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Feel free to post anything in here about Picks, Advice, Critique or Info. The more accurate information we have at our fingertips, the better off we are.

 

I have posted 2 types of plays this year. My system plays which are derived from a system I have created, and my posted plays are either plays in addition to those plays (or at times may fade the system), or system plays which I want to alert as plays I think should have value:

 

I will update my system plays in the next post. Here are my posted plays:

 

Week 1: 5-0 (Leans posted not played: 3-1)

Week 2: 2-1

Week 3: 4-0

Week 4: 3-1

Week 5: 2-2-1

Week 6: 3-2-1

Week 7: 2-4

Week 8: 1-5

Week 9: 5-6 (Leans posted 2-0):

 

Overall: 27-21-2

(Including leans: 32-22-2)

 

I'll share my updated system records and week 10 system plays next....

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System Plays Week 10:

 

1. Top ATS predictor has gone 7-3 (70%) this season and went 1-0 last weekend. This weekend it is taking:

 

Oak

 

2. Top 5 leans each week:

 

Week 3: 4-1

Week 4: 5-0

Week 5: 2-3

Week 6: 3-2

Week 7: 2-3

Week 8: 3-2

Week 9: 4-1

 

Total 23-12 (66%)

 

For week 10, the top 5 leans are:

 

Ten

Pit

NO

Oak

Sea

 

 

3. I have one ATS simulator that is pretty honest, and one that is more biased towards the dogs. I keep track of when both simulators show value for the same team. This system has gone 28-16 ATS so far (64%) which includes 4-2 last week.

 

This week both systems show value for:

 

Mia

NYG

Det

Ind

 

4. I have also tracked when I have seen the wrong team favored. In other words, times when my system is showing the dog could actually win the game. In some cases, the dog does win, in other cases he covers, and then of course, there are times he fails to cover.

 

Here's how those picks have gone:

 

Week 3: Hou over Indy (ATS and SU Loss), GB over SD (ATS and SU Win), ATL over Car (ATS and SU Loss), Ten over NO (ATS and SU win). 2-2 ATS, 2-2 SU

Week 4: Cle over Bal (ATS and SU Win), Det over Chi (ATS and SU Win), Buf tie w/ NYJ (ATS win and SU Loss), NYG over Phi (ATS and SU win). 4-0 ATS, 3-1 SU

Week 5: KC over Jac (ATS and SU Loss), SF over Bal (ATS win and SU Loss). 1-1 ATS, 0-2 SU

Week 6: KC over Cin (ATS and SU Win). 1-0 ATS, 1-0 SU

Week 7: Buf over Bal (ATS and SU Win), TB over Det (ATS and SU Loss), Jac over Ind (ATS and SU Loss). 1-2 ATS and 1-2 SU

Week 8: Min over Philly (ATS and SU Loss)

Week 9: NYJ over Was (ATS Win, SU Loss), Jac over NO (ATS and SU Loss), Buf over Cin (ATS and SU Win), Phi over Dal (ATS and SU Loss)

 

Summary: 11-8 ATS, 8-11 SU

 

Even a below .500 record SU can net you solid profits if you are taking these dogs on the moneyline.

 

This week here's the games the system is showing the wrong team is favored:

 

Mia over Buf

Oak over Chi

NYG over Dal

Det over Ari

 

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Now, onto the O/U Systems:

 

1. Top Overs predictor has gone 11-0 this season including 2-0 last weekend.

 

This weekend it has no selections.

 

2. I also have another Overs predictor which is 14-4 (78%) this season including 1-1 last weekend.

 

This weekend it is selecting:

 

Pit/Cle Over

Dal/NYG Over

 

3. The best Overs simulator has gone 26-14 this season (65%) including 3-2 last weekend. Here are all Overs leans for this weekend:

 

StL/NO UNDER

Was/Phi Over

Min/GB Over

Chi/Oak Over

Jac/Ten Over

 

4. The best Unders simulator has gone 35-24 (59%) including a dreadful 3-6 last weekend to bring it down to earth (was in the mid 60%s all season prior to that). Here are all Unders leans for this weekend:

 

Mia/Buf Under

StL/NO Under

Atl/Car Under

Bal/Cin Under

Ari/Det Under

Ind/SD Under

SF/Sea Under

KC/Den Under

 

5. When I combine these 2 simulators and compare each game, there are times that even the Over simulator has a lean to the Under, and sometimes even the Unders simulator has a lean to the Over. When both simulators lean to the same side, I have tracked those plays. There have been 32 times this season it has happened, and the record has been 28-17 (62%) including 4-5 last weekend.

