billay Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I commish my local league and I have been looking at tinkering with how I seed teams in the playoffs. We are a 12 team league with 6 teams making the playoffs, 3 division champs and 3 wildcards (best 3 records) The top 2 division champs receive a first round bye. In the past I have used the following logic: that the best division champ out not have to be paired with the 3rd division champ in their bracket and the 3rd division champ ought not to have to play the best wildcard. Seems logical right? That way, DC1 plays the winner of the WC1 vs. WC2 game and DC2 plays the winner of the DC3 vs. WC3 game. With a few exceptions, this format has worked out ok over the years. This year, however, that doesn;t look like it is going to be the case. One division is putrid, and the other 2 divions house, far and away, the top 4 teams in the league. It is possible that the best team will end up in the WC1 spot, which would really suck for DC1. If I won my division and had the best record in the league had to play the league powerhouse in my first playoff game, I'd be pissed. I know that some leagues reseed for the playoffs based upon certain criteria, and others probably establish position by means other than winners of divisions and best records. So what does your league do? Is this just a fluke of this year? Is the logic sound and we ride it out? Or is there a more fair way to handle it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd so no brackets? Edited November 23, 2007 by billay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 so no brackets? Correct. The NFL doesn't do brackets either. The top seed plays the worst remaining seed after the first round in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasface Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 (edited) 16 teams 8 playoff teams 2 divisions.... top 2 teams in each division (4) (division winners get a bye) next 2 teams with the best record (2) next 2 teams with the highest average (2) Edited November 23, 2007 by gasface Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Smales Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd Same way here. Reseeding always lets the top team get the worst of what's left. Just like the NFL and IMO the fairest way to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd This is what we do also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Same way here. Reseeding always lets the top team get the worst of what's left. Just like the NFL and IMO the fairest way to do it. This is the best way to go. Takes some of the fun out of the release of the bracket, but also takes out the chance that "the real superbowl" is held in an earlier round of the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumpNRun Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd Same here..it is the best way to go...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 so no brackets? No brackets..Worst seed to win in the wildcard round plays the 1 2nd worst plays the 2.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Same here..it is the best way to go...... Not necessarily...its all preference. We like to do it like the pros, with two "conferences". Two conferences of six teams. Winner of each conference earns a bye. #2 plays #3 in Round 1. Winner plays confrence champ for right to represent conference in Super Bowl. We try to keep it as realistic as we can to the pros. Under the other "re-seed" options listed above, two teams from the same division could end up facing each other in the Super Bowl, which to our league makes no sense in trying to make FF as realisitc as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelhead Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 12 team division league. 3 division winners and 3 wildcards. top 2 division winners get 1st rd byes 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5 then we reseed. No brackets. The #1 seed gets a +4 "home field advantage" in the 2nd rd, and the #2 seed gets a +2 advantage. This has worked well in our league. It mimics a home field advantage as we try to mimic the NFL as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Not necessarily...its all preference. We like to do it like the pros, with two "conferences". Two conferences of six teams. Winner of each conference earns a bye. #2 plays #3 in Round 1. Winner plays confrence champ for right to represent conference in Super Bowl. We try to keep it as realistic as we can to the pros. Under the other "re-seed" options listed above, two teams from the same division could end up facing each other in the Super Bowl, which to our league makes no sense in trying to make FF as realisitc as possible. You could be giving a bye to a winner of a conference that is weak though..That conference winner might have a worse record then the runner up in the other conference.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 One division is putrid, and the other 2 divions house, far and away, the top 4 teams in the league. Exactly why 12 team lgs should have 2 divisions, not 3. I would also go top 2 div winners and 2 WCs (half the teams making it sound stupid in an NHL kind way) but just IMO. For your situation, I wouldn't change just because of one year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyb7 Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 10 teams, 2 divisions. winner of each division is in.....next 4 teams by points, regardless of record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) I commish my local league and I have been looking at tinkering with how I seed teams in the playoffs. We are a 12 team league with 6 teams making the playoffs, 3 division champs and 3 wildcards (best 3 records) The top 2 division champs receive a first round bye. In the past I have used the following logic: that the best division champ out not have to be paired with the 3rd division champ in their bracket and the 3rd division champ ought not to have to play the best wildcard. Seems logical right? That way, DC1 plays the winner of the WC1 vs. WC2 game and DC2 plays the winner of the