Ziachild007 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Have you not been watching? Hackett is clearly better than Moose. Not even close. Cheap price, but Hackett hasn't been all that. He played in 36 of the Seahawks 72 games during his 4-year stint with the club, including 22 of the last 36. He's been productive at times, but not altogether healthy. When he is healthy, and one of several options on a prolific West Coast passing offense, with a pro bowl QB he has been running reps with for 4 years, he can make plays. Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Nice complimentary player, but not a #2. As can be seen by every team in the NFL passing on his demands of more than $3 mil per. And in order to catch the ball, one has to have someone throw the ball. So don't send Hackett to Honolulu just yet. No one is saying he's a pro bowler, but he's an upgrade over Carter, Colbert and Moosh. He played great when healthy, and that is the only thing that stands in his way of being a very good #2... Bingo! You're siding with homers who are known to throw there homer slant. No offense to GTS or Bush, but your homer colors are shining through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 No offense to GTS or Bush, but your homer colors are shining through. My quote you are referring to isn't an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 No offense to GTS or Bush, but your homer colors are shining through. Hackett should be the #2 WR starting opposite Steve Smith this fall, giving us another weapon on offense. thmbup.gif Seattle dropped the ball imo Dropped the ball is an understatement. I am not going to equate this to Hutch. But I will say. With Branch being out for a while. Its going to be interesting to see how they rebound from this. Hackett is a great #2 What you call homer colors seems to me to be just plain ol' knowledge of the product. I see some extremely kind mid-March hyperbole being tossed around regarding Hackett. I don't think there's anything wrong with throwing a bit of September-to-January realism into the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 No one is saying he's a pro bowler, but he's an upgrade over Carter, Colbert and Moosh. He played great when healthy, and that is the only thing that stands in his way of being a very good #2...You're siding with homers who are known to throw there homer slant.No offense to GTS or Bush, but your homer colors are shining through. You are minimizing his ability to stay healthy, IMO. The fact is he has missed about 50% of his games due to injury. That right there is reason enough to not get expectations up too much. As for the homers, they are all fully aware of his injuries in the past and thats exactly what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 bargain price for a player thats only 26 and has a lot of upside. Very good signing for the panthers. Seattle dropped the ball imo Don't know about that last sentence, but I agree with the rest. That's a great price for ANY young WR with significant upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 With Branch just recently having surgery, I gotta figure being put on the PUP is the likely scenario. They may be better off shutting him down till '09. Deion Branch is out for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 this offense should be better than it has ever been. Isn't the Offensive line a little more unstable than at any time in recent history though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I think congratulations to the Cats are in order. You're gonna like this kid. When healthy, Hackett is a #1 WR talent. Not on the level of Smith, but could be a #1 on more than a handful of teams. He is very well rounded for being as raw as he is. Good hands, good size, good speed, runs well after the catch, blocks well enough. His very best quality is his ability to make plays on the ball down the field. He flat goes up and gets it. The health is the only thing holding him back. He has been on the cusp of breaking out 2-3 times now, only to get hurt. The one last year was just a freak injury. He got clipped at a really weird angle by a guy rolling into him. At least that injury wasn't just caused by being brittle. I don't know if he will necessarily have huge numbers there, but he will be a very good compliment to Smith. Whoever was comparing Moose to Hackett at this point needs to get up with the times. Moose however is a pretty good insurance plan if Hackett gets hurt as usually does. Kudos to the Pats, but man, that was my guy! I don't want to sound too idiotic, but he always reminded me of T.O. Just the way he moves and looks in his uniform. Okay, sorry. Are you telling me that after Bobby retires this year we are going to be left with Deion freakin' Branch?? Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Cheap price, but Hackett hasn't been all that. He played in 36 of the Seahawks 72 games during his 4-year stint with the club, including 22 of the last 36. He's been productive at times, but not altogether healthy. Really started to shine when Seneca Wallace played for Hasselbeck in 2006. Nice complimentary player, but not a #2. As can be seen by every team in the NFL passing on his demands of more than $3 mil per. And in order to catch the ball, one has to have someone throw the ball. So don't send Hackett to Honolulu just yet. Ben Obomanu and Courtney Taylor are at WR for the Seahawks, in addition to Bobby Engram and Nate Burleson, and whatever the situation is with Deion Branch. Perhaps another addition will come later, but I don't really see this as a position of weakness for the club. In 2007, Engram was the first Seattle WR to go over 1000 since 2004, Hasselbeck's health has more to do with the WR situation than the