theeohiostate Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 taking a beating this week. VaTech falls Kentucky falls Florida losing If South Carolina loses tonight, that may be enough for the BCS to keep a one loss LSU out of the NC game over a 0 Loss BC team OU or LSU has the only shots of overtaking BC, provided OSU and BC remain undefeated..........with these key opponents losing today, OU may have the best shot of passing BC at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 (edited) Florida gets crushed and S.Carolina is well on their way to a beatdown too. LSU may have an easier schedule in the SEC then we thought. They don't have to play Georgia or Tennessee, both of which may be 2 of the top 3 teams in the conference. Edited October 28, 2007 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Oregon probably passes LSU. This win today will be big in the voters eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Arizona State likely passes them as well with a double digit lead on Cal late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Florida gets crushed and S.Carolina is well on their way to a beatdown too.LSU may have an easier schedule in the SEC then we thought. They don't have to play Georgia or Tennessee, both of which may be 2 of the top 3 teams in the conference. First it was Florida, then Auburn now Georgia or Tennessee. Damn TOS make up your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 28, 2007 Author Share Posted October 28, 2007 First it was Florida, then Auburn now Georgia or Tennessee. Damn TOS make up your mind. Florida and Auburn both had the game won. LSU pulled it out of their ass' . LSU doesn't face Georgia or Tennessee this season and it appears they are the both top 3 SEC teams..............that's all. LSU SOS took a major hit this weekend and there is no way for them to jump anyone without them losins. BC doesn't appear to have anyone on their schedule they will lose to. OSU has Michigan left, while Arizona St still has Oregon and USC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Arizona State likely passes them as well with a double digit lead on Cal late. First off Ohio State has yet to even play against a current top ranked BCS team this entire season. Geez... how easily of a schedule is that. Boston College's only quality 14-10 win over Virginia Tech came against a team LSU destoyed 48-7. Geez...what does that tell you. And please Arizona State and Oregon have such an easier road to travel. They played real knockdown drag-outs Washington, Cal-Berkeley, Stanford -- some real juggernauts LSU #3 and moving up! Edited October 29, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 First off Ohio State has yet to even play against a current top ranked BCS team this entire season. Geez... how easily of a schedule is that. Boston College's only quality 14-10 win over Virginia Tech came against a team LSU destoyed 48-7. Geez...what does that tell you. And please Arizona State and Oregon have such an easier road to travel. They played real knockdown drag-outs Washington, Cal-Berkeley, Stanford -- some real juggernauts LSU #3 and moving up! Ohio State doesn't have a loss, nor does Arizona State, nor does Boston College. If they do, they will rightfully move below LSU, as they have the most impressive resume of any of the 1 loss teams. You can say (or in this case whine) about Ohio States schedule all you want to, but all they've done is systematically destroy everyone on it. They can't do anything else other than that, and they do play a tough schedule down the stretch. As for the BC-LSU comparison. It's apples and oranges for a number of reasons, not the least of which happens to be one was played in Baton Rouge, and the other in Blacksburg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 As for the BC-LSU comparison. It's apples and oranges for a number of reasons, not the least of which happens to be one was played in Baton Rouge, and the other in Blacksburg. And in the middle of a monsoon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 The only thing that is the same is that they both beat VT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 LSU took a big blow in the BCS this week, losing alot of ground to BC and OSU , and allowing ASU and Oregon right on their heals, no doubt, the winner or the Oregon vs ASU game next week passes them easily , and I dont see how LSU can regain the 3 spot without losses from the 3 above them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 LSU took a big blow in the BCS this week, losing alot of ground to BC and OSU , and allowing ASU and Oregon right on their heals, no doubt, the winner or the Oregon vs ASU game next week passes them easily , and I dont see how LSU can regain the 3 spot without losses from the 3 above them Still a long ways to go TOS. Assuming all the teams ahead of LSU will win out is assuming an aweful lot this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 Still a long ways to go TOS. Assuming all the teams ahead of LSU will win out is assuming an aweful lot this season. BC doesn't play a top 30 team rest of season, and if Oregon beats ASU, they will coast in with easy non-top 40 opponents. OSU may fall to Wisc