twiley Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) Try wine-searcher.com. If you can't find it there, start checking the smaller shops. Its available in mags and 375s as well. Just ordered 4 bottles (375s). Edited November 15, 2007 by twiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted November 16, 2007 Author Share Posted November 16, 2007 #1: Clos Des Papes CDP: I didn't think there would be two CdPs in the top 3 but this is a good WOTY. The Baumard got screwed as did many others. It'll be interesting to see where they end up on the Top 100 which will be released Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted November 19, 2007 Author Share Posted November 19, 2007 Complete Top 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 #20 VT La Crau... One of my distributors is always screwing up my orders. Constantly either sending the wrong stuff, missing items that I ordered. etc. All in all, a real hassle. At any rate, I used to have the Vieux Tele 2nd label Vieux du Mas Pape on my list (wholesale $17). I ordered six bottles and they sent me 6 bottles of the VT Chateau Neuf La Crau 2004 instead. Had it not been for the fact that these f'ers are always pissing me off, I would have said something. However, I just figured the fates were just giving me something for my troubles, signed for it, and took it home. At the time, I wasn't all that excited because I was under the impression that '04 wasn't all that in the Southern Rhone. None the less, I've since opened one, and yes, it is lovely indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted November 20, 2007 Author Share Posted November 20, 2007 #20 VT La Crau... One of my distributors is always screwing up my orders. Constantly either sending the wrong stuff, missing items that I ordered. etc. All in all, a real hassle. At any rate, I used to have the Vieux Tele 2nd label Vieux du Mas Pape on my list (wholesale $17). I ordered six bottles and they sent me 6 bottles of the VT Chateau Neuf La Crau 2004 instead. Had it not been for the fact that these f'ers are always pissing me off, I would have said something. However, I just figured the fates were just giving me something for my troubles, signed for it, and took it home. At the time, I wasn't all that excited because I was under the impression that '04 wasn't all that in the Southern Rhone. None the less, I've since opened one, and yes, it is lovely indeed. I think I would have kept my mouth shut too. I'm slowly learning that no matter what the general vintage is like, there are always a few winemakers who can make amazing wines from a poor vintage. I think this is going to be tested to some extent with 06 Bordeauxs and to a much greater extent with 07s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 (edited) I think I would have kept my mouth shut too. I'm slowly learning that no matter what the general vintage is like, there are always a few winemakers who can make amazing wines from a poor vintage. I think this is going to be tested to some extent with 06 Bordeauxs and to a much greater extent with 07s. This is certainly true in many parts of the world but several parts of France can really be pretty fickle. Not that the wines will suck in bad years but that you have to convince yourself that they're better than they really are when you drink them. After all, DRC from a bad year is still going to cost $200 a bottle and it's not likely to be much better than, say a Girardin from a good year that costs half the price or less. I remember when I used to get Kermit Lynch's mailer back in the early 90s. I think it was 87 but it was rather poor year in Hermitage and he was trying to convince everyone that they should still buy Chave. "This may not be as stellar as other Chave wines, but just drink it with hamburgers." I remember thinking, "That's great, but it still costs $40". Which, of course, was a lot more for a Rhone wine then than it is now. I mean 89 Beaucastel was $30 when it came out back then. All that said, you are correct and, especially for my needs at the restaurant where I don't have the luxury of putting things down for a while, off years can be a better fit. Edited November 20, 2007 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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