 

This weekend we have:

 

StL/NO Under

Ind/SD Under

SF/Sea Under

Jac/Ten Over

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You haven't had a winning week since week 4. Maybe you should hang it up.

 

You must be new to reading this thread.

 

Just because my "posted plays" did not win, does not mean my "system plays" lost. Check the system's records - every single ATS "system play", with the exception of my "other team favored" (which is 11-8 ATS and focuses on tossing some spread but more ML on dogs, therefore has been winning good $), is above 60%.

 

Last week, for instance, one went 1-0, the other 4-1, the other 4-2. Overall, those 3 plays are 58-31= 65% ATS.

 

O/U generators are also well above the winning 52.4%. My top 2 plays are 11-0 (100%) and 14-4 (78%) on the season. The others are 26-14 (65%), 35-24 (59%) and 28-17 (62%).

 

Hard to argue w/ its success.

 

The only week I've lost money this season was week 8. In addition to playing what I post, I do lay a decent chunk on in-game and halftime betting, which I aim for value and hit some quality middles that way.

 

Sure, I'd like my posted play record to be better, but it's still 32-22-2 which is 59% and very much in the + money. So don't worry about me - I'm pretty far in the black this season, whether you look at my posted plays, my posted system plays, or my non-posted halftime/in game plays. When you combine them all, I have no problem defending the fact that I spend several hours a week in this thread. The time researching and running the systems is paying me quite well. But thanks for the concern.

 

If you are familiar w/ gambling, you'll know it's very easy to have a hot streak of a few good weeks, making only a few plays a week. When you've made a combined 335 plays (granted on some occasions plays are recommended multiple times, in which case I play them 2x or 3x as hard) over 9 weeks (this is counting my system plays and my posted plays) and have a record of:

 

215-120-2 (64%)

 

Then tell me about a few of weeks of non-winning "posted plays". Again, the numbers above do not count my halftime/in-game plays, which I don't post.

 

My primary goal is to help us all get good reads on games and share info, and make money. I keep track of my "system plays" and "posted plays" so that people know how to take my advice. It helps me when I read someone's lean to know if they are hot (like rat has been) or cold or win money or lose money. If it's info we share, it does not matter what their record is, but if it's plays they share, I like to know where they are coming from....

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You haven't had a winning week since week 4. Maybe you should hang it up.

 

Also, just looked and week 6 was winning as well, so if you want to tell me my "posted plays" have not won since then, that is accurate. Please, don't tail me - we've got many fine cappers here like Rattsass, G-Dawg, Mojo Rising and Swammi who all post plays here regularly. Follow them. We have other guys who are regulars and toss in plays on occasion, such as Trots and whomper. Overall, a great and lively bunch w/ good info and tips. These are the guys who keep this thread moving, and keep me cranking out numbers based on insightful questions. Good work guys...

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Thanks guys. Duke - your post makes me realize that there are others out there who probably read this thread each week but don't make any comments. Some of you are probably pretty good and have made some $ this season like the rest of us. Please take a minute to let us know what your top plays are for the week, or comment on others plays either in support or in opposition. The more info we have to make educated plays, the better off we are.

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Bye Week Trend Plays

 

All stats/trends go back to 2002, when the restructuring occurred.

 

#1: If a team is favored by 6.5 points or more and playing the last game prior to a bye, they are 29-1 SU and 26-5 ATS (84%).

 

As this is the last week for byes, no one will fit this system anymore. We finished the season 4-1 w/ this trend, the only loss being NYG to Mia when they were in London (which made the play less appealing to most, I presume).

 

#2: If a team is a Road Fav and coming off a bye, they are 21-10 ATS (68%).

 

Last week we went 1-0 w/ Dal winning. That brings it to 5-2 on the season. This week we have Chi-3 at Oak.

 

#3: If a team is a Home Fav and coming off a bye, they are 42-26 ATS (62%)

 

Last week we went 1-1 w/ this trend, w/ ATL winning and KC losing. That brings it to 4-3 on the season. This week we have no teams that fit the bill.

 

So in total, this season these bye week trends have gone 13-6 (68%), and since 2002 they have gone 89-41 (68%). Extremely consistent...

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Thanks guys. Duke - your post makes me realize that there are others out there who probably read this thread each week but don't make any comments. Some of you are probably pretty good and have made some $ this season like the rest of us. Please take a minute to let us know what your top plays are for the week, or comment on others plays either in support or in opposition. The more info we have to make educated plays, the better off we are.

