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Fowler and Herbstreit's Top 5


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Both Fowler and Herbie have the same top 5 - I don't have a problem with any of em. OSU is not the #1 team in the nation, hoping they get exposed by Michigan.........

 

 

OSU

LSU

OREGON

OKLAHOMA

ASU

 

BC

 

I think BC is a fraud- and they lose at some point.

 

I think Oregon gets by ASU this weekend as well.

 

I think Oregon, LSU, OKL will all be equally deserving at the end of the year, and if OU runs the table, can't keep them out and college football fans will be effed once again

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Both Fowler and Herbie have the same top 5 - I don't have a problem with any of em. OSU is not the #1 team in the nation, hoping they get exposed by Michigan.........

OSU

LSU

OREGON

OKLAHOMA

ASU

 

BC

 

I think BC is a fraud- and they lose at some point.

 

I think Oregon gets by ASU this weekend as well.

 

I think Oregon, LSU, OKL will all be equally deserving at the end of the year, and if OU runs the table, can't keep them out and college football fans will be effed once again

 

So you do have a problem with it, with OSU being #1 in both of their top 5?

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So you do have a problem with it, with OSU being #1 in both of their top 5?

 

 

under the BCS system - can't help that the Big 10 stinks, and they had a soft NC sched- under the system they deserve #1.

 

If OSU is in the Pac 10 or SEC, they have 2 losses hung on em. period.

 

BC is .500 if they played an SEC or Pac 10 sched.

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The top 5 is stupid just as any other poll in college football. It is pointless drivel. This is nothing more than the NFL power poll. Has the same value with the exception that college football bases everything on them. Thanks media for making college football a joke. Who is to say who is better? It's like watching 5 different races held in 5 different states and determining who wins without lining them up in a playoff. One good thing will be the matchup in Oregon this weekend. ASU still doesn't have that many believers, and I cant find fault with that. I do know that they are THE most physical team I have watched this year. Cal could barely walk off the field last week. That being said, ASU can't afford to get down in the first quarter like they have all season. They were down 14 to Colorado before destroying them. But according to Herby, OU is better and they lost to Colorado.

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The top 5 is stupid just as any other poll in college football. It is pointless drivel. This is nothing more than the NFL power pole. Has the same value with the exception that college football bases everything on them. Thanks media for making college football a joke. Who is to say who is better? It's like watching 5 different races held in 5 different states and determining who wins without lining them up in a playoff. One good thing will be the matchup in Oregon this weekend. ASU still doesn't have that many believers, and I can find fault with that. I do know that they are THE most physical team I have watched this year. Cal could barely walk off the field last week. That being said, ASU can't afford to get down in the first quarter like they have all season. They were down 14 to Colorado before destroying them. But according to Herby, OU is better and they lost to Colorado.

 

who knows who beats who on a given day- all you can do is watch the games, and make a judgement, unfortunately.

 

whatever- this one team comparison is beyond ridiculous. Saying ASU is better than OU bc they beat Colorado who beat OU is flawed logic.

 

ASU is a nice squad, but they are a decided underdog against OU.

 

Herby and others go by the entire year- not one game.

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under the BCS system - can't help that the Big 10 stinks, and they had a soft NC sched- under the system they deserve #1.

 

If OSU is in the Pac 10 or SEC, they have 2 losses hung on em. period.

 

BC is .500 if they played an SEC or Pac 10 sched.

 

 

Sorry, but it is quotes like your BC and OSU one is just your opinion. You may be correct. I am a PAC 10 homer as well, but this board if full of these kinds of quotes. Unfortunately, college football is the biggest con in sports and it forces us to make statements such as these. BC could go undefeated in the PAC10 for all I know. Would App. State finish 2nd in the Big 10?

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who knows who beats who on a given day- all you can do is watch the games, and make a judgement, unfortunately.

