wildcat2334 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 So Favre over Romo ? Its certainly can make sense but I disagree..When pressured he chucks..Grant could possibly carry him to a ring though like Terrel Davis did for Elway..One never knows well, in a 1 game playoff scenario I like Hasselbeck over Romo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 well, in a 1 game playoff scenario I like Hasselbeck over Romo Is this based on last years playoff game ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Imagine... two 18-1 teams after the SB ... Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberia Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 The Pats will probably kick their azz just like they did in Dallas earlier in the year. The real storyline for the NFL has go to be the Dolphins. They are SO close. I'm really worried about Baltimore though. I think it's gonna be a really great game next Sunday, maybe instant classic worthy. Just think if Miami goes 0-16 they can all get together and drink champagne every time the last winless team gets their first win of the season. Maybe they can join up with that 1970's Dolphins team that does their champagne thing every time the last undefeated team loses. I hope Baltimore's defense is up to the challenge. Then the next week at NE, spread should be -42. Then Cinci back at Miami. I think the Miami fans will help them rally to 0-16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Imagine... two 18-1 teams after the SB ... Nice! 17-1 and 16-2 after the conference championships is more appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Look, Ryan Grant has played well so far this year but can we stop with the comparisons to Terell Freakin Davis already??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Is this based on last years playoff game ? naw- I will just take the vet Hass, who is playing as well as anyone since Homlgren opened up the passing game. Romo is great, I like the kid, I just think the playoffs is another matter I just don't think we will see a Dall vs NE SB- an upset will happen at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) Look, Ryan Grant has played well so far this year but can we stop with the comparisons to Terell Freakin Davis already??? I was just fishing for Bronco Billy..It was more of a jab at Elway..he didnt bite.. Edited December 10, 2007 by whomper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I was just fishing for Bronco Billy..It was more of a jab at Elway..he didnt bite.. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I was just fishing for Bronco Billy..It was more of a jab at Elway..he didnt bite.. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 I was just fishing for Bronco Billy..It was more of a jab at Elway..he didnt bite.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Wiggy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 And at the 2 best QBs in the game. The torch hasn't been passed yet in either conference as far as I can see. Please elaborate - because if you're saying that Manning is still top dog in th AFC, I'd like to hear why. Super Bowls are 3-1 and Manning's TD record will probably fall by halftime on Sunday. What would you like Brady to do to pass Manning in your eyes? Should he do more commercials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 (edited) Please elaborate - because if you're saying that Manning is still top dog in th AFC, I'd like to hear why. Super Bowls are 3-1 and Manning's TD record will probably fall by halftime on Sunday. What would you like Brady to do to pass Manning in your eyes? Should he do more commercials? Call all of his own plays at the line, perhaps? Brady has the physical tools - no question. But he hasn't shown - in my mind - that he controls and understands the game like Manning does. That's not a knock on Brady - Manning is a throw-back to the days when coaches would trust QBs enough to call their own plays based upon the QB's perception on the field, and Manning does an incredible job given the complexities of the game. Not saying Brady couldn't do it given the chance, either, but I don't know if I've ever seen a QB who can dissect a D the way Manning does without the additional help of the coaching staff sending in information. The guy is uncanny at understanding what a D is giving immediately prior to the snap of the ball and making adjustments on the fly at the LoS. Oh - and Marino didn't win any SBs and he was a better QB than Brady currently is. SB record speaks for team success, not specifically individual QB success. Edited December 10, 2007 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Call all of his own plays at the line, perhaps? Brady has the physical tools - no question. But he hasn't shown - in my mind - that he controls and understands the game like Manning does. That's not a knock on Brady - Manning is a throw-back to the days when coaches would trust QBs enough to call their own plays based upon the QB's perception on the field, and Manning does an incredible job given the complexities of the game. Not saying Brady couldn't do it given the chance, either, but I don't know if I've ever seen a QB who can dissect a D the way Manning does without the additional help of the coaching staff sending in information. The guy is uncanny at understanding what a D is giving immediately prior to the snap of the ball and making adjustments on the fly at the LoS. Oh - and Marino didn't win any SBs and he was a better QB than Brady currently is. SB record speaks for team success, not specifically individual QB success. These comparisons make no sense. The players were all in different situations, and there's really no way to judge how the different players would have succeeded in the other's situation. I agree 100% with your points on Manning dissecting a defense, but as you say about teams winning SBs, teams execute offense. Manning has had top WRs, RBs, good to great TEs and at worst a very good offensive line. Brady and Marino share some similarity in that both players pretty much carried their team's offense for good parts of