 

i don't post on this thread and i don't bet (anymore...), but i read every post on this thread every week! Dre...the depth you go to gather you data and spin in it into plays each week absolutely amazes me. i appreciate somebody who is passionate about what they do, whatever it may be, and the stats and info that you produce here every week are so full of research and well thought out constucted advice that i can't believe somebody could could think of taking a jab at you. whether you win or lose, all this thread is about is trying to gather as much useful info as possible. and what truly amazes me is when somebody throws out a question like " hey dre, what are the stats on a home dog coming off of 2 road losses on grass" or something like that, and then you respond with 7 or 8 well thought out paragraphs with stats and trends supporting plays. you don't need to do that, but you are here to help. plus you post all the insider plays that people PAY hundreds/thousands of dollars for. keep it up Dre and everybody else that posts on here. F anybody that busts on this thread or your info!!

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Bye Week Trend Plays

 

All stats/trends go back to 2002, when the restructuring occurred.

 

#1: If a team is favored by 6.5 points or more and playing the last game prior to a bye, they are 29-1 SU and 26-5 ATS (84%).

 

As this is the last week for byes, no one will fit this system anymore. We finished the season 4-1 w/ this trend, the only loss being NYG to Mia when they were in London (which made the play less appealing to most, I presume).

 

#2: If a team is a Road Fav and coming off a bye, they are 21-10 ATS (68%).

 

Last week we went 1-0 w/ Dal winning. That brings it to 5-2 on the season. This week we have Chi-3 at Oak.

 

#3: If a team is a Home Fav and coming off a bye, they are 42-26 ATS (62%)

 

Last week we went 1-1 w/ this trend, w/ ATL winning and KC losing. That brings it to 4-3 on the season. This week we have no teams that fit the bill.

 

So in total, this season these bye week trends have gone 13-6 (68%), and since 2002 they have gone 89-41 (68%). Extremely consistent...

 

Those are pretty solid trends, especially #1. WOW! 26-5, that is about as close to free money as you will find. Hopefully you will be around to remind us next September. Or maybe I will be able to remember. Nah, probably not.

 

Great stuff as always Dre. Very grateful we have a numbers guy here sharing.

 

Short term losses in gambling happen. Short term gains happen. A few weeks back I was off and Dre was on. Lately I have been on and Dre has off. As long as you end up with more than you started, short term winning or losing records mean nothing. No gambler kicks it all season long.

 

But it is easier to rack somebody up on the thread if you aren't putting your ass on the line by offering up your picks I suppose.

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Also, just looked and week 6 was winning as well, so if you want to tell me my "posted plays" have not won since then, that is accurate. Please, don't tail me - we've got many fine cappers here like Rattsass, G-Dawg, Mojo Rising and Swammi who all post plays here regularly. Follow them. We have other guys who are regulars and toss in plays on occasion, such as Trots and whomper. Overall, a great and lively bunch w/ good info and tips. These are the guys who keep this thread moving, and keep me cranking out numbers based on insightful questions. Good work guys...

 

You handled that clown with class Dre. :D And thanks, but it's your world, I'm just visitin :D

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Those are pretty solid trends, especially #1. WOW! 26-5, that is about as close to free money as you will find. Hopefully you will be around to remind us next September. Or maybe I will be able to remember. Nah, probably not.

 

Great stuff as always Dre. Very grateful we have a numbers guy here sharing.

 

Short term losses in gambling happen. Short term gains happen. A few weeks back I was off and Dre was on. Lately I have been on and Dre has off. As long as you end up with more than you started, short term winning or losing records mean nothing. No gambler kicks it all season long.

 

But it is easier to rack somebody up on the thread if you aren't putting your ass on the line by offering up your picks I suppose.

 

Very true Rat. Great job of late, and hopefully it will continue. Interested to hear what you've got lined up for this week whenever you finalize your selections.

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You handled that clown with class Dre. :D And thanks, but it's your world, I'm just visitin :D

 

Thanks Gdawg. But your insights are just as valuable as mine or anyone else's. You've been doing well lately like Rat, so I'll be interested to hear what you've got on tap this week.

