Genetic Jackhammer Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I am a co-commish in a local league and have come across a situation that has never presented itself to us before and was just wondering if any other Commish's have encountered this same problem. Team A proposed a deal of Lendale White and Vernon Davis to Team B for Reggie Wayne and Jamarcus Russell ( we have a rookie keeper rule in effect) Team B accepted the deal thru MFL, but immediately after he had regrets and emailed myself not wanting the deal to go thru. My question is does the trade go thru or does Team B have the right to cancel or revoke the trade before it is processed? Thanking you in advance for your help with this matter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Unless Team A is willing to be gracious and let him "off the hook" the deal stands. And if he accepted the deal how it is not "processed" yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genetic Jackhammer Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 All accepted trades get sent to the commish for approval. When I logged into my email account I saw the email saying a trade is waiting for my approval, but then noticed the email from Team B saying he now didn't want to make the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMF Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Same thing actually happened to me in my league this year. I had to say sorry there was no reason cancel it you have to get the other guy to agree. Lucky for him the other guy is a good guy and said it was okay if it was cancelled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Unless Team A is willing to be gracious and let him "off the hook" the deal stands... I agree with this to a point. I would contact team A without letting team B know. If he says cool, then you let him know the other Commish was the one that allowed it to be pulled back. If he says "no", then you as the Commish has to eat the sh!t sammich and say it was your decision. Buyers remourse IS NOT a reason to try to back out of a trade after you have pulled the trigger! Now making a mistake is another thing. The way we get passed the, "I made a mistake and cliked the wrong button" thingy is to require that all parties to a trade include a comment as to their acceptance or declination of a trade in the comment section. The actual word of someone at the time of transaction carries much more weight than the paniced phone call or eMail after the fact. Your first problem is Commish approval of trades! STAY OUT OF OWNERS BUSINESS! The only time you should get involved is retroactively and then ONLY if you can prove that there was cheating involved. If you allow trades to go through automatically, then you cut out a lot of these problems for you AND the league! Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Are you playing for fun or is this a cut throat league? If the league is for fun, among friends, deny the trade and let team A know why. The key item here is "immediate". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 No going back. You should be sure before you make the committment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Gotta agree with what was said above. 1) There is no buyers remorse. He pushed the button, he made the trade. 2) Stop approving trades. It's none of your damn business what people are doing unless it involves collusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 as soon as he accepted, its a done deal. what if the next time, a player involved in the trade gets hurt or arrested after the trade being accepted. it presents a very slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txpkrbkr Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I had that happen to me this year. I accepted a trade and 2 hours before it was to go into effect, the Commissioner cancelled it without notifying me. The other guy got cold feet, thought he was giving up too much (after he proposed it to me in the first place), went crying to the Commish & got him to cancel it without consulting me. I WAS NOT HAPPY. Truth is, I would have let the guy off the hook had I been consulted. Now our Commish made it a written rule that either party to an accepted trade has 48 hours to back out & Commish will gladly cancel the trade. Don't be a dummy - don't set the same precedent. If the other guy agrees, cancel it & move on. Otherwise, too bad so sad. Nobody in our league will communicate or execute trades with each other now, and 4 of us are leaving our 5-yr-old league after this season. All because of this doofus Commish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyOne Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Gotta agree with what was said above. 1) There is no buyers remorse. He pushed the button, he made the trade. 2) Stop approving trades. It's none of your damn business what people are doing unless it involves collusion. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I had that happen to me this year. I accepted a trade and 2 hours before it was to go into effect, the Commissioner cancelled it without notifying me. The other guy got cold feet, thought he was giving up too much (after he proposed it to me in the first place), went crying to the Commish & got him to cancel it without consulting me. I WAS NOT HAPPY. Truth is, I would have let the guy off the hook had I been consulted. Now our Commish made it a written rule that either party to an accepted trade has 48 hours to back out & Commish will gladly cancel the trade. Don't be a dummy - don't set the same precedent. If the other guy agrees, cancel it & move on. Otherwise, too bad so sad. Nobody in our league will communicate or execute trades with each other now, and 4 of us are leaving our 5-yr-old league after this season. All because of this doofus Commish. 48 hours is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I agree with this to a point. I would contact team A without letting team B know. If he says cool, then you let him know the other Commish was the one that allowed it to be pulled back. If he says "no", then you as the Commish has to eat the sh!t sammich and say it was your decision. Buyers remourse IS NOT a reason to try to back out of a trade after you have pulled the trigger! Now making a mistake is another thing. The way we get passed the, "I made a mistake and cliked the wrong button" thingy is to require that all parties to a trade include a comment as to their acceptance or declination of a trade in the comment section. The actual word of someone at the time of transaction carries much more weight than the paniced phone call or eMail after the fact. Your first problem is Commish approval of trades! STAY OUT OF OWNERS BUSINESS! The only time you should get involved is retroactively and then ONLY if you can prove that there was cheating involved. If you allow trades to go through automatically, then you cut out a lot of these problems for you AND the league! Agree on all counts and good idea about the having to add a comment thing. And timing is important. If he comes back right away and goes "oops" that's one thing - not the next friggin day (etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberfootball Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I'm the commissioner in my work league. I had a similar issue last week. Team A agreed to trade Elii Manning and DeShawn Wynn to Team B for Philip Rivers and Edgerrin James. In my league we have a 48 hour league review / vote. The deal was agreed upon at lunch and accepted and had 3 votes for by the time I had gotten back from lunch. So I have an email saying there is a pending trade so I look at it and thought it was fine. Team A comes to me with cold feet. I asked him if he had voted for the trade to go through and he said yes. So he accepted the trade and then voted for it and then wants out. I told him I would not revoke the trade because he had cold feet unless Team B agreed. He talked to a few other owners asking if it was a fair trade and they said yes. He never asked Team B to revoke the trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 I'm the commissioner in my work league. I had a similar issue last week. Team A agreed to trade Elii Manning and DeShawn Wynn to Team B for Philip Rivers and Edgerrin James. In my league we have a 48 hour league review / vote. The deal was agreed upon at lunch and accepted and had 3 votes for by the time I had gotten back from lunch. So I have an email saying there is a pending trade so I look at it and thought it was fine. Team A comes to me with cold feet. I asked him if he had voted for the trade to go through and he said yes. So he accepted the trade and then voted for it and then wants out. I told him I would not revoke the trade because he had cold feet unless Team B agreed. He talked to a few other owners asking if it was a fair trade and they said yes. He never asked Team B to revoke the trade. 48 hour windows and owner approvals are bogus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShiznit Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 48 hour windows and owner approvals are bogus. Regardless, the commish gave the guy the right advice...go to the other party and ask for an out...he did not and noone else thought it was a bad trade. Sounds like he was stuck because he was too girly to man up. I live by the rule....once you hit the send button there is no going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbie Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Basic contract law, sort of. Team A made an offer, Team B accepted...done deal. Now, the only way that Team B can get off the hook is if the other party to the "contract", team A, lets him. Yup, this is between the two owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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