Rating your team's 05 draft

[BeeR]

Since they say it takes a few years to begin to really evaluate how good a draft was...

 

This link might help (or you can go to the team pages):

 

http://www.drafthistory.com/years/2005.html

 

 

I give the Colts a B, maybe B+.

[Outshined]

Vikings: F-

 

 

#7 - WR, Troy Williamson - gone

#18 - DE, Erasmus James - Almost gone, bust

#49 - OG, Marcus Johnson - backup

#80 - DB, Dustin Fox - gone

#112 - RB, Ciatrick Fason - gone

#191 - DT, CJ Mosely - gone

#219 - DB, Adrian Ward - gone

Edited May 3, 2008 by Outshined

[The Irish Doggy]

Bengals D-

 

Can't fault them for David Pollack since he retired due to injury. Odell Thurman and Chris Henry have been terrific on the field, and spectacular headaches off it.

 

They do have a starting center and backup DT out of the remaining picks that are decent players. WR Tab Perry has signed with Miami as a FA after 3 mostly injury plagued seasons, but he showed #3 ability when healthy.

 

So, they made picks of players that can definitely play the game, but the horrible off-field events brings the entire class down.

Edited May 3, 2008 by The Irish Doggy

[DMD]

This one may be easier to use

 

Dallas got DeMarcus Ware, Marcus Spears and Marion Barber in the first four rounds. That was pretty good.

[Sleeping King]

1.32 OG Logan Mankins-Team's best OL-2007 All Pro

3.20 CB Ellis Hobbs-#1CB

3.36 OG Nick Kaczur-Starting RT

4.32 S James Sanders-Starting FS

5.34 OLB Ryan Claridge-No longer with team

7.16 QB Matt Cassel-Backup QB

7.41 TE Andy Stokes-Mr. Irrelevant, now plays for Seahawks

 

Grade-Very Solid A, one of the best of the Belicheck era.

 

First 4 picks were starters. Mankins is one of the top 3 Guards in the league as far as I am concerned. Hobbs and Sanders are both very good starters. Kaczur I am not so high on but he has started plenty of games. And Cassel...about as much as you could expect for a guy who did not even play in college.

[Puddy]

Detroit Lions

 

1.10 WR Mike Williams Usc

2.05 DT Shaun Cody Usc

3.08 CB Stanley Wilson Stanford

5.09 QB Dan Orlovsky Connecticut

6.10 DE Bill Swancutt Oregon State

6.32 DE Jonathan Goddard Marshall

7.09 WR Marcus Maxwell Oregon

 

 

 

 

[Sleeping King]

Vikings: F-

 

 

#7 - WR, Troy Williamson - gone

#18 - DE, Erasmus James - Almost gone, bust

#49 - OG, Marcus Johnson - backup

#80 - DB, Dustin Fox - gone

#112 - RB, Ciatrick Fason - gone

#191 - DT, CJ Mosely - gone

#219 - DB, Adrian Ward - gone

 

Yikes. Tice should be sued for that.

[AtomicCEO]

2.24 CB Darrent Williams Oklahoma State RIP

3.12 CB Karl Paymah Washington State Not much of a pick here.

3.33 CB Domonique Foxworth Maryland Starting nickel back... not my favorite. Gets burned a lot.

3.37 RB Maurice Clarett Ohio State Waste of a pick

6.26 OG Chris Myers Miami (Fla.) Started every game last year... for Houston

7.25 K Paul Ernster Northern Arizona Currently the second best punter in Detroit.

 

So... no first round pick, and our next top pick is dead. He was a player when he was here though.

 

So, one dead good player, 1 piss poor starter, the worst pick in history, and 3 "meh"s.

 

Can't say I'm psyched about it.

Edited May 3, 2008 by AtomicCEO

[SheikYerbuti]

2.11 CB Corey Webster Louisiana State

3.10 DE Justin Tuck Notre Dame

4.09 RB Brandon Jacobs Southern Illinois

6.12 DE Eric Moore Florida State

 

From bigblueview.com:

 

Associated Press football writer Dave Goldberg has gone back and looked at the 2005 draft , and concluded that the Giants, Chargers and Cowboys are the only teams who deserved 'A' grades for what they did that year.