 

whatever- this one team comparison is beyond ridiculous. Saying ASU is better than OU bc they beat Colorado who beat OU is flawed logic.

 

ASU is a nice squad, but they are a decided underdog against OU.

 

Herby and others go by the entire year- not one game.

 

I never said ASU was better than OU. I'd like to hear your logic regarding OU being such a decided favorite on a neutral site. I don't see any overwhelming advantage personally. I certainly give a decided advantage to Erickson over Stoops. Personnel wise I see 2 very physical teams with good and some great players. Sure would like to see it on the field.

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Part of the challenge with ranking the top 5 teams is that they play different SOS. What I like best about the PAC 10 is that sooner or later each of the teams must face one another. Granted there are home field advantages, but at least they can prove something on the field. IMO what hurt CAL or better yet what helped ASU is that the Sun Devils had not been asked to get up much for any game this season unlike the Bears. It will be interesting to see how the Sun Devils handle the next few big game weekends.

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Both Fowler and Herbie have the same top 5 - I don't have a problem with any of em. OSU is not the #1 team in the nation, hoping they get exposed by Michigan.........

OSU

LSU

OREGON

OKLAHOMA

ASU

 

BC

 

I think BC is a fraud- and they lose at some point.

 

I think Oregon gets by ASU this weekend as well.

 

I think Oregon, LSU, OKL will all be equally deserving at the end of the year, and if OU runs the table, can't keep them out and college football fans will be effed once again

 

What the hell are you even talking about here. First you make a post header titled "On the Mark" , then you contradict their first pick.

 

Either you agree or disagree..................why even make this post :D

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What the hell are you even talking about here. First you make a post header titled "On the Mark" , then you contradict their first pick.

 

Either you agree or disagree..................why even make this post :D

 

 

OSU is not the best team in college football IMO- but under the current system, I guess I can't argue with them being #1 at this point. I hope this shakes out bc once again, OSU will play a weak NC sched and beat up on a very down Big 10. Haven't we seen this before?

 

Clear enough?

 

I watch ALOT of football- and I think there are quite a few teams better than OSU, and IMO they have a couple L's in the Pac 10 or SEC.

 

after further review, ASU clearly has a better resume than OSU to this point- and is more deserving of the #1, actually

 

 

What a freaking mess this is gonna be

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opinon or fact?

You have no basis for this to be fact and your opinon is about as well recieved around here as your lineups in hoops :D

 

 

yer a moron, and yer blind homerism is beyond a joke.

 

At least Brian comes in here with some knowledge and common sense regarding college football and the Big 10.

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yer a moron, and yer blind homerism is beyond a joke.

 

At least Brian comes in here with some knowledge and common sense regarding college football and the Big 10.

 

I'm just slightly confused by your comments. First its on the mark, then its not. Then under the system they should be #1, then they shouldnt. Then you blast a guy for questioning it. Every post you make is anti Big 10, or OSU with no basis than your opinion. But then you blast a guy for being a homer.

 

Sorry, but it is quotes like your BC and OSU one is just your opinion. You may be correct. I am a PAC 10 homer as well, but this board if full of these kinds of quotes. Unfortunately, college football is the biggest con in sports and it forces us to make statements such as these. BC could go undefeated in the PAC10 for all I know. Would App. State finish 2nd in the Big 10?

 

This may be one of the smartest things said on this board. Too bad common sense has not place here.

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I'm just slightly confused by your comments. First its on the mark, then its not. Then under the system they should be #1, then they shouldnt. Then you blast a guy for questioning it. Every post you make is anti Big 10, or OSU with no basis than your opinion. But then you blast a guy for being a homer.

This may be one of the smartest things said on this board. Too bad common sense has not place here.

 

 

under the current system- I can live with OSU being #1 for now, if I wasn't clear I apologize. The ASU thang I just threw in as a an afterthought- bc they have a better resume than OSU thus far.

