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I was driving to the Coyotes game with my brother-in-law the other night and we started talking college football. Usually we agree on many things in life, but I was taken by surprise by his opinion of the state of college football. I was talking about a playoff and how college football needed to scrap the BCS and design a new...blah...blah..blah...before he interrupted me and said, " What the hell was wrong with tradition?" The Rose Bowl, The Sugar Bowl, The Orange Bowl, The Cotton Bowl. Where did the excitement go with the bowl games? I have to agree with him.

 

Out with tradition, hello computerized dating. :D The BCS is nothing more than eHarmony.com. So, we destroyed tradition in order to have a mythical NC? It is an extremely flawed system that has trumped conference championships, rivalries and certainly a traditional match up pitting 2 conferences in a bowl game for all the bragging rights. It is a ship gone so far off course, that it may never return...

 

The point is that you can't have it both ways. The traditionalists are unhappy that the Big 10 #1 and the Pac 10 #1 won't be playing in the Rose Bowl. The NCists will be clammoring that their team did not get in and it was unfair. There is no middle ground. The winner is nobody. Congratulations college football and media for destroying the best sport in the world. I remember the first time I wished that 2 winners form bowl games could play against each other. It was the co NC's Washington Huskies and Miami Hurricanes back in the 90's. Wow, what a match up that would have been. But, if the BCS was in place, would their profiles on eHarmony.com be right enough to play a game? Hard to say. They seemed perfect together.

 

 

Look at what it has done to the fan. It has made me cynical as hell and pretty much insane. Rocker is insane and everyone on the board knows it but him. I am betting he writes love letters to Les Miles every week. Insane Stalker. TOS is an SEC fan that loves a big 10 team. Only an insane person would do that. Wildcat roots for AZ, so we know he could care less for bowl games and just as soon wait until basketball season to arrive in Tucson. Sarge is the Bruce Banner of the board. Just the mere mention of OU in a dim light he turns into the incredible hulk and wants to smash everyone. Obviously insane. Lil10 is completely void of any logic and hates the PAC 10 only because his mom won't let him stay up late enough to catch a game. The Poffessor loves the Huskies but clearly shows his love for the Ducks. Clearly insane. Brian, probably 2nd to Rocker for the most time spent on this board, defiantly defends the Big 10 and is certainly involved with every BCS post. Brian is going insane. Sad to see. John Galt dissappeared the moment that USC lost. See what one loss does? John Galt has left the building. Coffeeman wasn't prepared for a USC loss, like many unfortunate USC fans. Now he spends his days building that rocket ship in his back yard in case those talking squirells come back. There are more, but I am out of time. I have to go water my tv set and rub feces on my neighbor's door.

 

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I agree with your brother-in-law . The BCS seemed like a great idea on its inception, but hasn't lived up to the hype. I'd just as soon be in the Rose Bowl against a USC, UCLA or Oregon team , then playing for a title that seems mythical each season. At least the old system didn't give anyone the "expectations" of grandure.

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Bushey says: 'Coffeeman wasn't prepared for a USC loss, like many unfortunate USC fans. Now he spends his days building that rocket ship in his back yard in case those talking squirells come back.'

 

AHAHAHA! Nice post. But I'm not smart enuf to build a rocket, so I'll just talk the squirrels into letting me take theirs. Its big enuf for me too, believe it or not....

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I can tell you as a traditionalist (for the most part) that I do miss having that guaranteed Big Ten-Pac 10 Rose Bowl game. To me it was the ultimate match up. Midwesterners go out to La La land to play the best of the west. I do want some sort of playoff to decide the national championship, but if you can't decide it on the field, if you can't come to the agreement to do that then why, like you say, piss off everyone with the BCS?

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Bushey do me a favor and re-read your post. No offense, but don't you sound like an old fart?

 

Yeah the good old days and the glorious Rose Bowl. With all due respect, the old tradional bowl games were great in their day, but give me a playoff thaat starts a new tradition that can decide which team is truly the number one college football team.

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Bushey do me a favor and re-read your post. No offense, but don't you sound like an old fart?

 

Yeah the good old days and the glorious Rose Bowl. With all due respect, the old tradional bowl games were great in their day, but give me a playoff thaat starts a new tradition that can decide which team is truly the number one college football team.

 

 

I think you need to re-read his post. That's the point he's making. The current system doesn't give you a clear NC, so why is it better to have even more controversy then ever? The old system was fine and for the NCAA to adopt this mythical champion system is a crock.