Here is what he said about the Giants '05 draft.

 

San Diego (13-6), New York Giants (14-6). These are related because of the deal during the 2004 draft that landed Eli Manning with the Giants and Philip Rivers with the Chargers.

 

Ernie Accorsi, then the Giants general manager, included his first pick in 2005 instead of a raw young defensive end Osi Umenyiora, whom the Chargers said they would take instead.

It worked for both teams: Umenyiora developed into a two-time Pro Bowler and is one of those fearsome pass rushers who terrorized Tom Brady in the Giants’ Super Bowl upset. The Chargers used the pick obtained from New York on Shawne Merriman, the game’s best pass-rushing outside linebacker—Ware is probably the second best.

 

New York had only four picks in 2005. But its second-rounder was cornerback Corey Webster. Its third was defensive lineman Justin Tuck, and its fourth was starting running back Brandon Jacobs.

 

Tuck had two sacks of Brady in the Super Bowl. Jacobs was a solid replacement for Tiki Barber with help from one of the 2007 rookies, Ahmad Bradshaw.

 

Webster is an example of why draft analysis must wait. He was a disappointment until late in his third season, when he had an interception return for a touchdown against Buffalo in the win that clinched a playoff berth. He added two more INTs in the playoffs, including the one in overtime off Brett Favre that set up the winning field goal in the NFC title game.

 

Wow. . .Accorsi gave up his 2005 first round pick rather than lose Osi. I remember this when it happened. It's just strange remembering it 3 years later and knowing what Osi turned into. Great job Ernie.

Edited May 3, 2008 by SheikYerbuti

[Piranha]

Bills didn't have a first rounder...

 

Round 2, pick 23, # 55 - Roscoe Parrish Bills WR Miami (FL)

Round 3, pick 22, # 86 - Kevin Everett Bills TE Miami (FL)

Round 4, pick 21, # 122 - Duke Preston Bills C Illinois

Round 5, pick 20, # 156 - Eric King Bills DB Wake Forest

Round 6, pick 23, # 197 - Justin Geisinger Bills G Vanderbilt

Round 7, pick 22, # - 236 - Lionel Gates Bills RB Louisville

 

 

Only 2 are still with the team.

[TitansFan]

1.06 CB Adam Jones West Virginia - Everyone knows the story by now

2.09 OT Michael Roos Eastern Washington - Turning into a great Left Tackle

3.04 WR Courtney Roby Indiana - Not on team

3.32 WR Brandon Jones Oklahoma - Many thought was going to break out last year, didn't happen

4.07 CB Vincent Fuller Virginia Tech - Backup safety

4.12 OT David Stewart Mississippi State - Starting Right Tackle

4.35 WR Roydell Williams Tulane - Had some nice games last year, needs to be more consistent

5.06 RB Damien Nash Missouri - RIP

5.14 OT Daniel Loper Texas Tech - Backup Tackle

6.05 TE Bo Scaife Texas - Decent receiving TE

7.04 CB Reynaldo Hill Florida - How he's still on the team I have no idea, gets burned a LOT

 

 

I'll give it a C. Roos was a fantastic pick, Stewart and Scaife are great value from where they were taken, and Williams started to get it together a bit last year. Other than that it's pretty much meh.

[kingfish247]

1.27 WR Roddy White Alabama-Birmingham ~ Starting to come into his own

2.27 DT Jonathan Babineaux Iowa ~ The other Falcon accused of animal cruelty in 2007. He was cleared. 16 starts in 3 years.

3.26 OLB Jordan Beck Cal Poly ~ Now with the Broncos. Mostly a special teams guy IIRC.

4.27 DE Chauncey Davis Florida State ~ 4 sacks in 18 starts. Team traded for Abraham in 2006 then took a DE in the top 10 in 2007.

