zmanzzzz Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Scott was assessed two 15-yard fouls following the winning touchdown, one of which came when he picked up a penalty flag and heaved it into the stands. He was so upset after the game that he could barely speak. Cornerback Samari Rolle contended that one game official had used a demeaning term in addressing him, and claimed he planned to contact his attorney about it. Biting off his words in a curt interview session, Billick agreed that “evidently” a few calls went against his upset-minded team. If this is the case - that Bart Scott and Samari Rolle were addressed using demeaning terms - then those officials should be fined and suspended without pay. As for Scott, I will give him this: I’ve never seen a player throw a flag as hard as he did. When he hangs ‘em up after his Pro Bowl career, I’d suggest he picks up either a baseball or a javelin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 It was a terrible meltdown that never should have happened. I would very much like to know what the "demeaning" term used might have been. I say Billick was right when he said something like you can't be a stupid football player. That is demeaning but it is the truth. Scott was pretty stupid when he did what he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skylive5 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I would very much like to know what the "demeaning" term used might have been. Probably called him a "Football Player". As in: "You football player's sure know how to melt-down." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Rolle said the ref's language was the reason Bart Scott exploded like Mt. Ravenus late in the game, amazingly accounting for 30 penalty yards for his actions, which included the bullet pass of an official's yellow flag. "We got the ref in one of our players' faces and call him a 'boy,'" Scott said. "What's that all about?" From what Ive heard on espn he did it about 5 times. Edited December 4, 2007 by xtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharger Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Rolle said the Ref called him "Boy". If the Ref were white I think he'd have a case but the Ref they were jawing with was black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Rolle said the Ref called him "Boy". If the Ref were white I think he'd have a case but the Ref they were jawing with was black. If that's true, it wouldn't surprise me. Refs are complete jacka$$es at times. The ump who baited Milton Bradley into a fight is another example. That said, people like Scott and Bradley need to keep their cool during the game. They can report the refs to the league after the final whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Rolle said the Ref called him "Boy". If the Ref were white I think he'd have a case but the Ref they were jawing with was black. Mike & Mike were talking about it this morning & said that Rolle claimed it wasn't just one time. He said the ref spoke to him in a derogatory manner and repeatedly called him "boy." Pretty unprofessional if you ask me, but who knows what Rolle may or may not have done to entice it. However, in the game of football it is very commonplace for players to talk trash and it's pretty much considered part of the game. The refs should never get involved with that & should be held to a much higher standard than the players themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Rolle said the Ref called him "Boy". If the Ref were white I think he'd have a case but the Ref they were jawing with was black. well then everthing's peachy keen. Nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 The refs should never get involved with that & should be held to a much higher standard than the players themselves. I absolutely agree. They're there to MANAGE the game, not to be a contributing factor in its outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalking_Eagle Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I was at the game 6 rows from the field right in the endzone the Pats scored the final TD in and the refs were totally instigating the players last night. As a fan, I wanted to assult a zebra last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Rolle said the Ref called him "Boy". If the Ref were white I think he'd have a case but the Ref they were jawing with was black. The ref will probably have to go on Oprah to apologize and explain that while it's not a proper term for whites to use, within his culture, it's better than calling someon a "Raven" ... Even so, if you're a professional athlete and you jeopardize your team's chances of pulling off a HUGE upset because a ref spoke impolitely to you, then you are a complete and total embarassment ... Scott should shut up and apologize for losing control of his emotions and hurting his team. As for the ref? If he's jawing with players, I'd think a fine would be in order. Just focus on giving games to the steeeelers like we asked you to and stop it with the conversation on the field. Edited December 5, 2007 by Donutrun Jellies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Another fine example of an immature American letting stupid words get the best of him. Come on Bart ... a little self control ... be a man not a boy. Having said that ... I see no reason that the ref.s should be having ANY conversation with the players ... let alone confrontational language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zmanzzzz Posted December 5, 2007 Author Share Posted December 5, 2007 Another fine example of an immature American letting stupid