 

Aren't opinions all we have at this point? I would rather come with an opinion on something instead off, "gee whiz, BC could go undefeated in the Pac 10 for all we know" uh, no they wouldn't, and I can say that with confidence.

 

Mike comes with nothing to back his OSU squad- he just pops off with no basis to his argument. I am not anti-Big 10, I just call it like I see it- and there are many in agreement. OSU proved last year that the rigorous Big 10 slate is not really preparation for a big time game. The league is down, period. As a Pac 10 guy, I have always liked and respected the Big 10.

 

We shall see how it plays out,

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under the current system- I can live with OSU being #1 for now, if I wasn't clear I apologize. The ASU thang I just threw in as a an afterthought- bc they have a better resume than OSU thus far.

 

Aren't opinions all we have at this point? I would rather come with an opinion on something instead off, "gee whiz, BC could go undefeated in the Pac 10 for all we know" uh, no they wouldn't, and I can say that with confidence.

 

Mike comes with nothing to back his OSU squad- he just pops off with no basis to his argument. I am not anti-Big 10, I just call it like I see it- and there are many in agreement. OSU proved last year that the rigorous Big 10 slate is not really preparation for a big time game. The league is down, period. As a Pac 10 guy, I have always liked and respected the Big 10.

 

We shall see how it plays out,

 

Yes, of course opinions are we have at this point. But you wont let anyone else express theirs unless they agree with yours. Of course, that is par for the course on this board, and it is what makes this board so frustrating and entertaining. Also, before the bowls last year everyone pretty much agreed the Big 10 was stacked on top. Then the bowls played out. That was last year. They very well may play out the same this year. The Big 10 could run the bowl table this year as well, who knows?

 

My personal opinion is flawed becasue I am an OSU homer. The only thing I know at this point is OSU has not dropped any games they should have won. Unlike many other teams that are complaning that OSU is overrated. I also realize they have not played any NC games of merit. Tressel's flaw is he is an OHIO guy, he likes to keep the money in state. So he has to rely on the one game outside of the state they schedule. I guess 6 years ago when the put Washington on the schedule they should have sheduled Kentucky or Stanford. Who knew?

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OSU proved last year that the rigorous Big 10 slate is not really preparation for a big time game.

 

We shall see how it plays out,

 

 

How did OSU's loss prove this, please explain?

 

I think the loss shows more of a record settings layoff then anything, nothing more. You want to read into something not there.

 

No one believes OU was that horrible a team when USC handed it to them, no more than anyone believes Florida was that much superior to the Bucks’ . Momentun, Ginn getting injured, Troy Smith Heisman and an 8 or 9 week layoff had more to do with the outcome of that game then the talent differnece between the 2 schools. To view it otherwise is your attempt to hate on the Big 10.

 

It's like you are actually that naive enough to feel the Bucks don't get the same kind of talent that SEC or Pac 10 schools do. The Bucks recruit top 10 classes year in and year out, just like those schools boast.

 

You’re a hater and your opinions about the Big 10 show your ignorance.

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I got no complaint with people thinking OSU is not deserving and I actually prefer it.

 

OSU controls it's own destiny and you can ask for no more than that. I know Tress is using it to keep his team focused and my guess is that due to what the country thinks of OSU the players have to be jacked up every game.

 

I'm from Columbus and the players feel disrespected and many quotes about staying hungry and that it's even possible that they became a little content last season. I don't see any let down in OSU off the field or on it due to the Florida game.

 

The only way OSU gets any credit this season is by doing what no one else seems to be able to do this year and that's just win and keep our mouths shut. I love how our kids are handling everything and hope they beat Wisconsin. OSU can not beat the whole SEC and PAC 10 in one weekend, but OSU controls it's own destiny win or lose...That's just how I like it.

 

I have OSU, Oregon, LSU, OU and BC/ASU as my top 5. ASU with Carpentar's injury is going to be a problem other wise I would have them 4.

