Bill Swerski Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Jesus, Swerski, lay off!!!! Alright, you caught me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Well superman had come to town to see who he could rock, he blew away every kid he faced until he reached our block, his speakers were three stories high (like the Colts) with woofers made of steel............. Whomp, you lead me right into that. Jam on It. Man, you just don't hear enough "Nucleus" on the radio these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) So do the Seahawks and Chiefs have an unfair homefield advantage as well? Even if their noise is 100% man-made, the end result is still the same. Should the NFL impose some sort of a decibel limit? You can't even possibly relate the two The NFL can't allow artificial intrusions to the game, that's like having the Pats blow in snow for their playoff games Edited November 5, 2007 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrudge Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Much ado about nothing: Link Colts cleared of cheating against Patriots Newsday has learned that the NFL's investigation into complaints from the Patriots that the Colts had illegally piped in crowd noise is over. It didn't take the league long to find out that the Colts were not at fault for a crowd noise issue. "CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts game was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast," NFL vice president Greg Aiello tells us. "It was in no way related to any sound within the stadium and could not be heard in the stadium." more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Much ado about nothing: Link Colts cleared of cheating against Patriots Newsday has learned that the NFL's investigation into complaints from the Patriots that the Colts had illegally piped in crowd noise is over. It didn't take the league long to find out that the Colts were not at fault for a crowd noise issue. "CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts game was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast," NFL vice president Greg Aiello tells us. "It was in no way related to any sound within the stadium and could not be heard in the stadium." more... So what about TOS's claims people inside the stadium heard the noise??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Jam on It. Man, you just don't hear enough "Nucleus" on the radio these days Wikki, wikki, wikki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) So what about TOS's claims people inside the stadium heard the noise??? I only quoted what what reported http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_exper...e?urn=nfl,52422 Observers at the game said there seemed to be a "skip" in the sound during the game Sunday, which the Patriots won 24-20. That might confirm the long-held suspicion among many people in the NFL that the Colts play loud crowd noise to help distract opponents when the other team is on offense. Edited November 5, 2007 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Pat!!! Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 You can't even possibly relate the two The NFL can't not allow artificial intrusions to the game, that's like having the Pats blow in snow for their playoff games Agreed. It has no place in the game. Remember a few years back before the QBs had the headsets in the helmets there were all the penalties home teams were getting because their crowds were too loud? That was natural noise () and the league had to monitor it becasue of unfair advantages. They certainly aren't going to let teams use un-natural noises, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 The NFL issued a statement Monday regarding artificial crowd nose that Jonathan Kraft, son of Patriots owner Bob Kraft, alleges was pumped into the RCA Dome during Sunday's New England-Indianapolis game. "CBS has informed us that the unusual audio moment heard by fans during the Patriots-Colts telecast was the result of tape feedback in the CBS production truck and was isolated to the CBS broadcast," the statement from league spokesman Greg Aiello reads. Patriots coach Bill Belichick mentioned Monday that the team didn't have communication with Tom Brady during the game, which was a greater concern Cover up and more controvery ?? Brady had no communications with the sidelines either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 You can't even possibly relate the two The NFL can't allow artificial intrusions to the game, that's like having the Pats blow in snow for their playoff games Or like the Pats watering down their field during the week before a playoff game? Oh, wait, they already do that. I agree that "piping in" artificial noise is wrong (not to mention pathetic and embarrassing). Just wanted to point out that it's a gray area, though. Crowd noise differs vastly around the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) Any audio engineer with a half of brain will recognize that sound. ARgh. ok ok ok FINE! How can I not respond to that statement? I went and listened to the questionable crowd noise. I'm not buying super-Pats fan live sound engineers diagnosis entirely. It COULD be what he's saying, and live sound is not my bag. But what I'm not hearing at all is a reflection once the mics are dropped. If the mic'd sound was up that high, and what we were hearing was in the Dome when it dropped out, we should have heard the verb and reflections of the pumped in sound when it stopped. When the stuttering crowd noise stops in the PFT recording, there is no reflection sound afterwards. No "echo" or tail on the sound that is no longer there. Also, I think the building mid freq that guy talks about should be more predominate. Feedback loops are normally much more extreme and don't produce as exact a repeat of what we're hearing. But, if this was a subtle level adjustment that pushed things over the edge, I could see it being that subtle I guess. Again, I'm not a live sound guy, could be something I'm not familiar with. This sounds to me sounds more like a crowd noise sound file that was playing in software that crashed. Whether that was in the Dome or in the broadcast, dunno. I still think this was CBS ginking it up, and not an issue in the Dome. Were the reports from the Dome, from Pats fans?? My 2 cents as a guy in audio for a living. UPDATE: @#%$#@^!@!!! BEHIND THE CURVE AGAIN! Edited November 5, 2007 by Sturphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Cover up and more controvery ?? Brady had no communications with the sidelines either Joe Gibbs at no communications with his QB at Foxoboro last weekend, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 +1. It was also Polian on the grassy knoll with a Russian-issue sniper's rifle. I'd have a hard time believing that Dungy/Peyton (being the stand-up guys that they are, and I mean that) would support winning games using tactics like this, if they even knew Whats funny is, we all know Brady and belicheat would stoop to this level. That is the difference between these 2 teams. that and the Colts are the SB Champs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Joe Gibbs at no communications with his QB at Foxoboro last weekend, either. Is that necessarily a BAD thing for Cambell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyr0802 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 You suggesting I'm the biased source? Hey, I just saw this on another board and cut & pasted. (Plus, I write non-fiction, not fiction, and couldn't have created this engineer's tech-nerd take on stadium sound if you paid me.) And Swesrki, nice touch with your "quote" button making it look like I]/i] was the one who said/wrote that stuff, as opposed to the writer of the thing I cut and pasted (i.e the alleged sound engineer). But if it allowed you to use those funny smilies I'm all for it...not sure if that's what you were intending, but well played. No not at all, I was suggesting the story you linked was from a biased source. SInce the NFL has cleared the Colts of this I would think this is a dead issue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 That is the difference between these 2 teams. Well, that and two additional SB titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 No not at all, I was suggesting the story you linked was from a biased source. SInce the NFL has cleared the Colts of this I would think this is a dead issue now. I still think Polian was up to some sort of shenanigans and CBS (via Goodell's orders) is taking the fall a la Lee Harvey "patsy" Oswald. DAMMIT, SOMEONE GET ME OLVER STONE ALREADY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fballfreak Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 You suggesting I'm the biased source? Hey, I just saw this on another board and cut & pasted. (Plus, I write non-fiction, not fiction, and couldn't have created this engineer's tech-nerd take on stadium sound if you paid me.) And Swesrki, nice touch with your "quote" button making it look like I]/i] was the one who said/wrote that stuff, as opposed to the writer of the thing I cut and pasted (i.e the alleged sound engineer). But if it allowed you to use those funny smilies I'm all for it...not sure if that's what you were intending, but well played. Even the Indy fans are trying to cheat in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Even the Indy fans are trying to cheat in this thread. That is one massively ghey avatar there, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chester Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Aren't there like 200 cameras going during a football game? Not all have audio, but some do. Wouldn't it be quite simple to play one not belonging to CBS and see if it's there in the arena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fballfreak Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 That is one massively ghey avatar there, bud. glad you hate it DEAL W/ IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fballfreak Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 All I know is that with 1 minute left to the game last night you could hear a pin drop in that stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyr0802 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 All I know is that with 1 minute left to the game last night you could hear a pin drop in that stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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