millerx Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I always here people saying "never bench your studs", but it drives me crazy thinking I have a bench for a reason but can't use it. Example: I have Marvin Harrison going against Denver D (more specifically Champ Bailey) and the Huddle projections have he only getting 50 yds. (My sig line shows my other options at WR in case you are interested) So do any of you use your gut reactions and bench a "stud", or do you only play the "studs" no matter what? What are your coaching methods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 (edited) Assuming you start 3 WRs, I can't see starting Jackson, Davis or Meachem over him for sure, and while Bowe has strung together a couple of nice games, I just can't see starting the rookie over Harrison. Now, if you had an option that had a really good matchup and more than say 2 weeks of history to show some semblance of consistency I would consider benching a stud. In this particular case, I do not see that. Edited September 28, 2007 by Big Country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddy Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I'm bencihing Larry Johnson this week for Marshawn Lynch. But he hasn't been a stud yet this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 you bench all running backs facing the steelers. its just not possible to run on that defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51Butkus Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Stuck with Frank Gore in Week 3 vs Pitt when I could and should have played M. Barber III against the Bears, leaving his 2 TD's and 100 yds on the bench. Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Cross Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Last week, in one of my teams, I benched Gore for Lamont Jordan ... But in another, I decided to play LJ... and I left Deshaun Foster on my bench ... ... and I lost that game for 6 points... (Typical performance league)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beamer Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 When you have two studs. I have Carson Palmer and Romo. Both have been great this year. I consider Palmer my stud, but I'm playing Romo this week. I also have Steve Jackson, Barber and Jordan. I've played SJax each game and would have done better with the other two each week. It also probably depends on the D. If SJax were playing and going against the Vikes and the other 2 were going against weaker D's, I would bench SJax. But I would never bench Tomlinson if I had him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 "Stud" needs updated definition. Are LT and LJ studs at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 "Stud" needs updated definition. Are LT and LJ studs at the moment? LT most assuredly. LJ, not so much - he slipped a little in most drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdog Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 A stud needs to be a disappointment for at least a month before I'd bench him. And you'd better have someone worth benching him for. I don't see anything on Millerx's bench to sit Marvin for. No way I'd be benching LT or LJ. It'd be a long, long time before I'd consider that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfin2000 Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 "Stud" needs updated definition. Are LT and LJ studs at the moment? Excellent point. Let's substitute "stud" for "player with a hot hand". Would you start Larry Johnson and leave either Lamont Jordan or Adrian Peterson on your bench this week? I know I wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnmakayla Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Excellent point. Let's substitute "stud" for "player with a hot hand". Fark! Now there's another one I have to remember what the heck it stands for! PWAHH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winoman Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Last week on one of my teams I benched Gore (vs Pitt) and started Foster (vs Atlanta) in his place without a second thought. That team (McNabb, Foster, T Henry, K Curtis, V Jackson, R Williams, A Gates, S Gostkowski & Panthers D) went on to score 180 pts (non PPR) - the most I think I've ever scored in 10 years of FF! All with my #1 pick stud RB on the bench! However 3 years ago (I think it was) I had Farve as my QB. He had a terrible 2nd half - 0 TDs a few weeks in a row (even pulled himself out of one game). So 1st round of playoffs I benched him (last minute panic decision right before gametime...needless to say...) - and played K Boller vs Indy!! (what could I have been thinking?) (Boller had had 2 good games in a row & I figured to keep up with Indy he'd have to throw)...well Boller did next to nothing (maybe 1 TD) and Farve had like 4 TDs...I lost the game. I would have won it with Farve and would have won my next 2 rounds vs any opponent and won the superbowl....its the (blown) starting decision I most regret in all my years.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 Studs are not a garuntee for points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cementups Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I've been on the fence all year so far about benhing Peyton Manning and playing Jake Delhomme instead. I should have went with my gut but how do you sit Peyton Manning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winoman Posted September 29, 2007 Share Posted September 29, 2007 I've been on the fence all year so far about benhing Peyton Manning and playing Jake Delhomme instead. I should have went with my gut but how do you sit Peyton Manning You don't regardless. Manning has the potential to put up huge points any week regardless of opponent. I faced the same dilema 2 years ago when Manning got off ot a very slow start. I stuck with him - it did cost me an early game - but no way could I bench him (and ultimatly it payed off as my team did great and I won the superbowl that year - sticking with Manning every week except for his bye) - because more often then not he is going to out perform whoever you would play instead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffplayer302 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I stuck with SJax last week instead of D. Foster, and the difference cost me the game. This week, I'm benching M. Harrison for W. Welker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 You bench a stud when you have a player you believe will score more than your stud ... knowing full well that it is very likely your stud will earn his stud moniker and make you regret benching him. What makes a stud a stud his ability to perform at a consistently high level and when you bench him you are gambling that you will be able to time the spike in performance of one of your non-studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 This is just what I was talking about... M.Harrison 1 rec 8 yds... Bowe 7rec, 150 yds, 1 TD, and still going!!! I knw. it's my own fault!! I'm kicking myself right now!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 This is just what I was talking about... M.Harrison 1 rec 8 yds... Bowe 7rec, 150 yds, 1 TD, and still going!!! I knw. it's my own fault!! I'm kicking myself right now!!!!! There is no possible way outside of Divine guidance, you should have started Bowe over Harrison. Hell, I started Harrison over Branch AND Michael Jenkins. It was the smart play, and sometimes those don't work out. The random factors are what makes this a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 There is no possible way outside of Divine guidance, you should have started Bowe over Harrison. Hell, I started Harrison over Branch AND Michael Jenkins. It was the smart play, and sometimes those don't work out. The random factors are what makes this a game. Thanks cre8tiff. I knew it was the smart play, but my gut WAS telling me to start Bowe. It's hard not to listen to your gut sometimes... Anyway, my opponent has shot his wad and I'm only down by 9 pts. I have R.Moss still going Monday night. I'm guessing in a PPR league I should be able to pull out the win (although I would have already wrapped it up with a Bowe ). Plus, at least I feel more safe now having Bowe to fall back on in case of injury or for use in a quality trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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