or Michigan, but at this point LSU is on the outside unable to catch an Oregon or BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 The top ranked teams are getting beat this year by unranked opponents, further diluting the concept of SOS. What a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myhousekey Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I see LSU got more 1st place votes then BC in the AP poll this week... AP Top 25 1. Ohio State (59) 9-0 1,615 2. Boston College (1) 8-0 1,501 3. LSU (3) 7-1 1,478 4. Oregon 7-1 1,417 5. Oklahoma 7-1 1,365 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) BC doesn't play a top 30 team rest of season, and if Oregon beats ASU, they will coast in with easy non-top 40 opponents. OSU may fall to Wisc or Michigan, but at this point LSU is on the outside unable to catch an Oregon or BC Couple of things to consider. BC does play in a conference that has a championship game, so it is conceivable they could play a top 30 team before the end of the season. Problem I see with BC even if they go undefeated is the fact they lack quality wins especially since their one and only quality win was a narrow one against a team LSU absolutely destoyed by 40+ points. The only way I see an undefeated BC staying ahead of a one loss LSU team is if the ACC can somehow prove their conference is as strong as the SEC by winning three late season games against the SEC teams. Florida St over Floirda, Clemson over S. Carolina and Georgia Tech over Georgia. I'm much more in agreement about a PAC 10 overtaking LSU than BC staying ahead of LSU. If Arizona State finishes their season undefeated I see them playing in the BCS NC instead of LSU. However I'm not so sure about a one loss Oregon team getting the nod over a potential one loss LSU ball club. The reason being is that Oregon will not have any great games to impress the pollsters down the stretch like LSU could have by winning the SEC Conference Championship game. After next weekend's game vs. Arizona State the Ducks finish the season with three fairly easy games Arizona, UCLA and Oregon State. None of those games should garner them any additional votes late in the season. Even Oregon's big win over Michigan might lose some of it's luster should Ohio State beat them as well. Also in favor of a one loss SEC going is the fact that last season a one loss Florida team completely humiliated the undefeated Ohio State Buckeyes in the BCS NC game. If you look back at all the past BCS NC games you'll find the SEC is 3-0 when getting into that game. What really speaks highly of the SEC is that unlike other conferences the SEC produced three different National Champions. Edited October 29, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Let's make one thing clear. I'm a Vols fan and Tenn is not one of the top 3 teams in that conference. Sorry TOS, I know that makes your half-baked claim better but it's just not true. Heck, props to your Bucks. They played a top 30ish team and beat them rather handily. They just might be as good as their record. It's a shame, however, that they're not going to have to face a top 10 caliber team until January so we'll never really know if they deserve to be in the NC game. Of course they'll get a spot if they win out. After all, the Big 10 is allegedly among the stronger conferences. Well, at least they used to be, so running through the sham that it is now somehow matters more than running the table in the WAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 See everyone says, the Big Ten is overrated, yet NO ONE in the media says that, in fact they basically say they suck. So it's hard to call the Big Ten overrated when they are constantly ranked 4th or 5th best among the BCS conferences. And how do we know that Penn State isn't top ten caliber? All they've lost is to Big Ten opponents. THE ONLY team that is in the hunt for the conference title that has been embarassed this year, was Michigan. Everyone else took care of business, as expected (you can argue SOS outside the conference all you want, it means nothing, when you look at recent National Champions played weak OOC schedules, like Florida last year, Miami in 01, LSU in 03). I have a real problem with people pointing to teams over ranked teams, particularly in the first half of the year, when preseason polls are still fresh in voters minds. LSU beat VT. So did BC. What does it mean? I think after watching both of those games, as well as the rest of the Hokies games, that it's hard to say they are a "top ten" worthy team. They were in the Top 10 at the time sure, but why? They were ranked that way in the beginning, got thumped, beat a bunch of nobodies, and wound up back up there again, and got beat again. To be honest I'm having a real tough time trying to figure out who are the top 3 in the SEC. I think I can safely say LSU is the best. Then maybe Auburn. But the rest of the conference have some pretty embrassing losses both within the conference, and outside the conference (bama to a very very average FSU team comes to mind) Miss State has 2 very impressive road victories in the conference, and didn't deserve to share the same field as West Virginia the week before. Tennesse