Guest Chappy Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Hall Refutes Trade Report Raiders DB DeAngelo Hall recently shot down a report that said the Falcons had traded him to the Raiders for draft picks. "As of right now, we're still at the same stages that I was at with every other team," Hall said. We will keep listing him as a Raider until further news comes out that the report issued by ESPN was premature. | March 16, 2008 12:42 PM Is the deal done or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 www.ajc.com... The Sacramento Bee is reporting that was Hall was in Oakland on Friday to meet with Raiders officials, but Hall would neither confirm nor deny that he was there.... "I will not be a part of another losing team for another year," Hall told the AJC in December. "I've got to do what I've got to do. No matter who hates me." Yeah, so if that's the case then obviously you'd go visit the perennial contender, Oakland Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 I can see the presser now: Reporter: "You said you were only going to play for a winning team. Oakland has won 19 games in the past five years combined. They're on their fourth coach in six years, and possibly their 5th in seven years. How do you reconcile these two very different seeming things?" Hall: "How can a team be a losing team if they're willing to pay me $20 million guaranteed? Seems like a winning attitude to me!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 16, 2008 Share Posted March 16, 2008 Yeah, so if that's the case then obviously you'd go visit the perennial contender, Oakland Raiders. Maybe he'll play under an assumed name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpholmes Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Scheftner reports on NFL Network that Hall spent the day meeting with Davis, Kiffin and Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Scheftner reports on NFL Network that Hall spent the day meeting with Davis, Kiffin and Ryan. When was Kiffin allowed to leave the kid table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Oh AL. Have ye learned nothing for that smiley little contemptable prick Dan Snyder? Ye cannot buy a good team. Ye can only mold one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Of S&B Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx ESPN's John Clayton reports the contract DeAngelo Hall is expected to sign after he's acquired by Oakland will be for six years and over $50 million. Nnamdi Asomugha is going to want (and deserve) at least that. Asante Samuel's with the Eagles was for six years and $57.14 million. Clayton says Raiders owner Al Davis is pulling out all the stops to make this deal a reality ******** Got to give it to the old man, at least he's trying this year....if they draft one of the top-2 DTs (Ellis or Dorsey) or one of the top-2 DEs (Long or Golhston), our defense will improve (especially with Namdi / Hall / Wilson and Huff in the secondary and Morrison / Howard patroling the middle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx ESPN's John Clayton reports the contract DeAngelo Hall is expected to sign after he's acquired by Oakland will be for six years and over $50 million. Nnamdi Asomugha is going to want (and deserve) at least that. Asante Samuel's with the Eagles was for six years and $57.14 million. Clayton says Raiders owner Al Davis is pulling out all the stops to make this deal a reality ******** Got to give it to the old man, at least he's trying this year....if they draft one of the top-2 DTs (Ellis or Dorsey) or one of the top-2 DEs (Long or Golhston), our defense will improve (especially with Namdi / Hall / Wilson and Huff in the secondary and Morrison / Howard patroling the middle) He should try a little harder at NOT firing the best coach we've had in years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports trade talks between the Raiders and Falcons involving DeAngelo Hall hit a stall late Monday.The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran a report claiming the exact opposite earlier this afternoon. Schefter says it no longer appears as though the trade will happen. If it's a cap space issue for the Raiders, they could clear some room by releasing LaMont Jordan and Stuart Schweigert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Cracker Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hall close to finalizing deal with RaidersTwo-time Pro Bowl CB to sign contract with Oakland Thursday By STEVE WYCHE The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 03/18/08 Falcons two-time Pro Bowl cornerback DeAngelo Hall told the AJC Tuesday that he will finalize a contract with Oakland by Thursday morning and that a trade between Atlanta and the Raiders will be consummated shortly thereafter. Hall said he is scheduled to fly to Oakland Wednesday to meet with team officials and sign a new contract. "There is just some tweaking of the language that needs to be done, some minor details," Hall said of contract negotiations. "No deal breakers." Atlanta will receive Oakland's second- and sixth-round picks in the April 26-27 NFL draft. The compensation will give the Falcons four selections in the first 48 picks of the draft — three in the second round. Atlanta holds the No. 3 overall pick along with the 36th and 48th picks. Once the trade is completed, the Falcons would add the 34th overall selection currently held by Oakland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Having picks 34 and 36 could be huge in case they need to move back into the lower part of round 1. Say, if Brohm falls far enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspx ESPN's John Clayton reports the contract DeAngelo Hall is expected to sign after he's acquired by Oakland will be for six years and over $50 million. Nnamdi Asomugha is going to want (and deserve) at least that. Asante Samuel's with the Eagles was for six years and $57.14 million. Clayton says Raiders owner Al Davis is pulling out all the stops to make this deal a reality ******** Got to give it to the old man, at least he's trying this year....if they draft one of the top-2 DTs (Ellis or Dorsey) or one of the top-2 DEs (Long or Golhston), our defense will improve (especially with Namdi / Hall / Wilson and Huff in the secondary and Morrison / Howard patroling the middle) Mort just said 7 years 70 million... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) Mort just said 7 years 70 million... I can't see this working out in the long run. Asomugha better sign that franchise tender, since this deal should give his one year salary a boost. He can get paid for 2008 and get out in a year without ever having to deal with Al Davis. Edited March 18, 2008 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Al Davis loves giving his money away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Mort just said 7 years 70 million... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Home_NFL.aspxESPN's John Clayton reports the contract DeAngelo Hall is expected to sign after he's acquired by Oakland will be for six years and over $50 million. Mort just said 7 years 70 million... Yeah, yeah, yeah...6 years & over $50 million...7 years for $70 million...whatever C'mon guys you know how this works. The big salary years will be backloaded & when the time comes, Hall either restructures / renegoitiates his contract, or gets cut. Then you know there will be millions tied into his contract which are supposedly "likely to be obtained" incentives, such as 100 solo kick off coverage tackles, which Hall will never do, because the Raiders won't send him out on kick off coverage. The chances of Hall seing the full $50 million...or $70 million...or whatever ridiculous number it ends up being, are slim & none...& slim just left town. It's the guaranteed dollars of his contract that counts. Everything else is merely window dressing that'll play to Hall's vanity allowing him to strut around like king rooster preening & crowing how he's one of the NFL's top paid CB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yeah, yeah, yeah...6 years & over $50 million...7 years for $70 million...whatever C'mon guys you know how this works. The big salary years will be backloaded & when the time comes, Hall either restructures / renegoitiates his contract, or gets cut. Then you know there will be millions tied into his contract which are supposedly "likely to be obtained" incentives, such as 100 solo kick off coverage tackles, which Hall will never do, because the Raiders won't send him out on kick off coverage. The chances of Hall seing the full $50 million...or $70 million...or whatever ridiculous number it ends up being, are slim & none...& slim just left town. It's the guaranteed dollars of his contract that counts. Everything else is merely window dressing that'll play to Hall's vanity allowing him to strut around like king rooster preening & crowing how he's one of the NFL's top paid CB's. True. But at the same token by the end of his contract he will be turning 32. So its possible he see every penny of this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 ...its possible he see every penny of this deal. It's also possible that'll I'll sprout angel wings tonight & be able to fly tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 True. But at the same token by the end of his contract he will be turning 32. So its possible he see every penny of this deal. These days no one in the NFL plays on a contract that's older than 7 years. Either the contract gets torn up and restructured or the player is long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 These days no one in the NFL plays on a contract that's older than 7 years. Either the contract gets torn up and restructured or the player is long gone. What about Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer and even Tom Brady. I know they all qb's. I just believe at the rate these contracts are going up. If it keeping going up like this. Hall deal and some of the other big names. Their contract will look like steals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Of S&B Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Halls deal was said to be worth 7 years 70 million but it has been reported that it is backloaded towards the last 3 years of the contract Hall will probably be making 8-9 million a year and then on the last 3 years he'll be makin 12-13 The Raiders have signed a lot of players in the past to backloaded deals. Even Tim Brown's last contract in 2002 was heavily backloaded....11 and 12 mil in his last two years...he never saw those inflated numbers because even as great as Tim Brown was Al Davis released him before those numbers kicked in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 (edited) What about Peyton Manning Restructured most recently in 2007. When he restructured, he was on a huge deal he signed in 2004. Carson Palmer Drafted in 2003 so he can't be 7 years into any contract. Anyways, now he's barely 3 years into an extension (until 2014) he signed in 2005. Tom Brady He is signed through 2010 on a contract he signed in 2005. Also, he restructured the deal at least once. Most recently in 2007. He was drafted in 2000 so assuming he was still on his rookie contract in 2005 that's only 6 years. No one plays on a 7 year old contract anymore. Edited March 19, 2008 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 True. But at the same token by the end of his contract he will be turning 32. So its possible he see every penny of this deal. Larry Fitzgerald can barely buy beer legally and he just had his contract torn up and redone. In the NFL, you can basically forget about the last two years of any deal. Big Score 1 has it right on the money. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 20, 2008 Share Posted March 20, 2008 With 24 m garunteed, I wouldn't worry bout the last 2 yrs, gets redone with more upfront money. Unreal money but more power to them I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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