5.24 OLB Michael Boley Southern Mississippi ~ 109 tackles at SLB last year.

5.27 OT Frank Omiyale Tennessee Tech ~ No starts. Appeared in 1 game. Cut before 2007 season. Claimed by Panthers.

6.27 RB Deandra Cobb Michigan State ~ Out of football.

7.27 DT Darrell Shropshire South Carolina ~ Cut before 2007 season.

 

So basically it's White and Boley... D, mostly because you should have 2 starters out of your first 4 picks. They don't need to be Pro Bowlers or anything just starters. Babineaux is atop the depth chart at DT but that could definitely change. If he starts and does ok, could be a B-.

[wcd480]

Vikings: F-

 

 

#7 - WR, Troy Williamson - gone

#18 - DE, Erasmus James - Almost gone, bust

#49 - OG, Marcus Johnson - backup

#80 - DB, Dustin Fox - gone

#112 - RB, Ciatrick Fason - gone

#191 - DT, CJ Mosely - gone

#219 - DB, Adrian Ward - gone

 

i just threw up in my mouth

[Randall]

TT's first year. Rodgers, Coston.Poppinga and Collins were OK. Murphy hurt. C+

 

1.24 QB Aaron Rodgers California

2.19 CB Nick Collins Bethune-Cookman

2.26 WR Terrence Murphy Texas A&M

4.14 S Marviel Underwood San Diego State

4.24 DE Brady Poppinga Brigham Young

5.07 C Junius Coston North Carolina A&T

5.31 CB Michael Hawkins Oklahoma

6.06 DT Mike Montgomery Texas A&M

6.21 WR Craig Bragg UCLA

7.31 S Kurt Campbell Albany

7.32 OG Will Whitticker Michigan State

[Big John]

Bills didn't have a first rounder...

 

Round 2, pick 23, # 55 - Roscoe Parrish Bills WR Miami (FL)

Round 3, pick 22, # 86 - Kevin Everett Bills TE Miami (FL)

Round 4, pick 21, # 122 - Duke Preston Bills C Illinois

Round 5, pick 20, # 156 - Eric King Bills DB Wake Forest

Round 6, pick 23, # 197 - Justin Geisinger Bills G Vanderbilt

Round 7, pick 22, # - 236 - Lionel Gates Bills RB Louisville

 

 

Only 2 are still with the team.

And one of those will need to retire

[i_am_the_swammi]

31 Mike Patterson Eagles DT USC -- starter, verge of All-Pro

63 Matt McCoy Eagles LB San Diego State -- starter

77 Ryan Moats Eagles RB Louisiana Tech --back

102 Sean Considine Eagles DB Iowa --starter

126 Todd Herremans Eagles T Saginaw Valley State -- starter

146 Trent Cole Eagles LB Cincinnati --All-Pro starter

172 Scott Young Eagles G Brigham Young --gone

 

 

Seeing how the Eagles always get blasted for their draft accument, I'd have to rate this an A...Cole in the 6th round? 5 of their first 6 picks have/are starters....solid A here.

[policyvote]

Detroit Lions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow. This stings. Jiminy freaking Christmas, two or three of these guys should be starting by now . . . Cody is the best one of the lot, and we just drafted Flu as his replacement. Disgusting.

 

Peace

policy

[loaf]

Cleveland

1.03 WR Braylon Edwards Michigan

2.02 S Brodney Pool Oklahoma

3.03 QB Charlie Frye Akron

4.02 CB Antonio Perkins Oklahoma

5.03 DE David McMillan Kansas

6.02 OLB Nick Speegle New Mexico

6.29 DT Andrew Hoffman Virginia

7.03 OT Jon Dunn Virginia Tech

[Footballjoe]

Redskins

 

1.09 CB Carlos Rogers -

1.25 QB Jason Campbell -

4.19 FB Manuel White Jr - gone

5.18 ILB Robert McCune - gone

6.09 OLB Jared Newberry - gone

7.08 FB Nehemiah Broughton - not sure of his status, either on practice squa or injured. May even be gone now

 

Hit home runs the first round but after that we struck out.