 

Now if your saying a playoff vs the old bowl system, then clearly everyone is on board with that. But it sounds like your saying you like the current system over the previous, which is , imo, absurd.

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Bushey do me a favor and re-read your post. No offense, but don't you sound like an old fart?

 

Yeah the good old days and the glorious Rose Bowl. With all due respect, the old tradional bowl games were great in their day, but give me a playoff thaat starts a new tradition that can decide which team is truly the number one college football team.

 

Well, I may be an old fart mentally with certain things. All I am saying is go back to the way it was unless you can come up with a playoff system that involves an acceptable amount of teams. Doesn't div II have a playoff system? I mean, don't you want a true #1? Full playoff commitment or give me back my bowl games.

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I dont know, I have to ask how old you are. Not because you sound like and old fart, but to see how well you remember life before the BCS. People have beeh bitching about teams being overrated, our conference is better than yours, our team is better than yours, we deserverd the #1 ranking, yadda yadda yadda, for years. I think the main difference between then and now is the world is smaller. The internet and cable tv have made it easier to see more games and bitch to more people. When I was growing up I didnt know too many people form California, Florida, ect. But I knew some kids that were Michigan fans, Iowa fans, and Penn State fans. I admit that was fun. But so was being a kid. I think the BCS gets a bad rap. I am not sure if a playoff system is the answer. We sure would loose some of the urgency of the regular season games. Maybe its an and 1 game. Maybe it isnt. I'm not smart enough to figure it out. All I know is I love college football over all other sports. So, there must be something right about it.

 

Go Bucks!

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I dont know, I have to ask how old you are. Not because you sound like and old fart, but to see how well you remember life before the BCS. People have beeh bitching about teams being overrated, our conference is better than yours, our team is better than yours, we deserverd the #1 ranking, yadda yadda yadda, for years. I think the main difference between then and now is the world is smaller. The internet and cable tv have made it easier to see more games and bitch to more people. When I was growing up I didnt know too many people form California, Florida, ect. But I knew some kids that were Michigan fans, Iowa fans, and Penn State fans. I admit that was fun. But so was being a kid. I think the BCS gets a bad rap. I am not sure if a playoff system is the answer. We sure would loose some of the urgency of the regular season games. Maybe its an and 1 game. Maybe it isnt. I'm not smart enough to figure it out. All I know is I love college football over all other sports. So, there must be something right about it.

 

Go Bucks!

 

You bring up an excellent point regarding the information age now vs then. The president can't fart without CNN reporting on it at the scene LIVE with Peter Dip$hit. The BCS gets a bad rap because it is flawed. Teams get left out and that is not fair. Where is the upset? By having polls and a computer decide who gets in, then we may never get a chance to see a true underdog have a chance to knock off a powerhouse like OSU or LSU. I think computers decide too damn much as it is.

 

The bitching back and forth about conferences will always be there no matter who wins. We are all fans of a team, conference, region and even OU (where they don't have tv or internet...Haha). Oh wait I live in AZ where we still have covered wagons.

 

I don't claim to be smart, but I know that a playoff system can be designed, but it will turn college football upsidedown and shake the hell out of it until some of the GREED falls out to get it done. Can you imagine the BUZZ on this board and everywhere else if we had brackets to predict?

 

I will happily go back to watching the Grandaddy of them all or the Orange and Sugar bowls until the rich people figure out how to satisfy their fans.

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We sure would loose some of the urgency of the regular season games.

I dunno, make it a 16-team playoff seeded, first round the top 8 seeds get home games.

 

I think that would make the regular season stay pretty damn urgent - if you're going down the stretch ranked 7 or 8 there will DAMN well be some urgency to keep that home game. Even higher ranked teams who would be "guaranteed" a spot win or lose (let's say that in the final weeks this year OSU is #1 but loses a hard-fought game to UM in their last week - they would NOT drop out of the top 16) would need to stay focused to avoid slipping and potentially losing a home game. Or facing a higher-seed.

 

Hypothetical - this week West Va is ranked #7 in the BCS. Assuming all things remain the same (for simplicity's sake) except what West Va does against Louisville next week - they win and stay at #7 and get UGA at home. They lose, they drop a good 4-5 spots and go on the road against someone like Oregon or Oklahoma.

 

I'd say that would create a bit of urgency. Plus the fact that a loss wouldn't deep-six a season might create a bit more balls among coaches/ADs when scheduling, especially if there was a strong OOC SOS component. I'd also say that NO BCS poll or computer ranking can be held for the first 4 weeks or so. Do preseason, and then start from scratch in week 4, based on team's performances so far in the season.

