Scooby Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If the Vikings do not get a "Drew Brees type" free agent QB next year (help b/c I do not know who that could be), then Minn. will have wasted the prime (yes AP is already in his prime) years of Adrian Peterson. Can you say Billy Simms? Why bring in Hutchinson and pick Peterson only to have an extremely inexperienced QB running the show (or should I say wasting time)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Wow give us a break... It has been 8 games. Wait until the off season to see what this team does. The Lions waisted Barry, the Colts waisted Dickenson, Faulk and Edge, the Chiefs waisted Holmes and now LJ, SD has waisted LT so far. (There are probably more examples) The Vikings have a lot of CAP room, a new stadium push, and an owner who wants to win. Wait until the offseason to pass judgement to see what the Vikings do in the offseason to come up with a passing threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (There are probably more examples) The Giants wasted Tiki The Dolphins wasted Marino next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Cleo Lemon has got to be an upgrade over TT... Same goes for Sage Rosenfelds. They won't set the world on fire, but they'll certainly improve the QB position... Cleveland has too many QBs as well. Cpep back to Minny with another year to heal the leg? Any of these would be better. Heck... just allowing the team to tie their tool of a coach up and allow the players to beat him like a pinata could make all the difference in moral and in turn increase the quality of the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) It's his rookie season. The Vikings have at least 5 years (if not many many more) to add talent to their team in the positions of weakness (QB, WR, Coach). Only 1 team each season actually wins the Super Bowl, and I hardly believe that all other players on all other teams have wasted their talent by not being on the Championship team. Isn't that what it all boils down to? Edited November 5, 2007 by Savage Beatings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well, if we can include Indy "wasting" Edge by featuring him in an offense perfectly suited to his talents and contending most of his years there... OK, then, the Bills wasted Jim Kelly, the Jazz wasted Malone and Stockton, the Vikings wasted Tarkington, and every great player without a ring was "wasted" on the team he played. That said, the OP is correct. This teams needs a QB something fierce. Their D would be good enough if they didn't have to spend so much damned time on the field, AP would be good for more steady production (as opposed to getting stopped at the line a bunch of times only to bust the occasional long run because he's just too good to stop forever) if the D had any reason to believe something besides AP could ever hurt them... That's the thing. Unlike previous teams with bad Os but amazing young RBs, the O-line is solid. It's just that 5 guys can't block 8 every time. Put even a decent QB back there and at least the O-line has a chance play in and play out. There could be a situation brewing in Cleveland not unlike SD a few years ago and perhaps another Brees type could become available. Assuming Quinn is as good as he's looked in his limited action, you've got to think that they're ultimately going to go his way. That leaves Anderson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 There could be a situation brewing in Cleveland not unlike SD a few years ago and perhaps another Brees type could become available. Assuming Quinn is as good as he's looked in his limited action, you've got to think that they're ultimately going to go his way. That leaves Anderson... Would Brees have gone had he not had that shoulder injury? Until then I thought Rivers was the more likely one to be traded. I think the Browns would be fools to let Anderson go. Quinn could be available though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Would Brees have gone had he not had that shoulder injury? Until then I thought Rivers was the more likely one to be traded. I think the Browns would be fools to let Anderson go. Quinn could be available though. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Natural fit seems to be McNabb, if Childress thinks he has a couple years left in the tank. McNabb knows Childress's system inside and out, and another year recovered from his injury should help him even more. A trade for McNabb, and adding a #1 WR via free agency, and this team, with its OL and defense, would be a true competitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Possibilities for next year: McNabb Culpepper Anderson/Quinn Pennington rookies: Brennan, Brohm, Ryan, Woodson, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Oh and another thing... (yes AP is already in his prime) Most RB's take a year or two to figure out the timing of the pro game (waiting for the blocks to develop before hitting the holes, etc.) so to make this claim is pretty ridiculous. Back it up with something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Oh and another thing... Most RB's take a year or two to figure out the timing of the pro game (waiting for the blocks to develop before hitting the holes, etc.) so to make this claim is pretty ridiculous. Back it up with something. Well, nobody in the history of the NFL has rushed for more yards in a game. That's not bad. I'm sure the intention of the OP was that, he's already ready to help a good team win. Unlike other backs, you don't have the excuse that he's a work in progress. Certainly, he should only get better as he learns the game more but he's already making guys look silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystykoekaki Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 This teams needs a QB something fierce. Scooby can suck something fierce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Scooby can suck something fierce. Dude, that was pretty uncalled for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If the Vikings do not get a "Drew Brees type" free agent QB next year (help b/c I do not know who that could be), then Minn. will have wasted the prime (yes AP is already in his prime) years of Adrian Peterson. Can you say Billy Simms? Why bring in Hutchinson and pick Peterson only to have an extremely inexperienced QB running the show (or should I say wasting time)? 