dave41 Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 If anyone was watching the Redskins/Giants game yesterday, I have a question. There was a fumble around the 8 min. mark in the 4th qtr. when Cambell handed the ball off to Portis. I was playing against Portis and immediately following the game, the fumble was given to Portis (hence losing two points) and I had won by two points. However, about two hours later, for whatever reason, NFL.com and the site we use switched the fumble to Cambell and Portis was given back the two points. I ended up losing in the tiebreaker. Obviously I am furious, just looking for anyone else thoughts on this b.s.??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Rookie Me........ Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Tough loss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Pat!!! Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 If anyone was watching the Redskins/Giants game yesterday, I have a question. There was a fumble around the 8 min. mark in the 4th qtr. when Cambell handed the ball off to Portis. I was playing against Portis and immediately following the game, the fumble was given to Portis (hence losing two points) and I had won by two points. However, about two hours later, for whatever reason, NFL.com and the site we use switched the fumble to Cambell and Portis was given back the two points. I ended up losing in the tiebreaker. Obviously I am furious, just looking for anyone else thoughts on this b.s.??? Should have never been given to Portis in the first place. Campbell reached out to hand it off and it hit Portis's forearm. Campbell's fumble the entire way. Sorry dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCDOG Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I was on the good end of that ruling and I think the reason a fumble on a handoff is given to the QB is because the RB never has "possession" of the ball in the first place and can therefore not fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 A fumble on a handoff is given the the one handing it off unless it is shown that it was a clean handoff then a fumble, in this case it would go th Campbell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Yep, you have to have "possession" before you can fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF409ers Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 As someone who started Campbell I was just as pissed. However I'm guessing since they claim Portis never had possession the fumble goes to the QB. This happened to me also in game 1 this year when P Rivers was credited with a fumble at the goal line for a bad snap even though he never physically touched the football. I don't know what the official rule states about that one either but I was not happy to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) Obviously I am furious, just looking for anyone else thoughts on this b.s.???The NFL corrected an improper stat. How is that BS? If they would have immediately given it to Campbell you would never have seen the negative points so you would have lost still anyways. But I'm sure that if the tables were turned and you lost by a point or two because a stat that was suppose to go your way mistakenly went against you, you wouldn't accept the corrected stats and still have taken the loss..right? In my leagues, scores aren't usually finalized until Tuesday or Wednesday. They usually don't change much, but they do change. Edited September 25, 2007 by cdrudge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 If anyone was watching the Redskins/Giants game yesterday, I have a question. There was a fumble around the 8 min. mark in the 4th qtr. when Cambell handed the ball off to Portis. I was playing against Portis and immediately following the game, the fumble was given to Portis (hence losing two points) and I had won by two points. However, about two hours later, for whatever reason, NFL.com and the site we use switched the fumble to Cambell and Portis was given back the two points. I ended up losing in the tiebreaker. Obviously I am furious, just looking for anyone else thoughts on this b.s.??? Something you should add to your league next year is something mine and other leagues have: occasionally stats are revised during the week as Elias sorts through some of the stuff. Generally speaking these revisions are sacks and yard revisions. Our rules allow for these changes to become official if they're made and presented to the commish prior to the next week's kickoffs. You really weren't screwed here though - they made a mistake and fixed it, seeing as how Portis never got a chance to carry the ball (hence he couldn't have fumbled) you should see it as a warning shot that this type of thing could happen in a playoff game, and all hell could break loose as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41 Posted September 25, 2007 Author Share Posted September 25, 2007 i understand the ruling i guess. just when i watch it, i feel that Portis has the ball, guess i'm wrong though seeing as every thinks it is the right call. oh well, thats fantasy football for ya, just pisses me off sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesMarauders Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 Always remember the stats that you see during the games are unofficial the NFL goes over the games and makes the stats Official on I believe tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Waterboy Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 The ruling makes sense, because I think you have to give it to the QB. But watch the replay, the hand-off is fine, it was Portis' fault. It wasn't like the ball was slipping out of Campbell's hand or it was too high or too low. Portis just botched it, and botched it so badly that he never had possession of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charty Posted September 25, 2007 Share Posted September 25, 2007 (edited) Not all leagues take away points for fumbles lost, and this might be one of the reasons why. A pick is a pick, with a fumble, you only lose points if the opposing team happens to pounce on it. Move on and propose a rule change to eliminate negative points on fumbles. Edited September 25, 2007 by charty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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