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Saw this on KFFL....outrageous. Good news for visitors, as I doubt any real diehard fans are also multi-millionaires able to afford this

 

Cowboys | Ticket options announced for new stadium

Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:10:43 -0800

 

Andrea Ahles and Sally Claunch, of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, reports the Dallas Cowboys have announced ticket option fees for their new stadium, which is expected to be ready for the 2009 season. Tickets will cost $340 per game for lower bowl seating. Ticketholders will also have to purchase a personal seat license. About half of the 15,000 club seats will have a PSL costing $16,000 per seat, with the remainder costing more depending on the seat's location. A 30-year financing option will be available for the PSL with an interest rate of about eight percent. The team has not determined how much tickets will cost for the rest of the stadium. The majority of those will have personal seat licenses.

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DEN did this when they built Invesco. Ticket prices went up a ton and they priced out a lot of the common Joes who had held season tickets for a long, long time.

 

Going to a Bronco game is downright tame compared to what it used to be. The stands are filled with pinky-raising wine drinkers instead of the rowdy orange-to-the-core beer drinkers, and IMNSHO it has affected their home field advantage a huge amount.

 

DAL had better be prepared for the worst with this kind of decision.

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It really is a sad state of affairs when ticket prices are through the roof, and drunken buffoonery is at an all time high. Hmm.. maybe with rising ticket prices, the hooligans are priced out. Or maybe it makes them feel more entitled?

 

Why on earth would I want to take my little kids to a live NFL game?

 

I'll stick to small time sports events. They're more intimate anyway.

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Actually the sad state of affairs is all the people stupid enough to pay such ridiculous prices for seats. Simple supply and demand; long as those people are around and tickets are selling, prices aren't exactly about to come down.

I wonder where the ceiling is? I mean, the NFL is probably the worlds best TV sport. I'd rather watch the games on TV than go to one. Especially considering the two things I mentioned earlier. Price and buffoonery.

 

I guess the rocket-ship of NFL popularity is just pushing demand into the stratosphere. The future is a stadium filled with empty corporate seats and lottery winners. And in Dallas, 3rd mortgages.

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It really is a sad state of affairs when ticket prices are through the roof, and drunken buffoonery is at an all time high. Hmm.. maybe with rising ticket prices, the hooligans are priced out. Or maybe it makes them feel more entitled?

 

Why on earth would I want to take my little kids to a live NFL game?

 

I'll stick to small time sports events. They're more intimate anyway.

an NFL game is no place for a child....there were some at FedEx when we went 2 weeks ago and my wife said "I can't believe how people act with kids around" and i do agree that watching a game on TV is the best way to watch it(especially with DVR now and being able to play replay official)

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an NFL game is no place for a child....there were some at FedEx when we went 2 weeks ago and my wife said "I can't believe how people act with kids around" and i do agree that watching a game on TV is the best way to watch it(especially with DVR now and being able to play replay official)

I read your post about your experience at FedEx. Your experience was very familiar. I've read a few other accounts just like it. My own experiences at Qualcomm, Soldier Field, etc, as a single guy were very similar.

 

No way are the kids going.

 

On that note, I'm going to the Edward Jones Dome in St. Louis for the Rams Packers game. So, we'll see how thing play out there when I walk in with jersey and cheesehead. Somehow, I don't think they're going to be as rowdy as most. Call me crazy. :D

 

And, DVR is a godsend for football nutcases like us. With two minute commercial breaks it's 4 punches of the jump ahead 30 seconds button if you're on DirecTV DVR. Love that.

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I can understand it in a way. In football you only get 8 regular season home games to pay for a stadium. In basketball you have 5 times that many, and in baseball you have 10 times that many. They have to pay for these stadiums somehow.

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How much for playoff tickets?

 

Packers mailed out invoices for playoff tickets today to season ticket holders. Need to pay by Dec. 5th if you want them. $108 for a wild card or divisonal game. $148 for the NFC championship game. Tickets are first offered to Green Bay season ticket holders then if there are any left to Milwaukee ticket holders and if there are any left after that to the general public.

 

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/p.../711160614/1207

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I can understand it in a way. In football you only get 8 regular season home games to pay for a stadium. In basketball you have 5 times that many, and in baseball you have 10 times that many. They have to get the fans to pay for these stadiums somehow.

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I can understand it in a way. In football you only get 8 regular season home games and 2 preseason games with full price tickets that season ticket holders have to purchase alsoto pay for a stadium. In basketball you have 5 times that many, and in baseball you have 10 times that many, but football fills 60,000 to 70,000 seat stadiums every game, unlike baseball or basketball, and also have a hard cap unlike those sports. They have to pay for these stadiums somehow.

