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And with the 9th pick, YOU take


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  1. 1. If you are picking 9th (or 8th or 10th for that matter)

    • QB - Tom Brady to get an elite QB
      24
    • QB - Peyton Manning to get an elite QB
      5
    • RB - Larry Johnson who has fallen
      21
    • RB - Willis McGahee doesn't share much
      19
    • RB - Reggie Bush who catches a lot
      9
    • RB - Ryan Grant as surprise in GB
      14
    • WR Randy Moss to start WR
      18
    • WR Terrell Owens as a different elite WR
      1
    • Other
      4


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Each year, IMO, drafting 9th is probably the most challenging since you are well into the run on RB but not deep enough to double dip very well with your second pick. It all depends on who you take of course but at this early juncture, I just wondered what most of you would do at that spot. I am drafting in an hour at that pick and I already know what I am going to do but am interested in seeing how diverse people are at that spot.

 

Standard performance with Point Per Reception.

 

Assuming this has happened before you:

 

Ladainian Tomlinson

Adrian Peterson

Steven Jackson

Brian Westbrook

Joseph Addai

Frank Gore

Clinton Portis

Marshawn Lynch

 

You have to know that the six picks after you will get at least 3 RB and maybe as many as 5. But top 1 or 2 QB and WR probably gone when it gets back to you.

 

Just seems like an interesting place in a draft this year (and most any year). Again - not looking for any help, just a FF question that we all will probably face in one league or so this year.

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Marion Barber finished 7th overall amongst RBs last year in a standard 1 PPR league. I don't think Felix Jones should scare anymore that much. I probably don't take him here but I think he should be in the mix.

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I can tell you in this particular draft, I know the tendencies of these people. I pretty much HAVE to take a RB in the first. While it may seem unusual. this crowd does NOT like QBs much and the scoring supports it to some degree. But this is a situation in every draft that someone has to decide on and it really impacts what else you are going to do in the next three or four rounds.

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I've done a few actual drafts and I can tell you Brady will NOT last into the 2nd. I also had the 1.9 pick (twice) and ended up with Brady/Gore respectively. The Gore pick at 1.9 was a huge surprise as Brady AND Manning both went 1.7/1.8, allowing me to get a stud late.

 

The fall off after the first 6 RB's is such a huge gap, that I would not hesitate in taking a QB at 1.9 this year. You can come around and more than likely grab Grant with the 2.4 and be on your way.

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I'd take Moss and hope to start a WR / QB run enough that Willis McGahee is there in the second. It would probably work with the knuckleheads in my local as they get trigger happy with QBs, but who knows? On a separate note...Gore in the 6th? Am I missing something? I wasted a 1.5 pick on him last year and I guess I figured he would drop quite a bit. Hmm.... Guess I'll have to do some more reading.

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Moss will not repeat last year or even come close. I think he will catch about 11 - 13 Tds this season.

 

I wouldn't take Brady with the 9th over all as well. I just don't see NE playing at that level this season.

 

I don't see LJ doing too much this season but may be a solid #2 RB

 

Ryan Grant will not have Favre keeping the D honest this year but still, he is a wild card.

 

I'd go willis McGahee, he doesn't share and should get a respectable stat line. Maybe 1400 10 Tds. Dunno, this is a tough one.

 

QB - Tom Brady to get an elite QB

QB - Peyton Manning to get an elite QB

RB - Larry Johnson who has fallen

RB - Willis McGahee doesn't share much

RB - Reggie Bush who catches a lot

RB - Ryan Grant as surprise in GB

WR Randy Moss to start WR

WR Terrell Owens as a different elite WR

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Okay, let's toss out a few options. 1.09 is too early to go QB in anything other than a start 2 QB league. Brady & Manning are out. Not nearly enough value there.

 

Is the scoring system equal ppr for all players, with significant value on the ppr? Bush & Moss are the obvious options. While Moss probably won't get near the record pace he set last year, with his being Brady's obvious #1 WR and being apparently happy as a front runner on a winning team, he's the top WR in the draft. It would be appropriate value-wise to draft him at what figures to be the #8/#9 RB spot. Bush is a good option in the full ppr format because of the rush/receiving combination going with what would seem to be a lot of catches.

 

Minimal to no ppr systems? Lynch would be the best option. I think Grant would be the better choice, but there is a caveat that you can probably catch him on the backside of the corner. BUF's O has some limit on its upside, while GB is likely to put up some very good O numbers. Grant may get some additonal attention with the coaching staff trying to reduce the pressure on Rodgers a bit also. While there is greater risk with Grant than Lynch because of the additonal RBs in GB who seem closer to NFL caliber, he sure proved his worth in the second half of last season and could very well put up similar numbers in the coming year, which would put him into top 5 RB catagory. If you don't have much tolerance for risk and you don't mind giving a little upside for that, Lynch is your guy. Grant's ADP says wait on him, unless you know that a leaguemate will jump on him before you come up in the 2nd round. Then you've got a tough choice.

 

Larry Johnson looks to be in a bad spot this year. the KC O line still has issues, the D has issues as well - especially tradng away its best player by far, and its passing game scares absolutely no one. LJ may come back completely healthy, but he's going to face a tremendous amount of congestion in the box, and the O doesn't figure to get as many snaps as most other teams. While he has proven himself to be a bonafide stud when healthy, his situation just doesn't look conducive to his putting up the potential numbers that Lynch and/or Grant will.

 

McGahee? He spooks me. I think Ray Rice is the real deal, and he could take a lot of Mcgahee's work by midseason. Hell, he may even take McGahee's job.