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2. Top 5 leans each week:

 

Week 3: 4-1

Week 4: 5-0

Week 5: 2-3

Week 6: 3-2

Week 7: 2-3

Week 8: 3-2

Week 9: 4-1

 

Total 23-12 (66%)

 

For week 10, the top 5 leans are:

 

Mia

Pit

NO

Oak

Sea

 

Guys, I have to bring this to your attention. When I was running the latest update, Pinny didn't have up the Ten/Jac line or the KC/Den line. Therefore, it did not run that game. After running it, the only change it made was to bump Mia out of the top 5. Ten moves in on the top 5, and Mia moves out.

 

Now, that doesn't mean it now likes Buf. Mia has not changed, so in #3 where it says "This week both systems show value for: Mia", that is still true, and it is still picking Mia to win.

 

As for the O/U, the following selections need to be added:

 

To #3, note it likes Jac/Ten Over

 

To #4, note it likes KC/Den Under

 

To #5, note it shows value in both simulators on Jac/Ten Over

 

NOTE: I am now going to go back and place these plays in the original thread.

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Teams on a bye last week:

 

CHI, MIA, NYG, STL

 

How they've done off of byes (since 2002):

 

Chi 1-4 ATS: Only win (SU or ATS) was last year.

Mia 3-2 ATS, including SU win over Chi last year, even though they were a +13.5 point road dog Of course, coaching staff has changed.

NYG 2-3 ATS, but have covered 2 in a row (Therefore under Coughlin they are 2-1, winning the last 2)

STL 2-3 ATS, but those 2 wins came in 02 and 03 when Martz and Faulk were there. They've lost the last 3 SU and ATS. Granted, Linehan was only there last year, where they lost as a 9.5 point road dog in SD by 14 points.

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Thanks Gdawg. But your insights are just as valuable as mine or anyone else's. You've been doing well lately like Rat, so I'll be interested to hear what you've got on tap this week.

 

Anytime Dre. I really appreciate the number-crunching you provide every week, excellent stuff :D

 

I've been up recently, in part due to jumping on top of sudden line changes. Never hurts to hang around the computer, as we all know :D

 

Haven't taken TOO much of a look yet this week, kinda got caught up in Fantasy pickups and the college games but after tonight's game I'll be hittin' the matchups hard, hopefully I can dig up something and pitch in.

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Team ATS

New England 8-1-0

Green Bay 6-1-1

Dallas 6-2-0

Indianapolis 6-2-0

Pittsburgh 6-2-0

Cleveland 6-2-0

Buffalo 6-2-0

Detroit 5-2-1

N.Y. Giants 5-3-0

Tennessee 5-3-0

Arizona 5-3-0

Atlanta 5-3-0

Kansas City 4-3-1

Tampa Bay 5-4-0

Jacksonville 4-4-0

Carolina 4-4-0

San Diego 4-4-0

Minnesota 3-3-2

Houston 4-5-0

Washington 2-4-2

New Orleans 3-5-0

Seattle 3-5-0

Philadelphia 3-5-0

Cincinnati 3-5-0

Oakland 3-5-0

Miami 2-4-2

N.Y. Jets 2-6-1

Chicago 2-6-0

San Francisco 2-6-0

Baltimore 1-7-0

Denver 1-7-0

St. Louis 1-7-0

 

Team SU W/L

New England 9-0-0

Green Bay 7-1-0

Dallas 7-1-0

Indianapolis 7-1-0

Pittsburgh 6-2-0

Detroit 6-2-0

N.Y. Giants 6-2-0

Tennessee 6-2-0

Tampa Bay 5-4-0

Cleveland 5-3-0

Jacksonville 5-3-0

Washington 5-3-0

Houston 4-5-0

Buffalo 4-4-0

Kansas City 4-4-0

Carolina 4-4-0

San Diego 4-4-0

New Orleans 4-4-0

Seattle 4-4-0

Baltimore 4-4-0

Arizona 3-5-0

Minnesota 3-5-0

Philadelphia 3-5-0

Chicago 3-5-0

Denver 3-5-0

Atlanta 2-6-0

Cincinnati 2-6-0

Oakland 2-6-0

San Francisco 2-6-0

N.Y. Jets 1-8-0

Miami 0-8-0

St. Louis 0-8-0

 

 

