it from here and it's right under your nose :D

 

 

If you're referring to Griese being the only tweak needed to get to th big show - right back at you.

 

The fact is, it IS week 2, the plane door has closed and we're stuck on board for 2007 with who we've got. I'm not going to bail on them just yet, not when they're about to lose to Dallas and Green Bay en route to a 2-3 start. We're not getting a new OC until the off-season -if that- and this is Rex's make or break year. Like it or not, he's earned this shot. And if we have to use Griese through next year to wait out McNabb's eventual arrival, so be it.

 

The thread is around here somewhere, but if I recall the best of any replacement options that the Bears could have used were Jeff Garcia, Trent Green and someone else who was 35+. Brees was passed on 2 years ago, but his shoulder was thought to be hamburger at that point, and the Bears couldn't have attached his salary structure to their cap plans anyways.

 

Bottom line: there's no quick fix for this. Also who realistically expected them to come out like they did last year. If anything got learned, that's how you want to finish.

 

So get back in your seat and quit freaking out. If you think the plane is going to crash already, I say it's too early to tell.

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Agreed that Ron Turner needs to go. His Al Davis-style vertical offense is retarded for a team whose strength is defense and plays in the cold for much of November and December. They overpaid for Mushin Muhammad and it doesn't look like he can get open anymore. I'd show him and fellow dinosaur Ruben Brown walking papers as well. That said, there's still a lot of talent there worth keeping (Kreutz, Tait, Berrian).

 

And, IIRC, Rex's contract is up after this season. He'll be shown the door as well, and it'll be a good thing for him. But unlike you, I'm not convinced that he'll be successful in another system. While Rex may have all of the physical tools, he's lacking in between the ears. And that doesn't necessarily mean that he's stupid. IMO, his problems stem from confidence and maturity issues. Overconfident Rex tends to "play Favre" at times by trying to thread balls into double coverage. But when he gets picked off, he morphs into Underconfident Rex and tries desperately to make another big play to make up for his previous gaffe... and this usually results in another turnover, and the cycle continues. And then there's the maturity issues: Rex not preparing for the New Year's Eve game last season because his mind was on partying later that night. And Rex going off on the press during Super Bowl Media Week about how they shouldn't criticize him because they don't know how hard it is to be an NFL QB. :D Age can fix maturity issues, but if Rex is still so lacking in confidence in his fifth season at age 27, I don't see that changing any time soon. I know a guy in his mid-40's who played college baseball and can still throw an 80 mph fastball accurately and hit with power to the opposite field, who takes himself out of beer league softball games against good teams because he's afraid that he'll make a mistake.

 

I feel sorry for you guys. The Bears were a proud organization when I began following them back in the early '80s, but years of bad drafting have killed them on the field. Their Cubs-like "we don't need to win, the fans will come anyway" attitude was disgustingly pervasive throughout the '90s. And putting that Euro-trash facade on Soldier Field was the last straw for me. I wish you guys luck but, even with Peyton and Marvin retiring in the next 5-8 years, I still think that the Colts will still be in a better position to win a decade from now than the Bears.

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Everybody has made solid points but I would like to address a couple:

 

First all, Brian Griese is not the answer for this team. He blows and I have more confidence in Rex than Griese. And that's the same with the coaching staff. Rex has better talent and may make a stupid decision here or there, but I feel Griese would do that two fold.

 

Obviously we are stuck with what we got but it's annoying to watch this be the product. If Griese is the filler next year until we find someone else, I agree with Pope and let it be. But it starts with the offensive gameplan and I am sick of this crap. We as Bears fans should be ashamed that we are watching this unfold and somewhat root for it to happen.

 

And I am still reluctant to say Thomas Jones being gone is the key for struggles. Cedric had over 100 yards yesterday, a dirty 100 but 100 nonetheless. I am fine with him but you have to use him properly. AND THEY ARE NOT. It's absolute BS and there is nothing more to it.

 

I am as big of a McNabb supporter there is. He is my favorite player in the NFL but he wouldn't do Sega! in this offense the way it is. Ron Turner needs to go. A new draft strategy needs to take place. We have depth on the defense, let's go after the other side. Randy Moss was there for the picking. We could have had Jarrett. Trent Edwards was also available. This next draft is crucial as the Bears defense still has a window to be an elite one.

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Is this all because you traded away Chad Johnson and a draft pick for Cedric Benson. :D

 

In all honesty, I am still fine with that trade. Especially if Turner is gone after this season. I hope he gets a job sacking lunches at Illinois. What a joke that family is. They should be bagged and thrown off a bridge and not come back to society.

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To an extent saying Griese is the answer is oversimplifying the Bears' offensive woes. However, to say Griese blows or wouldn't make any difference is also oversimplifying his effect.

 

The Bears have a great D, great special teams, and a pretty good OL. Griese has a career passer rating of 84.5. Rex is 71.1.

 

For a team that has so many other strengths, that seemingly marginal difference in efficiency, not to mention consistency, can NOT be diminished for a team built like the Bears.

 

Some might say that Griese doesn't have anything left... he did OK on a Tampa team trying to rebuild their OL as recently as 2 years ago. 3 years he almost logged a 100 passer rating for that same rebuilding team.

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