Grits and Shins Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Is it just my leauge ... or do you often get ludicrous trade offers from other owners in your leagues? I understand the whole concept of making an offer with the idea of negotiating to the deal you really want/are willing to accept ... but don't you have to begin with a reasonable offer in the first place? I drafted LT in my local league and the guy that drafted Turner made me the following offer: Turner + Stokley for Roy Williams Is there anybody in their right mind that wouldn't laugh off that trade even if you are the LT owner? Maybe he should have asked for Roy Wiliams AND DeAngelo Williams to make it a balanced trade. [EDIT] I just noticed that he acquired Stokley today in free agency!! Early in the week I acquired Avant and could have picked up Stokley had I wanted him. I guess he thinks Turner is the deal maker. Edited September 19, 2007 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I rate that trade as a 1.833601. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Is it just my leauge ... or do you often get ludicrous trade offers from other owners in your leagues? I understand the whole concept of making an offer with the idea of negotiating to the deal you really want/are willing to accept ... but don't you have to begin with a reasonable offer in the first place? I drafted LT in my local league and the guy that drafted Turner made me the following offer: Turner + Stokley for Roy Williams Is there anybody in their right mind that wouldn't laugh off that trade even if you are the LT owner? Maybe he should have asked for Roy Wiliams AND DeAngelo Williams to make it a balanced trade. OMG +1 Had this gem on the table from some clown last week: A. Gonzalez and R. McMichael for Adrian Peterson (MIN, of course). It's downright insulting. But, no matter the trade offer I try and stay civil to keep the door open for a trade down the road. It was reeeally tough with this guy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Wrong forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Wrong forum. It is? Should be in "advice"? Is there a "frustration complaints" forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMikeinNY Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I always counter offer with a more ridiculous trade so they get the point.....Something along the lines of: Palmer, Bush, Steve Smith and Gates for Vince Young After I do that in return, they usually get the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I always counter offer with a more ridiculous trade so they get the point.....Something along the lines of: Palmer, Bush, Steve Smith and Gates for Vince Young After I do that in return, they usually get the point +1, this approach usually does the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 [sarcasm]Wrong forum.[/sarcasm] It is? Should be in "advice"? Is there a "frustration complaints" forum? Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 I just noticed that he acquired Stokley today in free agency!! Early in the week I acquired Avant and could have picked up Stokley had I wanted him. I guess he thinks Turner is the deal maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I was just offered Wes Welker & Julius Jones for Marshawn Lynch & Santonio Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Fixed Oooohh... saaaarrrrcasm. It's not as if sarcasm is ever obvious or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I was just offered Wes Welker & Julius Jones for Marshawn Lynch & Santonio Holmes. I countered with Lynch & Holmes for Holt...he counters with SJax & Holmes for Holt & Julius Jones...I countered with f*ck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 I countered with Lynch & Holmes for Holt...he counters with SJax & Holmes for Holt & Julius Jones...I countered with f*ck it. Rajn...how long was your Avatar bet for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Rajn...how long was your Avatar bet for? The end of September. The worst part is I have a hard time discerning my posts from Swerski's. Edited September 19, 2007 by rajncajn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 The end of September. Phew....that's a pretty brutal one. It's definitely throwing me...I keep thinking Swerski. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 The same owner offered me: Ted Ginn for Caddilac Williams then Roethlisberger for Frank Gore I countered the last one with Matt Stover for Peyton Manning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 I just countered with My Alex Smith + Demetrius Williams for his Tony Romo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Is it just my leauge ... or do you often get ludicrous trade offers from other owners in your leagues? I understand the whole concept of making an offer with the idea of negotiating to the deal you really want/are willing to accept ... but don't you have to begin with a reasonable offer in the first place? I drafted LT in my local league and the guy that drafted Turner made me the following offer: Turner + Stokley for Roy Williams Is there anybody in their right mind that wouldn't laugh off that trade even if you are the LT owner? Maybe he should have asked for Roy Wiliams AND DeAngelo Williams to make it a balanced trade. In one league I'm in, one owner continually offers trades like this. We go over it on the league message board and he always comes back with, "it's just to get the negotiation going" and "make a counter". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Note to the world: I am not a party to any of these trade discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeteebee Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Note to the world: I am not a party to any of these trade discussions. I can't imagine why you would feel the need to post that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imageek Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Unfortunately in every league around the country there is the guy that over value's his players. Our league is no different. The guy in our league is the king of picking up a waiver wire guy that was hot for one week and then offering him to everyone in the league for a tier one or teir two guy. The move that kills me the most is the one GM that offers up his worst guy on his roster to everyone in the league for one other their starters, then three days later you see that same player on the waiver wire. I guess I don't blame some one for trying to get something for crap but 6 times a year is too much to offer up Joe Jerivicious for my top point getter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I just got a real nice one today. He offered me: Vernand Morency Ronald Curry for: Travis Henry Santonio Holmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 His response to my counters offer of Alex Smith + Demetrius Williams for Tony Romo Comments: Is Alex smith even a starter on your team. At least through in a starter and MAYBE I will think about it. So I offered Jason Campbell + D.Williams for Romo ... if he doesn't like that I will tell him he can have Roddy White instead of Williams ... if he doesn't like that I will tell him he can have Shaun McDonald. I am amazed that he offered "consideration". He may be angling for Vince Young ... if this was all about getting Vince Young I will have to strongly consider giving him Vince + DWilliams for Romo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmanx Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I countered with Lynch & Holmes for Holt...he counters with SJax & Holmes for Holt & Julius Jones...I countered with f*ck it. Maybe it's just me I don't really think that the initial offer (Welker/Jones for Lynch/Holmes) is ridiculous. Lopsided, yes? But certainly not ridiculous like the original posters example. I think a lot of times the owner that receives an offer and finds it ridiculous is making the same mistake as the guy who made the offer. Both are simply overvaluing their own players. This obviously isn't always the case as evidenced by the truly ridiculous offers in this thread. I don't think SJax & Holmes for Holt & Julius Jones qualifies as ridiculous either. On it's face, it seems uneven, but given the right rosters this trade may actually be reasonable for both teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kicker77 Posted September 21, 2007 Share Posted September 21, 2007 He may be angling for Vince Young ... if this was all about getting Vince Young I will have to strongly consider giving him Vince + DWilliams for Romo. It's amazing how many deals I've made which started out with the other owner making me a ridiculous offer first. Yes, some people just way over value their players, but if you take even a ridiculous offer seriously and counter a few times, it may pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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