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I dunno, make it a 16-team playoff seeded, first round the top 8 seeds get home games.

 

I think that would make the regular season stay pretty damn urgent - if you're going down the stretch ranked 7 or 8 there will DAMN well be some urgency to keep that home game. Even higher ranked teams who would be "guaranteed" a spot win or lose (let's say that in the final weeks this year OSU is #1 but loses a hard-fought game to UM in their last week - they would NOT drop out of the top 16) would need to stay focused to avoid slipping and potentially losing a home game. Or facing a higher-seed.

 

Hypothetical - this week West Va is ranked #7 in the BCS. Assuming all things remain the same (for simplicity's sake) except what West Va does against Louisville next week - they win and stay at #7 and get UGA at home. They lose, they drop a good 4-5 spots and go on the road against someone like Oregon or Oklahoma.

 

I'd say that would create a bit of urgency. Plus the fact that a loss wouldn't deep-six a season might create a bit more balls among coaches/ADs when scheduling, especially if there was a strong OOC SOS component. I'd also say that NO BCS poll or computer ranking can be held for the first 4 weeks or so. Do preseason, and then start from scratch in week 4, based on team's performances so far in the season.

 

:D

 

I am not smart enough to say what he said. If only their were smart Bushey's out there...

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My father Is Bob. He still doesn't get the Bobby Bushey reference from the water boy...

Well, duh - that's because it was Bobby Boucher (pronounced boo-SHAY for you guys who refuse to give anything its proper French twist).

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Well, duh - that's because it was Bobby Boucher (pronounced boo-SHAY for you guys who refuse to give anything its proper French twist).

 

Next time someone asks me how I say my last name I will say Boo-SHAY. Makes me seem more complex and possibly more skillful at everything.

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Next time someone asks me how I say my last name I will say Boo-SHAY. Makes me seem more complex and possibly more skillful at everything.

Sorry man, you're English. Tough break. :D

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I agree with your brother-in-law . The BCS seemed like a great idea on its inception, but hasn't lived up to the hype. I'd just as soon be in the Rose Bowl against a USC, UCLA or Oregon team , then playing for a title that seems mythical each season. At least the old system didn't give anyone the "expectations" of grandure.

No, I disagree. The BCS only seemed like a great idea to the peopl epulling the strings. College football fans knew it for the POS that it is the moment it was announced.

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I agree with your brother-in-law . The BCS seemed like a great idea on its inception, but hasn't lived up to the hype. I'd just as soon be in the Rose Bowl against a USC, UCLA or Oregon team , then playing for a title that seems mythical each season. At least the old system didn't give anyone the "expectations" of grandure.

 

Hmmm Big 10 and Pac 10 guys agreeing. :D

 

It's funny how the SEC has grown to become the number one conference once the BCS came into being. We all use to be suckered into that Rose Bowl crap. No wonder the Big 10 and Pac 10 intially refused to join the BCS and why they are against the playoffs.

 

They know we could have an all SEC NC game if a playoff system was put in place. :D

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Hmmm Big 10 and Pac 10 guys agreeing. :D

 

It's funny how the SEC has grown to become the number one conference once the BCS came into being. We all use to be suckered into that Rose Bowl crap. No wonder the Big 10 and Pac 10 intially refused to join the BCS and why they are against the playoffs.

 

They know we could have an all SEC NC game if a playoff system was put in place. :D

 

I would imagine that the PAC10 and BIG10 had reservations because they realized like many of us that the BCS is a joke. The SEC is the best conference this year without a doubt. That being said, I am going to laugh my a$$ off when LSU loses in the SEC championship and gets jumped by Oregon. That laughter will be at your expense and your big blah...blah mouth. Guess it will be the ROSE BOWL crap that you will just have to swallow along with the BCS you enjoy. Ahhh...Breath in that ROSE bowl possibility....

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Big Ten and Pac 10 have/had reservations because of tradition. They AND the Rose Bowl have wanted their traditional match up, and can't stand it when it is an outsider. It's why they were the ones that held out of the stupid Bowl Alliance thing from 1995-1997. They control all the major markets, it is ALL Economic. Just like conference championship games. Trust me on this, if these sponsors and corporations felt that they could make more money with a playoff, it would have happened years ago. The fact is, these Bowls are like ATM machines for these folks. And yes, the Big Ten and Pac 10 probably do benefit financially from the current system.

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