Randall Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Titans fired offensive coordinator Norm Chow. Surprising move. Chow, who had previously worked as offensive coordinator at USC was with the team for three years. The Titans finished the season 21st in total offense, and their season was marked by Vince Young's struggles (9 TD, 17 INT). Chow's inability to develop Young in his complext offense (and perhaps his desire to draft Matt Leinart) ultimately led to his demise. Source: ESPN.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I wonder it the Cardinals are interested and have a spot for him? Maybe a QB coach if nothing else for Leinart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Back to college maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 (edited) It's a lot easier when you're at USC with a ton of talent around you. Maybe UCLA will make him an offer? I'm already hearing rumors about it. Edited January 15, 2008 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Chow will have zero problem landing a college job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Chow will have zero problem landing a college job Unless it's a head coaching job apparently. I keep hearing the talking heads tell me that he's not a very good interview. O.C., zero problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Chow didn't have a whole lot to work with... the most glaringly obvious being a pitiful receiving group. Despite that, his offense seemed awfully vanilla. I can understand dumbing things down last year but after 2 training camps one would've thought the gloves would've come off at least a little bit. I'd say Chow looked like a better OC than he really was considering the USC program and the considerable amount of control exerted by Carroll. Probably better for both parties that Chow and the Titans go their separate ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryTheRock Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 This is the first time that the franchise ranked below#20 in both yards and points since the 1994 Oilers so that is pretty hard to argue on Norm's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyPaws Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 poor b/c he would've been given a shot at Hawaii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 makes sense, and I would not be suprised if it was agred on by both parties. VY? puhlease - terrible QB to lead a Norm Chow offense, and I am sure severly limited what Chow wanted, and is capable of running. Plenty of talented coordinators and passing guru's like Chow who would not want VY running things........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 UCLA....Just like Neuheisel said he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Heard on ESPN Radio (on a local show from the Portland affiliate) yesterday that Chow didn't want Vince during the '06 draft. Chow also apparently said "good luck" in his departing remarks, which may or may not have been a swipe at the next O-coordinator's chances of making a QB out of Vince. Also heard that Chow was a "hard ass" and difficult to get along with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Fisher took McNair and polished him up. He's in the process of doing that with Young. The marked difference in play from last year to this year was Young's clear reluctance to tuck the ball and take off, like he did much of last year. I don't know what more to read into it than that. If Chow was still complaining about drafting Young 3 years later, he should have been shown the door. That's something you need to get over on the pro level quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Fisher took McNair and polished him up. He's in the process of doing that with Young. The marked difference in play from last year to this year was Young's clear reluctance to tuck the ball and take off, like he did much of last year. I don't know what more to read into it than that. If Chow was still complaining about drafting Young 3 years later, he should have been shown the door. That's something you need to get over on the pro level quickly. Big difference between McNair and VY. VY was awful this year- and many analysts remarked how easy it was to game plan for Tenn bc all they threw were bubble screens and chit- I gurantee that wasn't Chow's call. I think if VY hadn't shown enough improvement to open up the playbook with Vhow teaching, well Chow is on the money - good luck........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 If Chow was still complaining about drafting Young 3 years later, he should have been shown the door. That's something you need to get over on the pro level quickly. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 VY was awful this year- and many analysts remarked how easy it was to game plan for Tenn bc all they threw were bubble screens and chit- I gurantee that wasn't Chow's call. I think if VY hadn't shown enough improvement to open up the playbook with Vhow teaching, well Chow is on the money - good luck........... Yet they still made the playoffs? Tennessee looked like a team regressing going into 2007, the fact they made the playoffs despite the offensive performance is a testament to something. Why pay Chow so much $$$ when he's not helping the situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 (edited) Big difference between McNair and VY. VY was awful this year- and many analysts remarked how easy it was to game plan for Tenn bc all they threw were bubble screens and chit- I gurantee that wasn't Chow's call. I think if VY hadn't shown enough improvement to open up the playbook with Vhow teaching, well Chow is on the money - good luck........... Fair or not, Vince's God-awful 2007 season is going to put him on the hot seat next year. And it doesn't help that his WR supporting cast is terrible and that he's going to have to learn a new offensive system this summer. Edited January 16, 2008 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Fair or not, Vince's God-awful 2007 season is going to put him on the hot seat next year. And it doesn't help that his WR supporting cast is terrible and that he's going to have to learn a new offensive system this summer. I have to agree with this. Nothing like having to learn a new system to stagnate a QB's development. I wonder if Chad would come here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yet they still made the playoffs? Tennessee looked like a team regressing going into 2007, the fact they made the playoffs despite the offensive performance is a testament to something. Why pay Chow so much $$$ when he's not helping the situation? I dunno- was it b/c of or in spite of him, I can't see an argument that they won bc of him - in fact I would go as far to say that the offense would probably have been much more productive with Kerry Collins runnin the show the jury is still out on whether VY can be a quality NFL QB - I think it says something that Chow was so frustrated - like I said probly a good parting of the ways.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Fair or not, Vince's God-awful 2007 season is going to put him on the hot seat next year. And it doesn't help that his WR supporting cast is terrible and that he's going to have to learn a new offensive system this summer. I wish spain were here, because I believe there's no hot seat. I'm of the opinion the goal for Fisher this year was to teach Young to tuck and run less. Fisher has the 'big picture' in mind at all times, and if he set the primary goal this year of getting him to stop running (which SHOULD equate to a healthier career with fewer hits) than, well, that's what his goal was. If you dismiss the comparisons of VY and SM, then you don't know your history: McNair was kept under wraps for most of his first two years and Fisher only started cutting him loose in year 3. IMO Young is in the best possible situation he could have landed in with Fisher as his coach. I think Fisher's is moving him along frther than what he really wanted, and given that his option was Kerry Collins I'd say the Titans did quite well. Something tells me this dismissal has less to do with a confined offense making the playoffs and more of a 'personality dispute' that seems to be implied in the "Chow's still pissed they passed on Leinert." Remember when Volek apaprently told Fisher off? How fast was he shipped to SD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) I wish spain were here, because I believe there's no hot seat. I'm of the opinion the goal for Fisher this year was to teach Young to tuck and run less. Fisher has the 'big picture' in mind at all times, and if he set the primary goal this year of getting him to stop running (which SHOULD equate to a healthier career with fewer hits) than, well, that's what his goal was. I've heard report that Vince put on a few pounds this past off-season (don't know if it's true, but he looks heavier than 230). Perhaps that's why he was running less? If you dismiss the comparisons of VY and SM, then you don't know your history You have me confused with somebody else, and yes I do know my history. McNair was kept under wraps for most of his first two years and Fisher only started cutting him loose in year 3. No argument there. The situation now is pretty similar: Little or no WR talent, a good running game, and a good defense. Something tells me this dismissal has less to do with a confined offense making the playoffs and more of a 'personality dispute' that seems to be implied in the "Chow's still pissed they passed on Leinert." Remember when Volek apaprently told Fisher off? How fast was he shipped to SD? That's quite possible. Then again, you're a UT homer and a Vince fan, so it's not really surprising that you're arguing that point. I don't know what happened, but I'd say that it's very possible that Chow was fed up with VY's skill set and work ethic that's what ultimately lead to his dismissal. From what I've heard, Vince isn't exactly a film-study junkie. Then again, who knows. It's also possible that Chow's dismissal was due to a philosophical difference in offense between Chow and Fisher and had nothing to do with VY. Edited January 17, 2008 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 ..hates Vince and Vick. Interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 ..hates Vince and Vick. Interesting But likes McNair, McNabb, Marvin, Reggie, etc. Which white athletes do you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 But likes McNair, McNabb, Marvin, Reggie, etc. Which white athletes do you like? Lynch, Welker, Vrabel, Witten. You know, those no names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Lynch, Welker, Vrabel, Witten. You know, those no names. Yep, and I've heard you praise all four of those guys here often. Nice try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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