muck Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 According to this website, Tampa Bay owes KC two picks (one in 2008 and one in 2009) for Michael Bennett and also owes KC one pick in 2008 for Ryan Sims...and all three picks are conditional. There are quite a few other trades that have conditional picks due from one team to another -- some of these conditions are pretty straight forward (% of offensive snaps, etc) and others less so. So, as it regards the picks for Bennett and Sims, 1) Does anyone know what they are conditional upon? 2) Does anyone have any experience / insight as to how the compensation will be agreed upon? I mean, it sounds like the "player to be named later" sorts of trades in MLB, but, I can't imagine it's as flip as that... Personally, I'd be floored if they got more than a 5th or 6th in either year for Bennett ... and would be floored if we got anything more than a 3rd or 4th for Sims ... but, again, I have no idea how these sorts of very open ended sounding trades work. Anyone else know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 According to the Bucs' official team page: "On May, 2007, the Buccaneers traded their seventh-round pick in 2009 to the Chiefs for defensive tackle Ryan Sims. The trade stipulates that the pick will only go to the Chiefs if Sims is on the Buccaneers' active roster for at least six games in 2008. Sims was on the roster all season, and thus the pick did go to the Chiefs. On October 16, 2007, the Buccaneers traded their sixth-round pick in 2008 to Kansas City for RB Michael Bennett and the Buccaneers' own seventh-round pick in 2009. In other words, Tampa Bay reacquired the pick it traded for Sims while trading for Bennett. The deal stipulated that Kansas City would have kept that pick had Bennett rushed for 400 or more yards with the Buccaneers; he finished with 187. In a way, the Buccaneers got extra value out of their sixth-rounder this year, as they essentially used it to get both Bennett and Sims. That was the net of their two trades with the Chiefs, considering that their original seventh in 2009 came back on the second trade." So the Chiefs get a sixth-rounder, thanks in no small part to Earnest Graham being much better than expected and Michael Bennett being... well, about what we've come to expect from Michael Bennett (says the jaded Vikings fan). Hope that helps 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) So, KC is not getting two picks in 2008 and one in 2009 from Tampa? We're getting one pick, and that pick is a 6th rounder in 2008? Edited April 13, 2008 by muck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j2v Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 That's the way it reads to me as well. I've been trying to track all the trades tied to this draft and I know at one point the Chiefs wrote off the pick-for-Sims deal, kind of lumping it in with the Bennett trade. But I thought the Chiefs were still getting two picks out of the deal. Maybe they would have if Bennett hadn't been such a sled dog. The Chiefs still get Miami's 5th rounder (for Trent Green) and the Giants' 7th (Larry Tynes), so they have 10 picks in all. 2V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 You can use the extra pick for another kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted April 13, 2008 Author Share Posted April 13, 2008 You can use the extra pick for another kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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