words get the best of him. Come on Bart ... a little self control ... be a man not a boy. Having said that ... I see no reason that the ref.s should be having ANY conversation with the players ... let alone confrontational language. and how should message bored posters behave, boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha-z Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) It's easy for us to critisize him for what he did, and I'm not saying it's justified on his part, but have any of you ever played at this level of emotion?? I'm not talking about your local dart league here. This was a huge game and these guys throw it all on the line every game. Emotions are high, as you could tell after he realized what he had done. Again, I don't justify what he did, but these guys are playing way above anything that you or I can feel IMO. Edited December 5, 2007 by Piranha-z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Was it Kenny Lofton who got jawed at by a first-base umpire so much this postseason that he had to call a time out and give him a "what the frick"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 im sure some of the meltdown had partly to do with that final drive all together. they had chance after chance and essentially got a win ripped right from them multiple times. its nobody's fault but their own, but all that frustration had to boil up. from the timeout, to the holding call, to the final td.. when you have a team playing what they admitted was their super bowl and lose like that, something is going to happen. the ref was wrong though in taunting him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Another fine example of an immature American letting stupid words get the best of him. Relative to all those foreign NFL players that seem to operate at a higher mental capacity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 If the ravens D wouldn't have mugged the WR's the ref wouldn't have to thrown the flag in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) It's easy for us to critisize him for what he did, and I'm not saying it's justified on his part, but have any of you ever played at this level of emotion?? I'm not talking about your local dart league here. This was a huge game and these guys throw it all on the line every game. Emotions are high, as you could tell after he realized what he had done. Again, I don't justify what he did, but these guys are playing way above anything that you or I can feel IMO. You give them WAY too much credit for competing in the NFL. Competition is competition. I don't care if your in a dart league, high school, college, etc. A crybaby punk boy, is a crybaby punk BOY. I'm sick of these "elite" athletes having a diva complex. Respect the authority. Which I'm guessing alot of these guys have never had to do. Edited December 5, 2007 by millerx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) I dont care what race anyone is,theres no reason to call anyone boy unless you are their parent.If he didnt have stripes on he would have been knocked on his ass. The refs are there to make sure the game is legal and that is it.Anything else is none of their business.If they want to mouth off and talk down to someone maybe they should find another job or grow a set and keep that flag in their pocket. Edited December 5, 2007 by xtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShiznit Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 If the ravens D wouldn't have mugged the WR's the ref wouldn't have to thrown the flag in the first place. Mugged??? Were you even watching the game? The guy reached out and touched someone...he didn't mug him. Holding....HARDLY. Receivers are pu$$lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 It's easy for us to critisize him for what he did, and I'm not saying it's justified on his part, but have any of you ever played at this level of emotion?? I'm not talking about your local dart league here. This was a huge game and these guys throw it all on the line every game. Emotions are high, as you could tell after he realized what he had done. Again, I don't justify what he did, but these guys are playing way above anything that you or I can feel IMO. Sorry. A man doesn't throw a tantrum, no matter what the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gros Membres! Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Sorry. A man doesn't throw a tantrum, no matter what the situation. Have you ever been pissed off by the outcome of a sporting event? I mean seriously pissed. Like a "Steve Smith, what the f***, you cost me my season" sort of pissed. I'd say multiply that by millions (of dollars) and we're getting to the level. Sure, sure, no man is "supposed" to throw a tantrum but the guy is obviously a competitor and the penalties actually played to the Ravens favor as they pretty much guaranteed a touchback and no time expiring from the clock on the Ravens final possession. All that being said, is "boy" really that derogatory? "You boys need to stop holding those receivers" etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesMarauders Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Mugged??? Were you even watching the game? The guy reached out and touched someone...he didn't mug him. Holding....HARDLY. Receivers are pu$$lies. ?? Did you even watch the game? Moss got tackled on one and the other Watson was held. The guy had his whole arm around him. I think you need to watch the reply again Edited December 5, 2007 by MikesMarauders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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