Team O/U

Cleveland 7-0-1

New England 7-2-0

Dallas 6-2-0

Denver 6-2-0

Houston 5-3-1

N.Y. Jets 5-3-1

Green Bay 5-3-0

San Diego 5-3-0

Cincinnati 5-3-0

Miami 5-3-0

Pittsburgh 4-4-0

Detroit 4-4-0

N.Y. Giants 4-4-0

Arizona 4-4-0

Jacksonville 4-4-0

Minnesota 4-4-0

New Orleans 4-4-0

Chicago 4-4-0

Oakland 4-3-1

Tampa Bay 3-6-0

Indianapolis 3-5-0

Buffalo 3-5-0

Kansas City 3-5-0

Washington 3-5-0

Seattle 3-5-0

Philadelphia 3-5-0

San Francisco 3-5-0

Baltimore 3-3-2

Atlanta 2-6-0

Carolina 2-6-0

St. Louis 2-6-0

Tennessee 1-7-0

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Also, just looked and week 6 was winning as well, so if you want to tell me my "posted plays" have not won since then, that is accurate. Please, don't tail me - we've got many fine cappers here like Rattsass, G-Dawg, Mojo Rising and Swammi who all post plays here regularly. Follow them. We have other guys who are regulars and toss in plays on occasion, such as Trots and whomper. Overall, a great and lively bunch w/ good info and tips. These are the guys who keep this thread moving, and keep me cranking out numbers based on insightful questions. Good work guys...

 

 

ignore this fool- he jumps into the college forum and busts my balls there, with comments like "there goes the rent money" on a 5-3 week, he has no clue.

 

dude is an id-yet-

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There's always a few like that wildcat....

 

Onto a study of winless teams heading into the 9th week (or later) of the season.

 

We have not had a winless team like Mia and StL since 2002.

 

In 2002, Cin was winless until week 9, where they won SU and ATS vs. Hou

 

In 2001, Det was winless thru 8 weeks. They continued losing until week 15, but went 6-1 ATS during those 7 weeks.

 

In 2000, SD was winless thru 8 weeks. They continued losing until week 13, but went 4-1 ATS starting week 9 thru 13.

 

In 1998 both Car and Was were winless thru 8 weeks. They both won SU and ATS in week 9.

 

I could keep going back, but I'll summarize it for you.

 

If you look at winless teams starting halfway thru the season (starting in week 9), you will find that these teams have gone 31-7 ATS.

 

They don't win their games per say (15-22 SU), but they cover very well.

 

So essentially, you could start playing on STL and Mia until they win a game. It's not sure money, but the logic is there. No one likes these teams to do anything this season. Everyone knows they stink. At some point, they will win a game (potentially). But until they do, the lines start working against them more and more.

 

Both are off a bye, so they did not play in week 9. Week 10 is their first shot at getting a win after losing every game for half of the season. My system doesn't like StL this week, and is strong on NO. But it does lean towards Mia possibly getting a cover and maybe even stealing a W. StL has been terrible against the spread, going a league worst 1-7. That's why the line is so high there. Mia has a bad ATS as well, but are just 2-4-2. Meaning they are just two -half points away from being 4-4 ATS (or 2-6 if you are pessimistic).

 

We know the Bills just upset Cincy (which many including me predicted). Now they travel down to Mia before coming home and facing NE. Since 2002, they are 3-6 SU and 4-5 ATS the week before facing NE.

 

When that game is on the road before NE, they are 0-5 SU and 2-3 ATS.

 

As a favorite, they are 0-3 ATS and 1-3 SU.

 

Let's discuss, what do you think about Mia and StL's chances at getting covers this weekend?

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Without really getting into the games Dre, I agree. Based on your numbers and what we know about the two winless teams, I like MIA so far this week, no love for STL.

 

I hate to lay that many points on NO, but it might be the way to go. If memory serves me correctly, as bad as STL has been overall they've been even WORSE on the road.

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A couple other quick points:

 

It is very rare for a team to win 3 games in a row just to get to .500, and then head out as a road favorite.

 

Only has happened 4 times since 1990, the last being STL in 2002.

 

Essentially, we're talking about teams who had poor starts or poor runs, and now have gotten in a groove to win 3 straight and are feeling good.

 

Those 4 teams went 1-3 ATS on the road, and 1-3 SU. Too small a sample size to feel comfortable, but it still says nothing great for Buffalo's position.

 

Lastly, betting & so far:

 

86% spread and 92% ML is on Buf, making the largest lopsided spread bet this week.

 

Indy isn't far behind, w/ 83% spread and 99% ML, making them the most lopsided overall, considering more bets have been placed on them.

 

W/ Buf, the line opened at -3 and has stayed at -3. I think they don't want to move it to -3.5 and get the Mia bets. So for now, it stays on Buf -3 and the bets keep coming in on Buf.

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A couple other quick points:

 

It is very rare for a team to win 3 games in a row just to get to .500, and then head out as a road favorite.

