Bronco Billy Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) According to 950 AM The Fan, Shanahan released to the press that Henry passed a polygraph test and also had a hair follicle test performed that turned out negative. The hearing is supposed to be this Friday. No link - just heard it on the radio a couple of minutes ago. Edited November 12, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 From the Huddle Travis Henry - RB, Denver Broncos 11/12/2007 RB Travis Henry will meet with the NFL on Friday in which more light should be shed on his playing status for the rest of the season. Coach Shanahan made the following statement, “We’ll let due process take care of itself … but if the test was positive, after what he promised me, he would not be on this football team.” Huddle Up: The Broncos seem to be positioning themselves for life this year without Travis Henry in the lineup. RB Selvin Young got the start this week. Shanahan also had this to say about Selvin Young, “It doesn’t surprise me because he’s been doing this since preseason; you can see the speed, explosiveness and quickness in practice … Travis wanted to play (at Kansas City), I just didn’t think it was the best thing for our football team since he didn’t practice during the week … You’ve got to go with the guys that practice and the guys you feel good about.” Fantasy owners of Selvin Young get ready to reap your rewards in the very near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I was pretty happy to get Henry back in August. Now, I almost wish he would just go away one way or the other. Between the injuries and the looming legal stuff, he has been kind of a headache to have on the roster this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I was pretty happy to get Henry back in August. Now, I almost wish he would just go away one way or the other. Between the injuries and the looming legal stuff, he has been kind of a headache to have on the roster this year. Thus it has been for fantasy owners of Denver RBs for several years now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 According to 950 AM The Fan, Shanahan released to the press that Henry passed a polygraph test and also had a hair follicle test performed that turned out negative. The hearing is supposed to be this Friday. No link - just heard it on the radio a couple of minutes ago. Wow! I would think that this may change things a bit. A piss test is different than a hair test. No? I always thought drugs stayed in your system, hair, longer than in your urine. I don't know for sure, I'm just sayin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Wow! I would think that this may change things a bit. A piss test is different than a hair test. No? I always thought drugs stayed in your system, hair, longer than in your urine. I don't know for sure, I'm just sayin. Doesn't this all depend on when the test was done, and the length of Henry's hair? He does still wear it really short, right? Or does he have dreads? (Get it? Josh Gordon? Dreads?...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 This has turned absolutely absurd. On top of it all the guy is injured and not playing anywhere near expectations (especially after the first quarter of the season). I really like what Young brings to this offense and have not seen any fire or desire from Henry since this whole thing blew up. I hope Henry is gone asap just so the fantasy backfield there is sorted out. And this is coming from a Henry owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) full article here... Henry failed a urine test for Josh Gordon and was informed in September he faced a one-year suspension. But Shanahan said Henry told him he submitted a hair sample for testing and did well on a lie detector test. "Yeah coach, did well on that polygraph. Got a solid C+." Sounds to me like the radio show might have misquoted Shanahan... the above reports that Shanahan simply said that Henry did in fact submit a hair sample, Henry told him he "did well" on the polygraph, and the commish will view the facts fairly. Doesn't sound so Earth shattering IMO. Edited November 12, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 full article here... "Yeah coach, did well on that polygraph. Got a solid C+." Sounds to me like the radio show might have misquoted Shanahan... the above reports that Shanahan simply said that Henry did in fact submit a hair sample, Henry told him he "did well" on the polygraph, and the commish will view the facts fairly. Doesn't sound so Earth shattering IMO. All the article says is that Henry did well on a lie detector test. Am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Also... from Denver Post Shanahan said if the independent tests Henry had taken this fall had come back positive, he wouldn't be with the team. And that is why the Broncos are supporting Henry, Shanahan said. Henry tested positive for Josh Gordon use in an August test and faces a one-year ban by the league if he loses his appeal. So the later test came back negative and Shanahan is standing by Henry. Well, according to the league he still tested positive back in August so the possibility of suspension from the league remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Never met Travis Henry but, man I hope he's suspended. Without AD I need Selvin to play. SERIOUSLY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) All the article says is that Henry did well on a lie detector test. Am I missing something? Basically the desperation independant hair test Henry did to clear his name came back negative. He "did well" on the polygraph. What Shanahan is saying is that had those tests come back positive, Henry would be off the team. I don't think that's saying much though considering I don't believe that Shanahan could've done anything until the league made