msaint Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Bomb to Jones over Champ. Bomb to Jennings over Bly. Well done, fellas, well done. Seemed like Bailey also let a couple possible (albeit tough diving catches) INTs bounce his his hands. Is he still injured and playting hurt? Bly, however, has no excuse -- he was just owned by Jennings, who got great leverage/positioning and boxed Bly out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 In today's offensive-friendly NFL, there is no such thing as a "shutdown" corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 In today's offensive-friendly NFL, there is no such thing as a "shutdown" corner. wurd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Great post. The definition of a "shut-down" corner should be one who never gets beat for a TD for his entire playing career. That said, I found it hilarious that Dre Bly was running his mouth in the D introductions at the beginning of the game & then he gives up the game winner. Priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyrott Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) It doesn't help the corners when you give a 3 time MVP QB like Favre ALL DAY to throw the ball. Where was the Bronco's pass rush? Fixed. Edited October 30, 2007 by Rileyrott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Where was the Bronco's pass rush? Seems like I've been asking that very question for almost a decade now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Seems like I've been asking that very question for almost a decade now. Well, at least we know it wasn't in Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Well, at least we know it wasn't in Cleveland. It never fails to amaze me that Shanahan has no understanding of the value of a strong D line (or special teams) and apparently no one is willing to hold him accountable for that. I've seen teams' pass Ds be very good with a strong D line and only mediocre DBs, because the strong pass rush mitigates the amount of time the DBs are exposed. A side benefit of this philosphy is that it also puts tremendous pressure on run blocking since quicker & stronger D linemen tend to be capable of reacting to running plays with greater expediancy. On the other hand, even the best DBs in the league can't cover for repeated extended periods, especially given the passing rules now in effect to enhance scoring in the NFL. And if the guys in the secondary are your best tacklers, that means that players are getting to at least the second level before they are being tackled. It's really not that difficult of a concept to comprehend. To most except Shanahan apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Bly is a gambler who likes to go for the pick. I don't think that anyone in Detroit considered him a "shutdown" corner. Denver fans should expect to see a WR blow by him every couple games. You could cue the Benny Hill music as you watch Bly try to chase him down from behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I thought that overall, the corner play was stellar. I mean take away just two passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns and they were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 You could cue the Benny Hill music as you watch Bly try to chase him down from behind. I mean take away just two passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns and they were great. Classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderSteve Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I thought that overall, the corner play was stellar. I mean take away just two passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns and they were great. Add the two passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns and they were horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Add the two passes for 160 yards and two touchdowns and they were horrible Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp3ctr3 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 It doesn't help the corners when you give a 3 time Pro Bowl QB like Favre ALL DAY to throw the ball. Where was the Bronco's pass rush? Favre is an 8 time Pro Bowl QB, you probably meant MVP though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Nah there are no more shutdown corners thanks to the rule enforcement after Colts/NE. The NFL doesn't want some pansy WRs getting injured and higher scores means more tickets being bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 It doesn't help the corners when you give a 3 time Pro Bowl QB like Favre ALL DAY to throw the ball. Where was the Bronco's pass rush? +1 You could have Deion in his prime out there and he's still going to give it up if the QB has all day to throw back there. Teams might just be better off cap-wise having good-but-not-great CBs that don't cost an arm and a leg (like, say, a Nick Harper or a Marcus Trufant), and spending more heavily on pass-rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted October 30, 2007 Author Share Posted October 30, 2007 and while we're on the broncs here, what was with their o-lineman slapping the ball out of cutler's hand on that one goal line series? did he slip and try to re-gain his balance, 'cause it looked like he purposely knocked the ball out of cutler's hand.....WHEN CUTLER WAS LIKELY ABOUT TO HAND IT OFF TO SELVIN!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyrott Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Favre is an 8 time Pro Bowl QB, you probably meant MVP though. Fixed. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 It never fails to amaze me that Shanahan has no understanding of the value of a strong D line (or special teams) and apparently no one is willing to hold him accountable for that. I've seen teams' pass Ds be very good with a strong D line and only mediocre DBs, because the strong pass rush mitigates the amount of time the DBs are exposed. A side benefit of this philosphy is that it also puts tremendous pressure on run blocking since quicker & stronger D linemen tend to be capable of reacting to running plays with greater expediancy. On the other hand, even the best DBs in the league can't cover for repeated extended periods, especially given the passing rules now in effect to enhance scoring in the NFL. And if the guys in the secondary are your best tacklers, that means that players are getting to at least the second level before they are being tackled. It's really not that difficult of a concept to comprehend. To most except Shanahan apparently. +1 The Orange Crush has been reduced to a Fanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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