LooGie Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Of his eight-catch, 153-yard, three-touchdown game, Smith said: 'At the end (of the season), you look at statistics. Right now, we lost. So, `Yay for me?' Nah. Offensively, we did not do a good job.' http://www.topix.net/content/kri/2007/09/i...d-use-a-co-star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 ...give Jarrett a try....I mean geez they drafted him...give him a try in the red zone!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 It's almost as though Steve Smith is so good, that he's become bad for the offense. Instead of diversifying, they have become increasingly reliant on Smith's big play ability, letting all other facets of the offense suffer. Carolina hasn;t had a reliable ground game since when? Stephen Davis? Couldn;t just about any NFL quarterback put up the same stats Delhomme has if he had a smitty to throw to? Without Smith, the Panthers are one of the most anemic offenses in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 ...give Jarrett a try....I mean geez they drafted him...give him a try in the red zone!!! the problem is no one but Smith shows anything. Carter BARELY beat Jarret out in the pre-season, and honestly, he probably didn't, they just wanted to motivate Jarret. Then, week 1, 2 red zone TDs and you can't help but think he's finally going to do it. Then week 2, he pulls this crap. We should make a trade for a valid WR and be done with it. Bench Carter, put in Jarret a few times a game. I dont know why we need Smith caliber players to have any WR's that are worthy. Biggest mistake was letting Moose walk. Sure Smith picked up and then some for him, but then we let Keyshawn go. Fox is too loyal to the crappy ones, and not loyal enough to the good ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 Fox is too loyal to the crappy ones, and not loyal enough to the good ones. Agreed. I am beginning to feel that player loyalty is major concern for Fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 It's almost as though Steve Smith is so good, that he's become bad for the offense. Instead of diversifying, they have become increasingly reliant on Smith's big play ability, letting all other facets of the offense suffer. Carolina hasn;t had a reliable ground game since when? Stephen Davis? Couldn;t just about any NFL quarterback put up the same stats Delhomme has if he had a smitty to throw to? Without Smith, the Panthers are one of the most anemic offenses in the NFL. You have a valid point, but you forget that any offense would feed the ball to their #1 playmaker. SD fed LT the ball last year. Eli feeds Plax the ball (when he's not hurt) Palmer feeds Chad the ball. KC fed LJ the ball. What you're forgetting is, all those teams have other big name players. Respectively: Gates, Tiki, Housh, um..LJ in the passing game. CAR lacks that other big name. Foster is the biggest anchor I've ever seen. But, I believe what you're saying has more to do with the play of Delhomme. Delhomme relies on Smith too much (and why shouldn't he? nobody has ever stepped up, except Moose, and they let him walk) but he's hit the new TE more than most receivers in the past years, and certainly more than the TEs of the past. So, while he certainly looks for Smith, regardless of the situation ("OH MY GOD--BLITZ!!! I BETTER REAR BACK AND LET HER LOOSE TO SMITTY 75 YARDS DOWNFIELD...ah man..INT..") he has proven he will goto whoever is stepping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 You have a valid point, but you forget that any offense would feed the ball to their #1 playmaker. SD fed LT the ball last year. Eli feeds Plax the ball (when he's not hurt) Palmer feeds Chad the ball. KC fed LJ the ball. What you're forgetting is, all those teams have other big name players. Respectively: Gates, Tiki, Housh, um..LJ in the passing game. CAR lacks that other big name. Foster is the biggest anchor I've ever seen. But, I believe what you're saying has more to do with the play of Delhomme. Delhomme relies on Smith too much (and why shouldn't he? nobody has ever stepped up, except Moose, and they let him walk) but he's hit the new TE more than most receivers in the past years, and certainly more than the TEs of the past. So, while he certainly looks for Smith, regardless of the situation ("OH MY GOD--BLITZ!!! I BETTER REAR BACK AND LET HER LOOSE TO SMITTY 75 YARDS DOWNFIELD...ah man..INT..") he has proven he will goto whoever is stepping up. But, the better Steve Smith has gotten, the worse the rest of the Panther offense has gotten, and thusly, the entire Panther Team. I bet if you charted Smitty's success vs. the Panthers success, they would be inversely propotionate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 I'm no Carolina expert but they strike me as an RBBC team that is being hurt more than helped by their RB situation. (Disclosure: I don't own any Panther RBs) How consistent can your offense be if, for example, you keep swapping out the OL, QB, or WRs? Some teams don't lose a step with their RBBC but Carolina's result is inconsistency from both RBs and so goes an offense that sputters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSULions Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 the problem is no one but Smith shows anything. Carter BARELY beat Jarret out in the pre-season, and honestly, he probably didn't, they just wanted to motivate Jarret. Then, week 1, 2 red zone TDs and you can't help but think he's finally going to do it. Then week 2, he pulls this crap. We should make a trade for a valid WR and be done with it. Bench Carter, put in Jarret a few times a game. I dont know why we need Smith caliber players to have any WR's that are worthy. Biggest mistake was letting Moose walk. Sure Smith picked up and then some for him, but then we let Keyshawn go. Fox is too loyal to the crappy ones, and not loyal enough to the good ones. I have read some more items on this from the local papers here and it seems as that the little hammy problem that Jarrett had has set him back a little for being ready to play. Add in the fact he doesn't play special teams the elected to have him "Inactive" for the game. Once they look at the film of Colbert's drops, my guess is that Jarrett will be "Active" assuming he has a good week of practice. I too am starting to second guess Fox's loyalty of some of the guys like Rucker and Foster as they seem unable to get the job done on a regular basis. Let McGlover, Johnson, Jarrett and DeAngelo start getting real playing time and see what they can do... It can't be worse than the lack of effort I saw from everyone except SS yesterday... If the Panthers don't make the Playoffs in our weak division, I think Jerry may finally clean house and let Fox go to get new blood in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted September 17, 2007 Author Share Posted September 17, 2007 But, the better Steve Smith has gotten, the worse the rest of the Panther offense has gotten, and thusly, the entire Panther Team. I bet if you charted Smitty's success vs. the Panthers success, they would be inversely propotionate. Yes, but that is not because of how Smiity has done. It's because there hasn't been anyone else to go to. Our RB situation is the laughing stock of the NFL. No team will go anywhere w/o a running game. We rode Smitty hard to the NFC championship game a few years back, but w/o him, we're going nowhere. It's not because they're not creative and not because they only goto Smith, it's because there is no other place to go, other than Smith. I'm no Carolina expert but they strike me as an RBBC team that is being hurt more than helped by their RB situation. (Disclosure: I don't own any Panther RBs) How consistent can your offense be if, for example, you keep swapping out the OL, QB, or WRs? Some teams don't lose a step with their RBBC but Carolina's result is inconsistency from both RBs and so goes an offense that sputters. There is no need for a RBBC here. It is absolutely hurting them, more than helping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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