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Okay, let's toss out a few options. 1.09 is too early to go QB in anything other than a start 2 QB league. Brady & Manning are out. Not nearly enough value there.

 

Is the scoring system equal ppr for all players, with significant value on the ppr? Bush & Moss are the obvious options. While Moss probably won't get near the record pace he set last year, with his being Brady's obvious #1 WR and being apparently happy as a front runner on a winning team, he's the top WR in the draft. It would be appropriate value-wise to draft him at what figures to be the #8/#9 RB spot. Bush is a good option in the full ppr format because of the rush/receiving combination going with what would seem to be a lot of catches.

 

Minimal to no ppr systems? Lynch would be the best option. I think Grant would be the better choice, but there is a caveat that you can probably catch him on the backside of the corner. BUF's O has some limit on its upside, while GB is likely to put up some very good O numbers. Grant may get some additonal attention with the coaching staff trying to reduce the pressure on Rodgers a bit also. While there is greater risk with Grant than Lynch because of the additonal RBs in GB who seem closer to NFL caliber, he sure proved his worth in the second half of last season and could very well put up similar numbers in the coming year, which would put him into top 5 RB catagory. If you don't have much tolerance for risk and you don't mind giving a little upside for that, Lynch is your guy. Grant's ADP says wait on him, unless you know that a leaguemate will jump on him before you come up in the 2nd round. Then you've got a tough choice.

 

Larry Johnson looks to be in a bad spot this year. the KC O line still has issues, the D has issues as well - especially tradng away its best player by far, and its passing game scares absolutely no one. LJ may come back completely healthy, but he's going to face a tremendous amount of congestion in the box, and the O doesn't figure to get as many snaps as most other teams. While he has proven himself to be a bonafide stud when healthy, his situation just doesn't look conducive to his putting up the potential numbers that Lynch and/or Grant will.

 

McGahee? He spooks me. I think Ray Rice is the real deal, and he could take a lot of Mcgahee's work by midseason. Hell, he may even take McGahee's job.

 

 

It is assumed Lynch is already off the board...

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It is assumed Lynch is already off the board...

 

I know, but he put in the caveat of the 8th pick in the title, so I took liberties. Plus, I do think we'll see some very early movement of Brady and/or Moss by newbies early in the draft. I'd be perfectly comfortable substituting Westbrook for Lynch if Lynch is gone & Westy is still on the board.

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I think of those listed the choice is between Moss and McGahee.

 

I think Marion Barber and MJD need consideration, but in the end I think Barber is the strong pick.

 

Value is almost always something you can find at QB.

 

WR value has been a little tough to predict, although I think you have chosen 2 of the more likely top performers.

 

Barber and Jones-Drew each have a couple of very good seasons under their belt. I want a guy that I can depend on for production week in and week out. The answer is somewhere in those 4: Moss, McGahee, Barber, Jones-Drew.

 

EDIT TO ADD: Everyone knows you can't afford a first round bust. Ryan Grant, Reggie Bush, and Larry Johnson have a lot of bust potential in their saddle bags IMO.

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McGahee? He spooks me. I think Ray Rice is the real deal, and he could take a lot of Mcgahee's work by midseason. Hell, he may even take McGahee's job.

That and Ogden uncertainty... If Ogden does go ahead and retire, they lose a lot of leadership and talent on the left side... The Ravens are a team in transition... I'm staying away from their entire team.

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That and Ogden uncertainty... If Ogden does go ahead and retire, they lose a lot of leadership and talent on the left side... The Ravens are a team in transition... I'm staying away from their entire team.

 

Very, very good point. That O-line was already struggling with run blocking last year. It doesn't figure to get better any time soon.

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Yuck! What a craptastic place to draft. I'll reach for a remaining RB (McGahee) because you'll be hard pressed to get one for your 2nd pick. In any case, I don't feel good about it...

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Barber and Jones-Drew each have a couple of very good seasons under their belt. I want a guy that I can depend on for production week in and week out.
Then lol @ considering Drew. He was about as reliable as the weatherman.

 

IMO you go Moss and I'd probably nab Brady in the 2d. I think a lot of people who are (reasonably so) expecting a big "regression to the norm" are going to be surprised.

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Then lol @ considering Drew. He was about as reliable as the weatherman.

 

IMO you go Moss and I'd probably nab Brady in the 2d. I think a lot of people who are (reasonably so) expecting a big "regression to the norm" are going to be surprised.

 

 

:wacko:

 

Here are some facts for you. If you are interested in them.

 

MJD started a little slow in 2007. His first 4 weeks were not good, and people were thinking one year wonder and looking to give up on him. Fast forward to week 5:

 

Week 5: 18.70

Week 6: 32.40

Week 7: 14.40

Week 8: 7.20

Week 9: 12.90

Week 10: 20.40

Week 11: 10.20

Week 12: 9.60

Week 13: 12.20

Week 14: 5.50

Week 15: 12.40

Week 16: 23.00

 

Not all of those weeks are stellar, but there are only three of 12 that are single digit scoring games. That's consistency if you ask me.

 

In 2006 Jones-Drew was even better. He still didn't start to score until week 3, but when he did it was worth the wait:

Week 3: 21.50

Week 4: 13.10

Week 5: 17.90

week 7: 16.30

Week 8: 9.20

Week 9: 9.50

Week 10: 14.70

Week 11: 13.10

Week 12: 21.00

Week 13: 10.60

Week 14: 36.60

Week 15: 22.00

Week 16: 32.20

 

That's only 2 weeks out of 13 in single digit scoring. Again, IMO very consistent.

 

I still would probably choose Barber over Jones-Drew, but he is definitely in the discussion as someone that can be depended on to put points up for your fantasy team.

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