thumped Georgia, Georgia handled Florida, Bama and Florida thumped Tennessee. Tennessee goes out to Cal and beat down pretty handily. Kentucky has been handled 2 weeks in a row, proving they were playing out of there minds vs LSU. Seems to me this conference this conference just seems to have a lot of good teams, but no one is emerging as anything special, other than maybe LSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 (edited) Problem with playing in the SEC much like what we are seeing in the Pac 10 this season is when you have several good teams in your conference it becomes much more difficult to get up for games every single weekend regardless of the competition. SEC could make college football bowl history with 11 bowl teams. Ole Miss is the only SEC team that has no shot at qualifying for a bowl game this season. I told my friends last week that IMO Kentucky should struggle against Miss State only because they were coming off two straight intense weekends of SEC conference football (LSU & Florida). That's why I will be very surprised and impressed if Arizona State finishes the regular season undefeated with their upcoming schedule. Ohio State on the other hand at least up to this point has not had to deal with tough matchups weekly, but should be somewhat tested after winning an emotional game on the road and now must immediately turn around and play against pretty decent teams like Wisconsin, Illinois and Michigan. Edited October 29, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 BC doesn't play a top 30 team rest of season, and if Oregon beats ASU, they will coast in with easy non-top 40 opponents. OSU may fall to Wisc or Michigan, but at this point LSU is on the outside unable to catch an Oregon or BC If Oregan and LSU both win Oregon doesn't pass them Plain and simple. TOS keep trying you may get it right yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 If Oregan and LSU both win Oregon doesn't pass them Plain and simple. TOS keep trying you may get it right yet. How do you figure that one It's pretty obvious looking at the BCS standings, and the points you get for beating another BCS top 5, that Oregon would surpass LSU with a decent margin. Wanna bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 How do you figure that one It's pretty obvious looking at the BCS standings, and the points you get for beating another BCS top 5, that Oregon would surpass LSU with a decent margin. Wanna bet? Are you saying a one loss Oregon team would get the bid to the BCS NC game over a one loss LSU team? TOS, you might want to lay off the buckeyes for a few days. You know they can be poisonous and cause hallucinations, don't you? Just in case you missed it Oregon is playing at home and is expected to win this game by 7 points. That's about the same amount LSU is favored to win on the road vs. Alabama this weekend. So I fail to see how the Ducks knocking off a team they suppose to beat at home is that much better than LSU knocking off a ranked team on the road. Believe me IF the Ducks beat the Sun Devils you'll hear plenty of over rated comments thrown around by the media when talking about Arizona State next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 . Believe me IF the Ducks beat the Sun Devils you'll hear plenty of over rated comments thrown around by the media when talking about Arizona State next week. Oh you mean like the the comments when LS Who lost to Kentucky, and should be about 6th or 7th right now. LS Who is the most over rated team in the top 5. No way would they beat any of those other teams in the top 6 right now. None of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Believe me IF the Ducks beat the Sun Devils you'll hear plenty of over rated comments thrown around by the media when talking about Arizona State next week. Maybe, but it still helps the Ducks more in the computers SOS - if not the poll voters - to beat a top 5 Sun Devils team than the lowly Tide. What's so hard to understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) Maybe, but it still helps the Ducks more in the computers SOS - if not the poll voters - to beat a top 5 Sun Devils team than the lowly Tide. What's so hard to understand? It should help, but not necessarily enough to overtake LSU for the rest of the season provided both teams win out. Quick glance on who the Sun Devils have played so far. Are you impressed enough to think they are that much better than Alabama with that schedule? Granted they did beat Colorado a team the Sooners couldn't handle. But to OK's defense they played that one at home in Tempe. San Jose State (City of Tempe Night) Tempe, Ariz. W, 45-3 09/08/07 vs. Colorado Tempe, Ariz. W, 33-14 09/15/07 vs. San Diego State (Faculty/Staff Appreciation Night) Tempe, Ariz. W, 34-13 09/22/07 vs. Oregon State (Hall of Fame Game) Tempe, Ariz. W, 44-32 09/29/07 at Stanford Palo Alto, Calif. W, 41-3 10/06/07 at Washington State Pullman, Wash. W, 23-20 10/13/07 vs. Washington (Family Weekend/Champions Weekend) Tempe, Ariz. W, 44-20 10/27/07 vs. Cal (Homecoming) Tempe, Ariz. W, 31-20 Edited October 30, 2007 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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