Edited May 3, 2008 by Footballjoe

[Tford]

1.27 WR Roddy White Alabama-Birmingham

2.27 DT Jonathan Babineaux Iowa

3.26 OLB Jordan Beck Cal Poly

4.27 DE Chauncey Davis Florida State

5.24 OLB Michael Boley Southern Mississippi

5.27 OT Frank Omiyale Tennessee Tech

6.27 RB Deandra Cobb Michigan State

7.27 DT Darrell Shropshire South Carolina

 

Not great but not bad; could have been worse. Three starters, two high caliber guys.

[BeeR]

Campbell is hardly a HR - jury still out though.

[Perchoutofwater]

Dallas gets an A++ it could very well be the best draft that they ever had.

 

Round 1 Pick 11 Demarcus Ware Pro Bowl OLB

Round 1 Pick 20 Marcus Spears Starting LE

Round 2 Pick 10 Kevin Burnett ILB he is a contributor who missed most of his first year with an injury prior to the draft. Will probably play mostly on running downs where as Zach Thomas will probably play on passing downs this year.

Round 4 Pick 8 Marion Barber Pro Bowl RB

Round 4 Pick 31 Chris Canty Starting RE

Round 6 Pick 34 Justin Beriault DB the only player drafted in 2005 that has never started a game for the Cowboys.

Round 6 Pick 35 Rob Petitti Started 16 games for the Cowboys before being cut

Round 7 Pick 10 Jay Ratliff DE/DT Started all but two games last year at nose tackle.

Edited May 3, 2008 by Perchoutofwater

[Seahawks21]

Seahawks---pretty Blah as usual---B-

 

Round 1--Chris Spencer----very average center. Starter, but poor first round value

Round 2--Lofa ----no matter what else happened, trading up for him alone gives them at least a B- for the draft

Rest of the rounds----Nobody else I have even ever heard of before. Absolutely pathetic.

[Randall]

Dallas gets an A++ it could very well be the best draft that they ever had.

 

Round 1 Pick 11 Demarcus Ware Pro Bowl OLB

Round 1 Pick 20 Marcus Spears Starting LE

Round 2 Pick 10 Kevin Burnett ILB he is a contributor who missed most of his first year with an injury prior to the draft. Will probably play mostly on running downs where as Zach Thomas will probably play on passing downs this year.

Round 4 Pick 8 Marion Barber Pro Bowl RB

Round 4 Pick 31 Chris Canty Starting RE

Round 6 Pick 34 Justin Beriault DB the only player drafted in 2005 that has never started a game for the Cowboys.

Round 6 Pick 35 Rob Petitti Started 16 games for the Cowboys before being cut

Round 7 Pick 10 Started all but two games last year.

 

 

That is a good draft. 73, 74 and 89 were good too.

[Randall]

Off topic but these are probably my two favorites

 

1965 - Chicago Bears

Rd Sel # Player Position School

1 Dick Butkus LB Illinois

1 Gale Sayers RB Kansas

7 Dick Gordon WR Michigan State

8 Brian Schweda DE Kansas

10 Dennis Murphy DT Florida

11 Frank Cornish DT Grambling State

14 Dave Pivec TE Notre Dame

20 Ralph Kurek RB Wisconsin

 

1974 - Pittsburgh Steelers

Rd Sel # Player Position School

1 21 Lynn Swann WR USC

2 46 Jack Lambert LB Kent State

4 82 John Stallworth WR Alabama A&M

4 100 Jimmy Allen DB UCLA

5 125 Mike Webster C Wisconsin

6 149 Jim Wolf DE Prairie View A&M

6 150 Rich Druschel T North Carolina State

7 165 Allen Sitterle -- North Carolina State

7 179 Scott Garske -- Eastern Washington

8 204 Mark Gefert -- Purdue

 

there were more rounds but I stopped it there.