 

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My family has had Cowboys season tickets since the Cotton Bowl days and the prices go up EVERY year. Just in recent history I've seen them go from $68 to $128 each. A couple days before the payment deadline, my grandmother gets threatening calls from the Cowboys telling her that if she's 1 day late on her payment she'll lose the seats.

 

We own the rights to our seats at Texas Stadium & I'm VERY afraid of what Jerry will put us through when we move to the new stadium. Might be time to start baiting some hooks.

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Well that goes with out saying. It is a business after all.

true but look at the value of these teams, without even looking at anything do you think cutting ticket prices in half would really even make them blink?

 

anyone know what an average price is for an NFL game and the average number of seats/stadium?

 

and the added money that these teams makes also goes to paying salaries....if their ticket intake was less maybe the salary cap would be smaller and then players salaries wouldnt be so high...in the end what it comes down to is how much can we squeeze out of the public for tickets because if they could only get 50% of what they are getting now the NFL would still exist and the product we are seeing would be no different

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It would be interesting to see what percentage of total revenue ticket sales are for each sport. I'd be willing to bet that ticket sales as a percentage of total revenue are lower in football than in baseball and in basketball. It really doesn't matter though. It's still supply and demand. As long as they are putting asses in seats, they can and will keep raising ticket prices.

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I can understand it in a way. In football you only get 8 regular season home games to pay for a stadium. In basketball you have 5 times that many, and in baseball you have 10 times that many. They have to pay for these stadiums somehow.

also an nfl team probably draws in the neighborhood of 600,000-750,000 fans per year to its 10 home games...in baseball the average about 2.7 million fans/yr/team thats just about 1:5 do baseball tickets cost 1/5 of a football ticket? what about the PSL(do baseball teams charge PSLs now too)?

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It would be interesting to see what percentage of total revenue ticket sales are for each sport. I'd be willing to bet that ticket sales as a percentage of total revenue are lower in football than in baseball and in basketball.

 

I'd lose that bet if I made it. The TV revenue in football is astronomical, and way above and beyond what the other two sports even dream of ever having.

 

 

It really doesn't matter though. It's still supply and demand. As long as they are putting asses in seats, they can and will keep raising ticket prices.

 

I couldn't agree with you more here. PT Barnum is proven correct yet again.

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I'd lose that bet if I made it. The TV revenue in football is astronomical, and way above and beyond what the other two sports even dream of ever having.

I couldn't agree with you more here. PT Barnum is proven correct yet again.

MLB makes around 340 mill in TV revenue for the league...in the NFL the average is around 2.4 billion(75mill/TEAM)

 

http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/12/22/...1222nflmvp.html

and this article is from 06

The league's current television package with News Corp.'s (nyse: NWS - news - people ) Fox, Walt Disney Co.'s (nyse: DIS - news - people ) ABC/ESPN, and CBS (nyse: CBS - news - people ) brings in over $2 billion a year, or about $75 million per team

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I couldn't agree with you more here. PT Barnum is proven correct yet again.

 

I won't even get the Sunday Ticket anymore. The wife and I decided that it makes more sense to just go out to the bar to watch the Colts when they're not on national TV or our local CBS affiliate... and we get to spend the $220 saved on food and microbrews there.

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It would be interesting to see what percentage of total revenue ticket sales are for each sport. I'd be willing to bet that ticket sales as a percentage of total revenue are lower in football than in baseball and in basketball. It really doesn't matter though. It's still supply and demand. As long as they are putting asses in seats, they can and will keep raising ticket prices.

 

The NFL could play their games in TV studios with no live audience and the 32 franchises would still make money.

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It really doesn't matter though. It's still supply and demand. As long as they are putting asses in seats, they can and will keep raising ticket prices.

This is exactly the point. The NFL doesn't care two hoots who is sitting in a particular seat (long time season ticket guy or brand new corporate Hooray Henry) as long as the ticket is sold. Likewise the team owners. And if they can't fill the stadium, they'll pull up sticks and go to a new market. The NFL has mastered the art of maximizing it's income and cares about it's regular fans not one iota. Some of those fans have yet to realize this.

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The NFL has mastered the art of maximizing it's income and cares about it's regular fans not one iota.

I think the NFL cares about their fans a great deal, but ticket pricing has very little to do with whether they care of not. There are just a lot of fans willing to pay those absurd amounts for tickets. They sell out all over the country. I wonder what their stats are for sell outs? :D

 

I'm VERY curious to see how that new Cowboys stadium does with those prices.

 

If the NFL wasn't such a great TV product, maybe this would all be different. It wouldn't be as popular and maybe they'd have to worry more about keeping the stadiums filled.

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