its ruling. Had Shanahan kicked him off the team without letting the league and the CBA dispute over the positive August test take its course, the Broncos would've faced suit from Henry and/or the NFLPA for Henry's reinstatement. Shanahan could however kick him off the team had the later, independant test come back positive because Henry submitted to those tests outside of the CBA/League testing program. Edited November 12, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Those independent tests will be disregarded by the league. They were not done by or under the supervision of the NFL or the NFL's CBA and will most likely be ignored. It's the same way MLB said they would handle it if Barry Bonds produced results from an "independent" test saying he was clean. There is too much opportunity for cheating there. The league only recognizes results of the official testing program. They have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) with any hair test they can tell the last time he inhaled. they can go back and tell him when he first started puffin'. they will be able to find out if he was dirty at the time of the UA with a proper hair test Edited November 12, 2007 by Hugh B Tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) This has turned absolutely absurd. On top of it all the guy is injured and not playing anywhere near expectations (especially after the first quarter of the season). I really like what Young brings to this offense and have not seen any fire or desire from Henry since this whole thing blew up. I hope Henry is gone asap just so the fantasy backfield there is sorted out. And this is coming from a Henry owner. Hate to agree with any (German?) dude who has a picture of a harry David Hasslehoff as his avy, but +1. I'm ready to see Henry settle into early retirement with his 9 kids.... Edited November 12, 2007 by splotchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 with any hair test they can tell the last time he inhaled. they can go back and tell him when he first started puffin'. they will be able to find out if he was dirty at the time of the UA with a proper hair test Is that true? If so find out how many women he had sex with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 why is shanahan always involved with some polygraph test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverlips Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Then why not shave your head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 with any hair test they can tell the last time he inhaled. they can go back and tell him when he first started puffin'. they will be able to find out if he was dirty at the time of the UA with a proper hair test True, but if the test was not done as part of the official testing program the NFL will not trust the results, positive or negative. They can't under the CBA, so regardless of what the hair test says it doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Then why not shave your head? Because they'll take a hair sample from elsewhere on your body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 Is that true? If so find out how many women he had sex with. your hair is like the rings in a tree, very telling stuff in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 True, but if the test was not done as part of the official testing program the NFL will not trust the results, positive or negative. They can't under the CBA, so regardless of what the hair test says it doesn't matter. yep, so his his expensive esquire demands the NFL does a hair test and the delay marches on........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 yep, so his his expensive esquire demands the NFL does a hair test and the delay marches on........ I don't think it delays anything. The NFL is bound by the CBA to do testing exactly as prescribed in the agreement. They will ignore Henry's tests and make a ruling based on the results of their tests that they carried out exactly as the CBA requires. Henry may sue or seek an injunction, but under the terms of the CBA it's unlikely that a judge would grant it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) ... They will ignore Henry's tests and make a ruling based on the results of their tests that they carried out exactly as the CBA requires. ... This isn't 100% true. The whole independent test thing was done by Henry to help him win some PR points and as an attempt to possibly mitigate whatever the league decides. That's what Shanahan is referring to about the league looking 'fair' at the facts. The hope is that the league looks at the independent test results as mitigating pieces information to whatever decision or punishment is decided. Goodell and the league can be 'fair' and take into account the independent test but you are right, they can completely disregard them if they wish. Edited November 12, 2007 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 This isn't 100% true. The whole independent test thing was done by Henry to help him win some PR points and as an attempt to possibly mitigate whatever the league decides. That's what Shanahan is referring to about the league looking 'fair' at the facts. The hope is that the league looks at the independent test results as mitigating pieces information to whatever decision or punishment is decided. Goodell and the league can be 'fair' and take into account the independent test but you are right, they can completely disregard them if they wish. Think of the can of worms they open if they consider unproven, outside evidence. If they considered evidence like that that said that a player was guilty, the Player's Union would crucify them, and rightly so. They simply can't afford to set that precedent, can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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