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Roy Williams suspended one game


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Though I agree the incident warranted a penalty, and perhaps even an ejection, and definitely a fine, I question whether a suspension is warranted. That' s a tough pill, and a precendent-setting measure. Suppose a player is going all-out, using every ounce of energy in his body to make a play, and he dives to make a tackle and inadvertantly latches onto the back of a jersey. Is he suspended?

 

Perhaps it has something to do with William's history....and the fact that he was the cause of the rule in the first place.

 

Just seems a tough for a team trying to secure home-field advantage that is in must-win mode. But I guess penalties are meant to be harsh.

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As a Dallas fan, I think it was about time.

 

I am sick of watching him take them down from the back side.

 

ROY eat some wheaties and catch up to them PLEASE.

 

YOUR jersey is not being worn anymore by my KIDS.

 

SHOW up and save me some money PLEASE!

 

Cowboy spamshirts are very expensive.

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Does he not know the rule is there because of him?

 

he has already been fined a couple times this year for a horse collar tackle which is why they took it to the next level. His problem is that he is a safety and therefore often finds himself chasing down a player. It's not like he has dirty late hits or anything. He just naturally tries to grab guys from behind and ends up holding onto the shoulder pad.

 

What I don't understand is why is a horse-collar tackle illegal and yet cut blocking a guy at the knees is okay? Seems inconsistent to me.

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he has already been fined a couple times this year for a horse collar tackle which is why they took it to the next level. His problem is that he is a safety and therefore often finds himself chasing down a player. It's not like he has dirty late hits or anything. He just naturally tries to grab guys from behind and ends up holding onto the shoulder pad.

 

And what part of the league and his coaches saying "DON'T DO THAT" doesn't he understand?

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And what part of the league and his coaches saying "DON'T DO THAT" doesn't he understand?

 

You got me. Evidently it's something he just cannot stop. Maybe he needs to enroll in rehab or something.

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:D

 

Though I agree the incident warranted a penalty, and perhaps even an ejection, and definitely a fine, I question whether a suspension is warranted. That' s a tough pill, and a precendent-setting measure. Suppose a player is going all-out, using every ounce of energy in his body to make a play, and he dives to make a tackle and inadvertantly latches onto the back of a jersey. Is he suspended?

 

Perhaps it has something to do with William's history....and the fact that he was the cause of the rule in the first place.

 

Just seems a tough for a team trying to secure home-field advantage that is in must-win mode. But I guess penalties are meant to be harsh.

While the 1 game may seem harsh, what if a play like that breaks McNabb's leg and he misses the rest of this season plus who knows how much longer? It is an extremely dangerous play and (at least in the case of yesterday) unnecessary. If you're close enough to grab someone by the back of the collar like that, you're close enough to wrap his legs and bring him down IMO. I am sure the reason Williams goes for the collar is because he can pull the upper body back and limit how far the player can advance the ball. Hower, it is proven this is too dangerous a play to make and RW of all people should know that by now.

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You got me. Evidently it's something he just cannot stop. Maybe he needs to enroll in rehab or something.

 

I don't get why T.O. doesn't pull him aside and say "Dude, you broke my ankle doing that. . . .remember??"

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:D

 

Though I agree the incident warranted a penalty, and perhaps even an ejection, and definitely a fine, I question whether a suspension is warranted. That' s a tough pill, and a precendent-setting measure. Suppose a player is going all-out, using every ounce of energy in his body to make a play, and he dives to make a tackle and inadvertantly latches onto the back of a jersey. Is he suspended?

 

Perhaps it has something to do with William's history....and the fact that he was the cause of the rule in the first place.

Just seems a tough for a team trying to secure home-field advantage that is in must-win mode. But I guess penalties are meant to be harsh.

 

Perhaps? Without a doubt it's because of those things. The league just won't go around suspending every player for doing it the first or even second time. But they will do it to players, like Williams, who have done it more times than I can count, those who hurt players doing it and those who continue to do it. It's a tough penalty for a guy unwilling to play by the rules. I know the 2 aren't the same but players are suspended for taking steroids which give them an unfair advantage and are illegal. Williams has been suspended for continued horse-collar tackling which are dangerous and illegal.

 

Good move by the NFL and I'm a Cowboy Fan. :D

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While the 1 game may seem harsh, what if a play like that breaks McNabb's leg and he misses the rest of this season plus who knows how much longer? It is an extremely dangerous play and (at least in the case of yesterday) unnecessary. If you're close enough to grab someone by the back of the collar like that, you're close enough to wrap his legs and bring him down IMO. I am sure the reason Williams goes for the collar is because he can pull the upper body back and limit how far the player can advance the ball. Hower, it is proven this is too dangerous a play to make and RW of all people should know that by now.

 

So you are advocating that any time a player is hurt the player inflicting the injury should be suspended? Football is a physical game. Either play physical or put flags on them and play flag football.