8 games into his NFL career, and Peterson is in his prime. LMMFAO, you wish. besides, early on, LT didnt have a Qb either. Many forget Brees was awful his first few years in the NFL. And not until the yar before his FA did he even put up modest numbers. Then he was franchised, and had his best yr in SD, then walked after that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If McNabb goes to the Vikings I'll become a Lions fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Dude, that was pretty uncalled for. And while I agree 100%, this is a funny comment in an ironic kind of way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 If McNabb goes to the Vikings I'll become a Lions fan. Oh c'mon, he's at least an average QB. I'll take that at this point. Of course I want better, but what's out there? I'd like to see them take both a solid vet AND a high draft pick. That position needs to be restocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Seahawks will take back Hutchinson now. TIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Possibilities for next year: McNabb Culpepper Anderson/Quinn Pennington rookies: Brennan, Brohm, Ryan, Woodson, etc I have no interest in who the Vikes snag at QB but can Culpepper's career just die already? I would be if I were a Vikes fan and Childress went after Culpepper. No better than the thrilling trio of Tarvaris, Holcomb, and Bollinger imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Oh c'mon, he's at least an average QB. I'll take that at this point. Of course I want better, but what's out there? I'd like to see them take both a solid vet AND a high draft pick. That position needs to be restocked. bugger did very well with the same coach and a similar grade of wides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I have no interest in who the Vikes snag at QB but can Culpepper's career just die already? I would be if I were a Vikes fan and Childress went after Culpepper. No better than the thrilling trio of Tarvaris, Holcomb, and Bollinger imo. no way would it happen with Childress, but what would. Cpep has had success in his career. he has had success. w/ and w/o Moss. I know, he fumbles and such - but he's better than the H.R. Puffenstuffs the Vikes have. he was given a bum deal in Miami... and he could not play his game because he was not mobile ((as far as the bum deal goes - Cpep - get a flipping agent... you might be talented but you're not the sharpest crayon in the box)) his time in Oakland now is of no relevance (except his knee is better) because Oakland just plain sucks - just look at Moss in Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 no way would it happen with Childress, but what would. Cpep has had success in his career. he has had success. w/ and w/o Moss. ... Ok, I know Tarvaris/Holcomb/Bollinger look bad but slowly step back from the precipice. Culpepper isn't anyone's answer at QB. And I'd also disagree that Culpepper has had success WITHOUT Randy Moss... 3 teams in 3 years, 2 surgeries, avg QB rating of 74, 12 pass TDs to 17 INTs. Randy only missed 3 games as a Viking, all in '04, yet he still accounted for 13 TDs. Also, I wouldn't say that any of Moss' teammates (QB/RBs/WRs) have had continued success WITHOUT Moss after '04... Culpepper... see above. Burleson... that 1000yd/9 TD season sure seems like ages ago. Keep up the good work on special teams though, Nate. Robinson... actually he did have success without Moss just not much success AFTER Moss. But he'll always have the memories of Chicago '99. Campbell... hasn't played since. Bennett/Moore/Whizzinator/Williams... on his 2nd team, 3rd on the depth chart, out of the league, ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 maybe my memory is all squirrly but I recall Moss being injured the year before Cpep messed up his knee and Cpep doing quite well... now.. I am not saying that he is a pro-bowler, but that he is better than the cats they have. maybe I am wrong because he cannot beat out mccown but that just might be the raiders being the raiders. whatever the case - with childress there, it won't happen. and -hopefully- someone better will be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) maybe my memory is all squirrly but I recall Moss being injured the year before Cpep messed up his knee and Cpep doing quite well...... Very common misperception perpetuated by sports media and others... Moss led the Vikes in receiving from '98 to '03 playing in all 16 games in every season over that span. In '04, his last season as a Vike, he was knicked up all season but still managed to suit up for 13 games. Of those 13 games, only one game did Moss not have at least 1 TD. Edited November 5, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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