Giants poised to give up 1st for Hall

[rajncajn]

http://blog.nj.com/ledgergiants/2008/02/gi...r_deangelo.html

 

Yup, still overrated...but given it's the 1.31 it's not a bad value.

 

Giants seek trade for DeAngelo Hall

Posted by Mike Garafolo February 22, 2008 12:18AM

 

INDIANAPOLIS -- With their top two free-agent targets wearing pricey franchise tags, the Giants are trying another route toward getting a top cornerback: A trade with the Falcons for two-time Pro Bowl cornerback DeAngelo Hall.

John Russell/APHall is a playmaker the Giants would love to get on the cheap.

 

According to two people with knowledge of discussions between the teams, the Giants are willing to give Atlanta their first-round pick (31st overall) in April's draft in exchange for Hall. The people requested anonymity because of the private nature of the trade talks.

 

Giants general manager Jerry Reese declined to comment yesterday morning when asked whether the Giants have inquired about Hall, the eighth overall pick in the 2004 draft.

 

The Giants had hoped to make a run at the Seahawks' Marcus Trufant and the Raiders' Nnamdi Asomugha, according to one of the people familiar with the team's off-season plans, but each was made the franchise players by their respective teams. The Giants would owe two first-round picks if they signed either player. Patriots cornerback Asante Samuel, who will become a free agent next Friday, is viewed by the Giants more as a player whose success is the product of New England's defensive system than his own ability.

 

Hall, 24, is a fast, tough and talented player who had 17 interceptions in his four NFL seasons. However, he had a tumultuous 2007 season with the Falcons. In a loss to the Panthers in September, he drew three penalties on Carolina's game-tying drive and then got into a shouting match with coach Bobby Petrino on the sideline. Hall was fined $100,000 and benched for the first quarter of the next week's game for the incident.

 

Hall further criticized Petrino when the first-year coach resigned in mid-December -- with three games left in the season.

 

"If I saw him in the street, I wouldn't have anything to say to him," Hall said at the time. "I don't have any respect for him. He turned his back on the organization."

 

Even though Petrino is now at the University of Arkansas, Hall's relationship with the Falcons is still unsettled. Newly hired general manager Thomas Dimitroff told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution this week he would listen to trade offers for Hall, though new coach Mike Smith and the rest of his staff would like to keep the four-year veteran. Dimitroff is believed to be shopping for a better deal at the Combine, which began yesterday and runs through Tuesday.

 

The Falcons already have dumped several veterans, including four-time Pro Bowl tight end Alge Crumpler, and seem to be interested in shedding other salaries.

 

Since he was hired 13 months ago, Reese has made two trades -- for placekicker Lawrence Tynes and running back Reuben Droughns. Tynes recently agreed to a five-year, $7 million deal to remain with the Giants, but Droughns, who was overtaken on the depth chart by Derrick Ward and then Ahmad Bradshaw, likely will be released soon. Reese nearly pulled off a third trade last spring, but that fell through when former Broncos linebacker Al Wilson failed a physical.

 

Reese's successes as GM have mostly come via the draft. All eight of his picks from a year ago became contributors for the Super Bowl XLII champions, including Bradshaw and first-rounder Aaron Ross.

 

The Giants are confident they have a long-term starting cornerback in Ross, who had three interceptions and six more passes defensed in his rookie season. Ross also had 1½ sacks and many quarterback pressures while blitzing from his spot as the nickel cornerback on passing downs.

 

The Giants also like what they've seen recently from Corey Webster -- the three-year veteran and former second-round pick who looked to be a bust during his first two seasons with the Giants. Webster quickly turned things around with an interception returned for a touchdown against the Bills in December, an interception against the Buccaneers in the first round of the playoffs and another interception to set up the game-winning field goal against the Packers in the NFC Championship game.

 

But cornerback is one area where Reese likes to have as much depth as possible. (Defensive end is clearly another.) By adding Hall, the Giants would increase depth and give themselves one of the league's best corners. They might also be able to shed the $1.47 million in salary 11-year veteran Sam Madison is owed this upcoming season by cutting him. Backup corner R.W. McQuarters, who is scheduled to earn $2.525 million in salary, is expected to be released -- perhaps as soon as this week.

 

Hall's 2008 salary is $4.22 million. The following season he's owed $957,500, though that year is voidable. Chances are the Giants will want to work out a new long-term deal if they complete the trade with Atlanta.

 

Hall's agent, Joel Segal, did not return an e-mail seeking comment.

 

MG

Edited February 22, 2008 by rajncajn

[Ziachild007]

I think that would be good for both teams.

[Robash]

this would certainly help...Hall, Ross, Webster, and Dockery would be nice.

 

All for not if we can't resign Wilson though...

Edited February 22, 2008 by Robash

[isleseeya]

I'll take it

[Bronco Billy]

That would be a great move for both teams if ATL is intent on moving Hall. I'd watch ATL to try to trade up to the first pick to get Ryan if this happens, which would let MIA off the hook on him so that they could address a line position, and pick up another higher draft pick in the process. You could 3 teams winnning in this trade.

[Footballjoe]

I wouldn't mind the Redskins going after Hall. We could really use soe D line help but Springs may be going and Carlos Rogers is already said to be out for about half the season. He's from VA anyhow. Come home DeAngelo.

[Sturphy]

I'd watch ATL to try to trade up to the first pick to get Ryan if this happens

Based on the few things I've been reading lately, it appears the Falcons could trade down and still get Ryan. Think he goes higher than the #3 pick?

[Bronco Billy]

Based on the few things I've been reading lately, it appears the Falcons could trade down and still get Ryan. Think he goes higher than the #3 pick?

 

Unless he drops trou at the combine and/or private workouts, he is being touted as a franchise QB in the league. I'm not sure I agree, but if that is the perception among GMs/coaches/owners, it may just require the 1st pick in the draft to get him.

[Sturphy]

Unless he drops trou at the combine and/or private workouts, he is being touted as a franchise QB in the league. I'm not sure I agree, but if that is the perception among GMs/coaches/owners, it may just require the 1st pick in the draft to get him.

Yeah, I'm not sure about him as a franchise QB either. We'll see how it plays out. His arm reminds me of Alex Smith, but he has less mobility. The top QB prospect of every draft seems to get overrated every year based on need. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see him slip down in the 1st round.

 

I guess this is totally derailing the thread. I'm getting pretty good at that.

[juanruiz13]

I hate Hall's attitude, but he's a great player... hopefully he learns to shut his trap

[piratesownninjas]

I wouldn't mind the Redskins going after Hall. We could really use soe D line help but Springs may be going and Carlos Rogers is already said to be out for about half the season. He's from VA anyhow. Come home DeAngelo.

Hall is going to demand a mega deal, which I don't think the Skins would be willing to pay...

I mean, not have enough cap space to pay.

[piratesownninjas]

I hate Hall's attitude, but he's a great player... hopefully he learns to shut his trap

I think Hall's attitude is what's been keeping him from taking the next step towards being great. He gets pissed off and commits stupid penalties or lets WR's get into his head... This is usually followed by him getting owned on a 9 route.