DC3 vs. WC3 game. With a few exceptions, this format has worked out ok over the years. This year, however, that doesn;t look like it is going to be the case. One division is putrid, and the other 2 divions house, far and away, the top 4 teams in the league. It is possible that the best team will end up in the WC1 spot, which would really suck for DC1. If I won my division and had the best record in the league had to play the league powerhouse in my first playoff game, I'd be pissed. I know that some leagues reseed for the playoffs based upon certain criteria, and others probably establish position by means other than winners of divisions and best records. So what does your league do? Is this just a fluke of this year? Is the logic sound and we ride it out? Or is there a more fair way to handle it? i would say that you should run it like you have if that has worked....i dont think you can or should re-tool it for this yr just because the matchup will suck we have 2 conferences with 4 team divisions.....2 div winners and 1 WC from each conf make the playoffs....one div winner(best record) from each conf gets a bye. edit: and we give the home team(better record) a .5 advantage in case of a tie Edited November 24, 2007 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonedaddies Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 (edited) 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd Same here..it is the best way to go...... First of all if you have not "set" your seeding for this year, i would think you would want to take a league vote as this could piss off a few owners that end up with a bad matchup. We do the same format as above and it has worked out well. One thing that I have found is that the W3 (6 seed) many years is the hottest team going into the playoffs, beats D3 (3 seed) which is usually a team in the worst division, only in due to a weak division!! W3 faces D1 and D2 winner gets a better matchup. We have looked at changing, but have not found a fair solution that aligns with the NFL format. We also do a toilet bowl for the bottom 6 for a few bucks, it tends to keep the 2-8 teams a bit more focused down the stretch, same seeds as the big money side. Edited November 24, 2007 by Bonedaddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 IN CBFL the last seed(of 6) is the highest remaining points scorer. It helps unlucky teams get in. Otherwise 2 byes and 3 WC's play 3rd seed like the other leagues mentioned, Some like this some don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 My local: 12 teams 8 keepers (used to be 10 keepers) 3 divisions 8 teams make the playoffs The other 4 teams are in the toilet bowl and the picks for the following draft are already determined for the toilet bowl teams. The playoff bound teams draft is based on playoff results. Division winners get the top three seeds. The rest is based on record and then head-to-head and then total points. It keeps all teams active until the end. We also play a double-header in the final week which greatly affects the standings. In many years, the eighth seed ends up beating the one seed. The eight seed ends up getting hot at the end and keeps on going. In seven years, the eight seed has won the league twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 You could be giving a bye to a winner of a conference that is weak though..That conference winner might have a worse record then the runner up in the other conference.. Which is kinda like the NFL....happens all the time. For argument sake, suppose the Pats had lost a few games this year....theoretically, both the Packers and Cowboys could enter the playoffs with a better record than the winner of the other AFC. So what? And just like the NFL, we keep our conferences the same every year, so the ebb and flow of which conference is better changes from year to year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind Dancer Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 Top FOUR teams are in championship Middler FOUR are in consolation bowl Bottom FOUR teams are in toilet bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 if there are 3 divisions, we have 3 division winners who make it and one WC team... if it's 2 divisions, it's the 2 division winners and the 2 next best teams regardless which division they are in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 6 teams make it Top 2 get byes 3 plays 6 4 plays 5 Then we re seed after the wildcard rd Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted November 24, 2007 Author Share Posted November 24, 2007 First of all if you have not "set" your seeding for this year, i would think you would want to take a league vote as this could piss off a few owners that end up with a bad matchup. We do the same format as above and it has worked out well. One thing that I have found is that the W3 (6 seed) many years is the hottest team going into the playoffs, beats D3 (3 seed) which is usually a team in the worst division, only in due to a weak division!! W3 faces D1 and D2 winner gets a better matchup. We have looked at changing, but have not found a fair solution that aligns with the NFL format. I would definately put it up for a vote. This is the main problem that we have had in the past, that the DC2 gets a more favorable matchup than than DC1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 My local is a 12 team league. 2 conferences. 2 divisions per conference (4 divisions total, 3 teams each). Each division winner is in the playoffs. There are then two wildcards that go to the top team in each conference that did not win their division. This is a lot of fun, because it allows for both small scale rivalry (division) and larger scale (conference). The top team in the conference gets a bye in the first week of the playoffs. The other division winner plays the wildcard team from their conference. I like this layout a lot. The only change I would like to make is to have set divisions rather than redrawing them every season, which we do for fairness I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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