their career. The main difference being that Brady had some D to back him up, where as Marino never really had a great D to work with past his early career. I just think they are different players and all deserve respect as top players. trying to decide who is the 'best' is just too subjective IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Wiggy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Call all of his own plays at the line, perhaps? Brady has the physical tools - no question. But he hasn't shown - in my mind - that he controls and understands the game like Manning does. That's not a knock on Brady - Manning is a throw-back to the days when coaches would trust QBs enough to call their own plays based upon the QB's perception on the field, and Manning does an incredible job given the complexities of the game. Not saying Brady couldn't do it given the chance, either, but I don't know if I've ever seen a QB who can dissect a D the way Manning does without the additional help of the coaching staff sending in information. The guy is uncanny at understanding what a D is giving immediately prior to the snap of the ball and making adjustments on the fly at the LoS. Oh - and Marino didn't win any SBs and he was a better QB than Brady currently is. SB record speaks for team success, not specifically individual QB success. Fair enough. I agree that Manning is his own offensive coordinator and does a masterful job running the offense and reading defenses. I take nothing away from Manning - he is completely deserving of all the accolades he has received. But I will also argue that Manning has been surrounded by much better talent on the offensive side of the ball. He's had Faulk, Edge and Addai as his RBs and Harrison as his #1 WR for his entire career. Brady has won more SBs with a rotating cast of relative unknowns (with the exception of Corey Dillon in his last productive year). Has he even had the same leading WR in back to back years (too lazy to look it up right now)? Now that he has the weapons, he's showing everyone what he's capable of. He can put up the same #s if not better than Manning. As for Marino, I'm not sure how to argue that. Most Marino detractors argue that it's about rings. His supporters argue that it's about #s. Brady's got more rings. And this year when he finally has top notch weapons along the same lines as say Duper and Clayton, he's going to top Marino's #s. You can argue that Marino did it his whole career and Brady has only done it for 1 year. I can't disagree with that - I guess we'll just have to wait and see how Brady's career (and Manning's for that matter) finishes before we can assess where they fit in the big picture. It's just my opinion that Brady will go down as the best QB of all time when he's all done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF409ers Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 It's just my opinion that Brady will go down as the best QB of all time when he's all done. He may be mentioned in the Top 5, but undisputed #1 of all time, not IMO - Of course I do come with a SF bias Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Wiggy Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 He may be mentioned in the Top 5, but undisputed #1 of all time, not IMO - Of course I do come with a SF bias I agree that Brady is currently behind Steve Young on the all time list. That's why it's just my opinion. Right now, I would agree with you that Montana is the greatest of all time. I'd just happen to believe by the time Brady retires, he will be considered by many if not most to be the greatest. We'll just have to re-open this post in 8-10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 We'll just have to re-open this post in 8-10 years. If we are not all dead in 8-10 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 These comparisons make no sense. The players were all in different situations, and there's really no way to judge how the different players would have succeeded in the other's situation. +1 There alot of under rated QBs that will never be mentioned ,but put in the same situations of the mentioned may have accomplished the same or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 The Pats will probably kick their azz just like they did in Dallas earlier in the year. The real storyline for the NFL has go to be the Dolphins. They are SO close. I'm really worried about Baltimore though. I think it's gonna be a really great game next Sunday, maybe instant classic worthy. Just think if Miami goes 0-16 they can all get together and drink champagne every time the last winless team gets their first win of the season. Maybe they can join up with that 1970's Dolphins team that does their champagne thing every time the last undefeated team loses. I hope Baltimore's defense is up to the challenge. Then the next week at NE, spread should be -42. Then Cinci back at Miami. I think the Miami fans will help them rally to 0-16. OMG. One of the funniest posts I have read in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Look, Ryan Grant has played well so far this year but can we stop with the comparisons to Terell Freakin Davis already??? One of the announcers for the Packers game yesterday quoted some coach (can't remember who) comparing him to Marcus Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinatown dragons Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 QUOTE(Patriots @ 12/10/07 10:59am) If the Pats are 17-1 or 18-0 and the cowboys are 17-1 or 16-2. Plus it would be the best two QBs in the league. Thoughts? Is Peyton Manning getting traded to the Cowboys or Patriots ? This season, Brady and Romo are the best 2 QB's in the league....Manning is a GREAT QB, but based on current year's stats, Romo is having better season....3,654 passing yards, 35 tds, 107.7 passing rate for Romo; 3,358, 27 tds and 97 passing rate for Manning.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 i'd vomit and probably throw myself into traffic if that super bowl happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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