muck Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 A friend of mine is hosting a conference for his clients on international investing and wants to have a 'beer tasting' with beers from around the world. He doesn't know anything about beers. I don't know much either. Two questions: 1) Suggest 6-10 beers from around the world. 2) Suggest a place to buy them and get them shipped to KC (if they're not already here). Danke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 (edited) 1) franziskaner dunkel- germany boddington cream ale- england hoegaarden wit- belgium duchess di bourgogne- belgium; or delerium tremens- belgium; or gulden draak- belgium an irish stout stone ipa- usa 2) beverages and more (bevmo) edit: so hard to choose 6-10. want to capture the characteristics a country, but some have a wide range of method specific biers. Edited May 17, 2008 by Bier Meister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 1) franziskaner dunkel- germany hmmm, I think if you want to capture German beers, you have to go with a pilsener. (It's not my favorite, but that is what all of the Germans I go drinking with always get--and I just checked and about 2/3 of the German beer market is for pilseners.) (Another plus to having a pilsener is that if there are novice beer-tasters there it will give them something that seems familiar and approachable.) Just a thought. Besides, if you want to go with a dunkel, you should go with the Paulaner. :oldrazz to bier: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 hmmm, I think if you want to capture German beers, you have to go with a pilsener. (It's not my favorite, but that is what all of the Germans I go drinking with always get--and I just checked and about 2/3 of the German beer market is for pilseners.) (Another plus to having a pilsener is that if there are novice beer-tasters there it will give them something that seems familiar and approachable.) Just a thought. Besides, if you want to go with a dunkel, you should go with the Paulaner. :oldrazz to bier: several things come to mind for me when it comes to german bier: 1st for me is what is uniquely german? i think if they want to try a pils, they would be fine with a czech bier. 2) not many breweries outside of germany capture what germany does to wheat bier.... i just went a step further to dunkel. 3) i like paulaner quite a bit, but don't see their dunkel anywhere... so i think the best available here is franzisker (which is similar) have several for me...might be a while until i get back to germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Corsendonk or Orval Trappist are nice intros to Belgian beer. Delerium Tremens is fraking awesome but it may be too much for novice folk. Stella Artois is a nice easy drinking Belgian pilsner. Spaten, Dinkel Acker, Paulaner and a host of others make fine German pilsners. Boddington is nice for British ales as it's available in the nitrogen loaded cans. If you get a stout, try and get Murphy's or Young's or Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout rather than Guiness. Guiness is atypical of the style. Old Tadcaster is a nice hearty ale a touch on the dark side. Kirin Ichiban is the boldest of the Japanese beers. Sapporo is more traditional but much more like American beers. Tsing Tao is the best Chinese beer I've found and Singha is a very good Thai beer. If they get humor, you can serve them Red Stripe as the Jamacian entry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Delerium Tremens is nice. I don't like Stella. Chimay is pretty safe for a Belgian ale. Guiness would be a standard for Irish stouts (but there are better stouts). Young's Double Chocolate Stout from England for one. Newcastle Brown is a pretty safe English ale and readily available. If you want to round out Britain, Traquair House Ale is a nice Scottish ale. The ommegang brewery in new york puts out several nice belgian style ales. From the US, I have been on a dogfish head jones of late. It's unlikely that you'll find it but Dogfish Head Immort Ale, but it is one of my favorites. If anyone can find this, I would be willing to pay for it and shipping, and a finder's fee. It's a seasonal and hard to get but very worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 The only problem with Newcastle Brown Ale is that it has been very inconsistent over the years. Traquair House is a nice Scottish Ale and supposedly from the oldest operating brewery in the world. Be warned though, it is not a Wee Heavy. If you want one of those, try MacEwans Scottish Ale. I'll give a look for the Dogfish Head Immort (Import?) Ale. We get most of their stuff around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 The only problem with Newcastle Brown Ale is that it has been very inconsistent over the years. Traquair House is a nice Scottish Ale and supposedly from the oldest operating brewery in the world. Be warned though, it is not a Wee Heavy. If you want one of those, try MacEwans Scottish Ale. I'll give a look for the Dogfish Head Immort (Import?) Ale. We get most of their stuff around here. It is definitely Immort Ale. I've got my brother looking in North Carolina. Regarding Newcastle, I figured for people who may drink lighter and less flavorful beers (e.g., bud, miller, etc), Newcastle would be a relatively safe introduction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 (edited) - a german hefe, dunkel, marzen and/or dopplebock - at least one of the main belgian styles, preferably up to 3: dubbel, tripel, wit, quadrupel - irish stout - english brown ale - american craft IPA (maybe next to an old english style (less hoppy) IPA) really I think that covers the great, unique regional beer styles. you could limit to one from belgium and germany and work in some other countries, but honestly most beers from different countries have very little from an actual taste standpoint to identify them with the country where they are brewed. a lager from china, next to a lager from mexico, next to a pilsner from holland....one may be slightly better than the other, but there is nothing there to identify the beer with where it's from. as far as specific recommendations... 1) aventinus -- delicious beer from germany that covers several quintessential german bases at the same time (weizen, dopplebock) - if you can't find this one, you could go with one dopplebock (ayinger/celebrator, paulanor/salvator, spaten/optimator) and one hefe or dunkel (franziskaner, paulaner, weihenstephaner, hacker pschorr) 2) paulaner oktoberfest/marzen 3) chimay red (dubel), white (tripel) and blue (quad) -- readily available, and good representatives of belgian trappist brewing 4) murphy's stout (since guiness is so ubiquitous) 5) samuel smith's nut brown ale (newcastle would be alright as well) 6) young's special london ale, or fuller's IPA 7) stone IPA, or dogfish head 90 minute IPA wildcards you could throw in: negra modelo, a very nice beer if you want something from mexico. moretti rossa, a nice dopplebock from italy, instead of a german DB. pilsener urquell, the first pils, from the czech repub. hoegaarden, absolutely delicious if you want a belgian wit. Edited May 19, 2008 by Azazello1313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 hmmm, I think if you want to capture German beers, you have to go with a pilsener. (It's not my favorite, but that is what all of the Germans I go drinking with always get--and I just checked and about 2/3 of the German beer market is for pilseners.) (Another plus to having a pilsener is that if there are novice beer-tasters there it will give them something that seems familiar and approachable.) Just a thought. that is like saying "pommes frites" are the epitome of french cuisine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Delerium Tremens is nice. I don't like Stella. Chimay is pretty safe for a Belgian ale. Guiness would be a standard for Irish stouts (but there are better stouts). Young's Double Chocolate Stout from England for one. Newcastle Brown is a pretty safe English ale and readily available. If you want to round out Britain, Traquair House Ale is a nice Scottish ale. +1 I don't like Stella. You can get lost in the world of Belgian ales. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I love me some Newcastle. I haven't met many British and Irish beers that I don't like. Tons of flavor and body. Yum. If you're looking for a Caribbean beer, give Hatuey a try if you can find it. I know it's brewed in the States now instead of Cuba, but that's not the beer's fault. It's a great summer beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 that is like saying "pommes frites" are the epitome of french cuisine. point taken also, invite me over the next time you do a beer tasting--your recommendations above looked great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 point taken also, invite me over the next time you do a beer tasting--your recommendations above looked great you, my friend, are welcome any day of the week, consider the invitation given. I even have an extra crib mattress you could sleep on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 (edited) I even have an extra crib mattress you could sleep on. no need for that (I have my own mattress that I generally take with me as it fits nicely in my carry-on luggage) Edited May 20, 2008 by wiegie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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