 

Only has happened 4 times since 1990, the last being STL in 2002.

 

Essentially, we're talking about teams who had poor starts or poor runs, and now have gotten in a groove to win 3 straight and are feeling good.

 

Those 4 teams went 1-3 ATS on the road, and 1-3 SU. Too small a sample size to feel comfortable, but it still says nothing great for Buffalo's position.

 

Lastly, betting & so far:

 

86% spread and 92% ML is on Buf, making the largest lopsided spread bet this week.

 

Indy isn't far behind, w/ 83% spread and 99% ML, making them the most lopsided overall, considering more bets have been placed on them.

 

W/ Buf, the line opened at -3 and has stayed at -3. I think they don't want to move it to -3.5 and get the Mia bets. So for now, it stays on Buf -3 and the bets keep coming in on Buf.

 

Most importantly, this is the Crazy as Hell pick of the Week. Man, I had no idea I could influence the betting public so much! :D

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A couple other quick points:

 

It is very rare for a team to win 3 games in a row just to get to .500, and then head out as a road favorite.

 

Only has happened 4 times since 1990, the last being STL in 2002.

 

Essentially, we're talking about teams who had poor starts or poor runs, and now have gotten in a groove to win 3 straight and are feeling good.

 

Those 4 teams went 1-3 ATS on the road, and 1-3 SU. Too small a sample size to feel comfortable, but it still says nothing great for Buffalo's position.

 

Lastly, betting & so far:

 

86% spread and 92% ML is on Buf, making the largest lopsided spread bet this week.

 

Indy isn't far behind, w/ 83% spread and 99% ML, making them the most lopsided overall, considering more bets have been placed on them.

 

W/ Buf, the line opened at -3 and has stayed at -3. I think they don't want to move it to -3.5 and get the Mia bets. So for now, it stays on Buf -3 and the bets keep coming in on Buf.

 

Just checked Bookmaker, MIA is still +3 but the juice is running -125. NO is -11.5, -110 Juice.

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Just checked Bookmaker, MIA is still +3 but the juice is running -125. NO is -11.5, -110 Juice.

 

Lines at some places have shifted. But take a look at some of the lines:

 

Bodog Odds (Line) Over/Under (Total)

11/06/07 6:07:36 PM 3/-120 (Open) OFF

11/06/07 7:12:36 PM 3/-120 40.5 -110 (Open)

11/07/07 1:27:40 AM 3/-115 40.5 -110

11/07/07 2:07:36 PM 3/-115 41 -110

11/07/07 5:52:36 PM 3/-110 41 -110

 

WSEX Odds (Line) Over/Under (Total)

11/05/07 6:41:32 AM 3/-110 (Open) OFF

11/05/07 7:41:33 AM 3/-110 40.5 -110 (Open)

11/05/07 7:51:33 AM 3/-120 40.5 -110

11/07/07 3:01:32 PM 3/-120 41 -110

 

Bodog no change, juice even more attractive for Buf. WSEX has raised the juice. But Pinny has gone from -3 +109 to -3 +113. If they really did not want the line to move off of 3, they'd be raising the juice.

 

Some books have -2.5... despite all lthe Buf action.

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Most importantly, this is the Crazy as Hell pick of the Week. Man, I had no idea I could influence the betting public so much! :D

 

I love those Rat :wacko:

 

Lines at some places have shifted. But take a look at some of the lines:

 

Bodog Odds (Line) Over/Under (Total)

11/06/07 6:07:36 PM 3/-120 (Open) OFF

11/06/07 7:12:36 PM 3/-120 40.5 -110 (Open)

11/07/07 1:27:40 AM 3/-115 40.5 -110

11/07/07 2:07:36 PM 3/-115 41 -110

11/07/07 5:52:36 PM 3/-110 41 -110

 

WSEX Odds (Line) Over/Under (Total)

11/05/07 6:41:32 AM 3/-110 (Open) OFF

11/05/07 7:41:33 AM 3/-110 40.5 -110 (Open)

11/05/07 7:51:33 AM 3/-120 40.5 -110

11/07/07 3:01:32 PM 3/-120 41 -110

 

Bodog no change, juice even more attractive for Buf. WSEX has raised the juice. But Pinny has gone from -3 +109 to -3 +113. If they really did not want the line to move off of 3, they'd be raising the juice.

 

Some books have -2.5... despite all lthe Buf action.

 

Very, very interesting Dre. Man, I love this kind of stuff!

 

EDIT: Guess I could have just said I love gambling :D

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