 

Oregon is the scariest team in my eyes as a Bucks fan.

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How did OSU's loss prove this, please explain?

 

I think the loss shows more of a record settings layoff then anything, nothing more. You want to read into something not there.

 

No one believes OU was that horrible a team when USC handed it to them, no more than anyone believes Florida was that much superior to the Bucks’ . Momentun, Ginn getting injured, Troy Smith Heisman and an 8 or 9 week layoff had more to do with the outcome of that game then the talent differnece between the 2 schools. To view it otherwise is your attempt to hate on the Big 10.

 

It's like you are actually that naive enough to feel the Bucks don't get the same kind of talent that SEC or Pac 10 schools do. The Bucks recruit top 10 classes year in and year out, just like those schools boast.

 

You’re a hater and your opinions about the Big 10 show your ignorance.

 

not really sure which OSU/Florida game you watched........the one I watched had nothing to do with a long layoff.

 

It had much more to do with the GIGANTIC SPEED EDGE Florida had all over the field. Excuses excuses - they got dominated by a much faster, more athletic team.

 

Pure and simple- Big 10 speed is a notch below the Pac 10 and SEC.

 

I am not doubting OSU pulls in top 10 recruiting classes. But let's get real here for a second- just comparing the undefeated's - OSU/KU/ASU/BC - based off pure numbers OSU comes in 4th. KU, BC, ASU all have more quality wins than yer Buckeyes

 

The more I look at it- OSU is number one based off pure bias plain and simple. The USC of the midwest-

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It's hard to say that a record lay off had NOTHING to do with the outcome. I do think EVERYONE overrated Ohio State and underrated Florida, which is why everyone other than Gator fans were shocked by the outcome. Beyond that though, Florida matched up extremely well. Plain and simple. And truth be known, Ohio State probably wasn't expecting that type of speed. Combine that with Ohio State playing easily the worst game of the 2006 season, and you got a blow out. Either way you want to look at it or make yourself feel better about it... 2006 has NOTHING to do with 2007. NADA! And as of 11-3-07, no conference has proven superiority over any other conference. Until those inter-conference games happen in the bowls, how can we really say the Big Ten sucks. You can argue SOS in NC all you want, but their are many past national champions that played garbage NC schedules, which Ohio State did (on paper anyway). And it's pretty funny to me that the Pac 10's BEST NC victory this year, was against a Big Ten team. Kind of ironic that you have to hang your hat on that game just to prove some point. You didn't do anything but beat one of those overrated Big Ten teams.

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OU fans are still upset about that gift wrapped win given to Colorado by my Sooners. Up 24-17 going into the 4th quarter, then turning the ball over twice, once inside their 15 yard line, giving the Bufs a chance to remain in the game bit us in the ass, and will likely cost us a Championship appearance.

 

I want a playoff. I dont think Auburn shouldnt have got a chance to play for a NC a few yrs back. Certainly this yr, if OSU and ASU lose, its going to be anarchy. And quite frankly I think the early polls place such an advantage in the mid season to end of season polls. There are several SEC teams who dont deserve to be ranked. Va Tech has yet to beat anyone, losing 2 games, but for some reason they are still top 10ish. And quite frankly I think Oregon is the best team right now, and they may not get to the NC game either. LSU isnt very good, but their preseason start with 1 loss, puts them ahead of more deserving 1 loss teams. I hope someone somewhere finally gets Va Tech, LSU and BC are all over rated.

 

All this being said, if every team wins out, besides ASU, the NC game should be OSU and Oregon. LSU and BC can play in the over rated bowl.

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Well Oregon and ASU essentially take care of themselves. I like both teams as I've made it a point now to watch more pac 10 football this year. The problem is, as I've said, I think LSU is the best team I've seen, I'm not convinced they are so clearcut the best, and that's the problem. Not one team has established itself. That's why I say, the ultimate winner, will be one of the weaker national champions we've seen.

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