personnel. ...dont forget this guy...Logan Payne. He was a practice player, but I think this guy will surprise people this year. Another option is Joe Newton TE another developmental player on the practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdog Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I must say that I've generally liked what I've seen of Hackett when he plays. But if Seattle wasn't willing to pay him what Carolina did, that says a lot IMO. And he didn't get any significant offers from other clubs. I was high on this kid going into our dynasty fantasy draft last year so I'm surprised its come to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I must say that I've generally liked what I've seen of Hackett when he plays. But if Seattle wasn't willing to pay him what Carolina did, that says a lot IMO. And he didn't get any significant offers from other clubs. Hackett played in 8 games last year (including two playoff games). His performance translates into a full-season of 80 catches, 1000 yards, and 8 TDs. That's pretty solid numbers, better than I thought he had. Call me a homer if you wish, but I think rebog covers the bottom line here. If the Seahawks were enamored with Hackett they would have tendered him something. That says a lot more about his health/abilities than anything else. Especially considering the health/age/ability questions at WR they appear to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Big Head Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Don't know about that last sentence, but I agree with the rest. That's a great price for ANY young WR with significant upside. I just have a hard time making sense of why Seattle couldnt pony up a little cash for a player that was the best wr on the field for them when healthy. Yeah, they have Engram and Burleson. Ben Obamanu has looked ok at times, but hes had some drops and is still very inexpirienced. Branch is an IR possibility heading into 08. It was obvious at least to me that Hasselbeck had a lot of confidance in Hackett. Seems like they dropped the ball to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Deion Branch is out for the season. Wow, I didn't know it was that bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Wow, I didn't know it was that bad... The Prof might have some inside info, but I haven't heard anything else definitive on Branch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 The Prof might have some inside info, but I haven't heard anything else definitive on Branch. It has been speculated that he may start the year on PUP...so if that is the case we may get him week 6 or 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I just have a hard time making sense of why Seattle couldnt pony up a little cash for a player that was the best wr on the field for them when healthy. Yeah, they have Engram and Burleson. Ben Obamanu has looked ok at times, but hes had some drops and is still very inexpirienced. Branch is an IR possibility heading into 08. It was obvious at least to me that Hasselbeck had a lot of confidance in Hackett. Seems like they dropped the ball to me Yeah, I don't see why SEA wouldn't match (or exceeded) the money that CAR gave him... 2/3.5 is peanuts, even for an injury-prone guy. I wonder if there's bad blood between Hackett and Ruskell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yeah, I don't see why SEA wouldn't match (or exceeded) the money that CAR gave him... 2/3.5 is peanuts, even for an injury-prone guy. I wonder if there's bad blood between Hackett and Ruskell. Haven't heard a peep about bad blood between Hackett and the Seahawks FO. But again, Ruskell was one of many GMs over period of several weeks that decided Hackett wasn't worth 2 years for 3.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Haven't heard a peep about bad blood between Hackett and the Seahawks FO. But again, Ruskell was one of many GMs over period of several weeks that decided Hackett wasn't worth 2 years for 3.5 million. I haven't heard anything either. But I'm still surprised that so many teamspassed on a guy who's as talented as Hackett - even if he IS an injury risk. I can't imagine that more than $2 million of that deal is guaranteed. I'm beginning to wonder if Hackett has some sort of degenerative condition that's being kept under wraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Steve Smith hasn't had a no.2 of this quality in years. I like Super Jake Delhomme this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Steve Smith hasn't had a no.2 of this quality in years. I like Super Jake Delhomme this year but whats the protection going to look like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Yeah, I don't see why SEA wouldn't match (or exceeded) the money that CAR gave him... 2/3.5 is peanuts, even for an injury-prone guy. I wonder if there's bad blood between Hackett and Ruskell. +1 Especially considering this is the same team that gave Nate Burleson a 7 year, $49 million ($5.25 guaranteed) contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD6405 Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 To Carolina? What a waste of a decent WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 To Carolina? What a waste of a decent WR. Thanks for your input... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 +1 Especially considering this is the same team that gave Nate Burleson a 7 year, $49 million ($5.25 guaranteed) contract. Nate did almost double Hackett's receptions and yardage last year; not to mention Nate's 9 receiving TDs last year equal Hackett's career total. Apparently Hackett has reached the Matt Jones level of hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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