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So you are advocating that any time a player is hurt the player inflicting the injury should be suspended? Football is a physical game. Either play physical or put flags on them and play flag football.

No, not suggesting that at all. I am merely stating that type of tackle is a dangerous play and worthy of a penalty. In the case of repeat offenders, a suspension is not out of line IMO. I used the hypothetical of McNabb being seriously injured and missing significant time because swammi made it sound as though he thought RW missing 1 game was perhaps excessesive but seemed to ignore the potential of that play putting McNabb out for much longer.

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No, not suggesting that at all. I am merely stating that type of tackle is a dangerous play and worthy of a penalty. In the case of repeat offenders, a suspension is not out of line IMO. I used the hypothetical of McNabb being seriously injured and missing significant time because swammi made it sound as though he thought RW missing 1 game was perhaps excessesive but seemed to ignore the potential of that play putting McNabb out for much longer.

 

There are many types of "dangerous plays" in the NFL ... why would horse collars be any different than cut blocks? Many times QBs get blind sided with vicious hits ... why should those be different than horse collars? When a WR goes up in the air to make a catch he often gets blasted and has no protection at all ... why should those be different than hose collars?

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There are many types of "dangerous plays" in the NFL ... why would horse collars be any different than cut blocks? Many times QBs get blind sided with vicious hits ... why should those be different than horse collars? When a WR goes up in the air to make a catch he often gets blasted and has no protection at all ... why should those be different than hose collars?

These are questions that you should be asking the rules committee. They are the one's who have deemed a horse collar tackle a play worthy of a penalty but chop blocks (and some of the other plays you mentioned) are not. I agree they are all dangerous plays and cannot tell you why some are penalized and some are not.

 

What I can tell you is I RW is guilty of yet again being involved in a play the league has deemed illegal and his being suspended 1 game is not out of line IMO.

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These are questions that you should be asking the rules committee. They are the one's who have deemed a horse collar tackle a play worthy of a penalty but chop blocks (and some of the other plays you mentioned) are not. I agree they are all dangerous plays and cannot tell you why some are penalized and some are not.

 

What I can tell you is I RW is guilty of yet again being involved in a play the league has deemed illegal and his being suspended 1 game is not out of line IMO.

 

Do other players that have accumulated 3 personal fouls ... say hard face masks get a 1 game suspension?

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Do other players that have accumulated 3 personal fouls ... say hard face masks get a 1 game suspension?

 

I think the Competition Commitee should get together and create penalties or allow for suspensions for Huddlers with an excessive amount of people on their ignore list as well as excessive taunting towards other Huddle members. :D

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Do other players that have accumulated 3 personal fouls ... say hard face masks get a 1 game suspension?

I think it depends. Are you talking 3 in one game? 3 in one season? 3 in a career? Has the player broken anyone's neck by facemasking them? I will admit I do not know the rule regarding personal fouls in a game. My personal opinion would be if a player gets 3 personal fouls in one game he should be ejected from that game and potentially suspended for the next.

 

In the case of Roy Williams (the subject of the thread) he was assessed a penalty (that was created arguably because of him) put into place by the league to protect players against injury. Because he has been penalized and warned about it previously, he was suspended.

 

I dont disagree with you that there a more plays(ie chop blocks) that should be illegal and players should be suspended should they repeatedly violate the rules regarding those plays.

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I think it depends. Are you talking 3 in one game? 3 in one season? 3 in a career? Has the player broken anyone's neck by facemasking them? I will admit I do not know the rule regarding personal fouls in a game. My personal opinion would be if a player gets 3 personal fouls in one game he should be ejected from that game and potentially suspended for the next.

 

In the case of Roy Williams (the subject of the thread) he was assessed a penalty (that was created arguably because of him) put into place by the league to protect players against injury. Because he has been penalized and warned about it previously, he was suspended.

 

I dont disagree with you that there a more plays(ie chop blocks) that should be illegal and players should be suspended should they repeatedly violate the rules regarding those plays.

 

 

My problem is that the league is being inconsistent in their approach to the game AND to their handling of personal fouls/horse collars. I've watched other games where players have made a horse collar tackle and not been called for it. The 15 yard face mask can be every bit as dangerous as the horse collar.

 

No this smacks of the NFL having a personal vendetta out for Roy Williams.

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My problem is that the league is being inconsistent in their approach to the game AND to their handling of personal fouls/horse collars. I've watched other games where players have made a horse collar tackle and not been called for it. The 15 yard face mask can be every bit as dangerous as the horse collar.

 

No this smacks of the NFL having a personal vendetta out for Roy Williams.

I agree with you 100% on the inconsistency and they could very well have it out for Williams.

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Let me start this by saying, a rule is a rule.... You continue to ignore it you should be suspended....

 

And now for the part you won't like..... To me this rule says, If cannot try to tackle a player from behind. If the player gets ahead of you, you should stop chasing him and let him go on his way. You can only tackle from the from or the side, not from behind....

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